Posted on 10/12/2011 12:00:13 PM PDT by greyfoxx39
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It is true that Mormon Beliefs are not exactly the same as Baptists or Catholics.
If they were, they would be Baptists or Catholic.
I use those as two examples because I have seen posted that Baptists also refer to Catholics as a “Cult”.
It is just a way for some to denigrate others.
Have you also seen Catholics referring to Baptists as “heretics?”
I probably have, but there again there were wars fought between Roman Catholics and those from Constantinople over differences in beliefs.
It usually has nothing to do with actual beliefs, but rather who is going to be in charge.
That is still going on today with the liberals.
No, I was saying the exactly opposite
You are anti-semetic in your premise.. it’s like you see the Mormons like us as like bigots considered Jewish persons for many decades in this country and others.
Don’t you see the taint of the same kind of bigotry in your post?
Clearly GreyFox, you are a strong anti-Mormon activist.. I think I have seen you before on these threads.
Have you mormons finally stopped baptizing dead Holocaust victims yet?
You misread my post. Come one GreyFox. I support either Cain or Romney, and I love all men and women equally reguardless of race, religion, etc. I was pointing to you as the anti-semetic in my post, I think you read it differently. So, please don’t get too exicted
You need to change your life.
In fighting for Proposition 8 in California, I encountered many anti-Mormon, Gay activists who did terrible things. You may not be one of them, but you have the same hunger and a biggotry that is like anti-semitism.
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/ldsagree.html
The wrongful baptism of Jewish dead, which disparages the memory of a deceased person is a brazen act which will obscure the historical record for future generations. It has been bitterly opposed by many Jews for a number of years. Others say they will never stop being Jews, simply because there is a paper saying they had been baptized, that the act of posthumous baptism is unimportant and should be ignored. We think this to be a narrow, parochial, and shallow view. We will continue opposing this wrongful act which assimilates our dead to the point where it will not be possible to know who was Jewish in their lifetimes.
A protest drive initiated by Jewish genealogists escalated it to a nationally publicized issue that was followed by public outcry. American Jewish leaders considered it an insult and a major setback for interfaith relations. They initiated discussions with the Mormon Church that culminated in a voluntary 1995 agreement by the Church to remove the inappropriate names. Activists continue to monitor Mormon baptismal lists, seeking removal of inappropriate entries.
Has the church done anything to uphold its decade-old agreement with the Jewish community? The bad news is that the Mormons did (and still do) hijack Jewish genocide victims and other Jewish dead. Moreover, when a Jew is baptized, the door is open for all of his deceased ancestors to be baptized as well. Regrettably, their baptismal records place before the public a revisionist view that these deceased Jews were Mormons, a position they would have rejected in life.
A commentator on this topic said that anti-Semites who desecrate Jewish cemeteries want to destroy even the memory of Jews by breaking their tombstones and other symbols whereby we honor and remember them. He concluded that baptism of the Jewish dead is just a more sophisticated form of breaking tombstones.
A blogger wrote: "I don't buy the argument that it's done for selfless reasons. It's not selflessness, it's arrogance. And especially in light of the Mormon Church's agreement in 1995 to stop baptizing Holocaust victims, it's even more reprehensible for them to continue the practice. If a church can't be trusted to keep its word in a matter such as this, then where is its moral standing?"
We want to say this to all well-meaning Christians: We don't want to be saved, redeemed, forgiven, reincarnated, resurrected, or enraptured. We just want to be left alone. After 2000 years -- is it so much to ask?
In 1995 the LDS Church and representatives of the Jewish community signed the agreement described at the beginning of this article. Jews have objected to the continuing Mormon practice of wrongful baptism of the Jewish dead, especially in the case of Holocaust victims, claiming that the practice mirrored the forced baptism of Jews in the middle ages.
A decade later this wrongful practice, which demonstrates a disrespect for Jews and Jewish feelings, has not ended. Because of public objections, the Church did remove names of thousands of Jewish holocaust victims from the IGI. However, they continue the baptismal ritual that hijacks Jewish forebears. Names of thousands of baptized Jews have not yet been expunged from within the growing Church records while new victims continue to be added. Removed names often reappear at a later date. Their practice of turning dead Jews into Mormons is a brazen act that may obscure the historical record for future generations. One hundred years from now, will anyone know who you were?
The IGI 1 serves as an international baptismal index (entries of all of whom have had their temple work done). Information comes from submissions 2 by their membership, and it is not always accurate. As you search the IGI you may be surprised to find the names of your parents, of your grandparents, and of your great-grandparents, those who have bequeathed to you all you are of body and mind. To begin your IGI search
That’s wonderful. My mother was born a Catholic(Austria) and raised me as a Mormon as she converted little by little over the years.
Now she loves it. The Book of Mormon and the Bible together are a great testament of Jesus Christ. Although persons like Grey Fox are probably not good advisers on such matters. Hopefully I am.
When you can’t rebut the facts, attack the messenger...and I’ll keep posting factual articles regardless of your attacks.
Wow, just wow...
Wow, just wow...
You need to change your life.
In fighting for Proposition 8 in California, I encountered many anti-Mormon, Gay activists who did terrible things. You may not be one of them, but you have the same hunger and a biggotry that is like anti-semitism.
When all else fails, resort to a personal attack with lies and slander.
She needs to change her life? Physician, heal thyself. You're projecting too much.
Really? You're going to come off high and mighty? What was your religion's take on people of color?
(And here I thought Romneybots weren't welcome in promoting Romney around here, per the host's guidelines?)
So you support a pro-abortionist? A pro-socialized healthcare candidate?
Did you know Romney supports allowing homosexual employees to be treated as "minority status" at the state level?
Now we Mormons are like the Jews...
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Well that sure didnt help the Jews much during the 1930-40s when the Mormons were in Germany helping Hitler perscecute and murder them...
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Ya know there was a time Mormons murdered Christians also...
Now they want to be like the Christians...
Now we Mormons are like the Jews...
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Yeah so I’ve heard...
Here’s one of the new and improved “Jewish Mormons”...
Glenn Beck, the Jewish Mormon Out to Change the World With His Mormon Centered Truths
Ed Decker
September 2011
Ever since Glenn Beck stepped out from the daily limelight on FOX TV and stopped stunning the world with his amazing insights regarding often hidden secrets of our national history and the underside of our political process; as well as his constant and ever-increasing call to challenge the hidden spiritual depths of the American Christian mindset, I have been waiting for the proverbial “other shoe” to drop. It dropped when he turned his attention to Israel. His trip there was not a casually planned event. It had a purpose that will shock you.
First, understand that I have written and described the Glenn Beck/ Mitt Romney/ Every Mormon Priesthood holder’s belief that the Constitution is as sacred as scripture and that the USA is the place where the Garden of Eden was, where Christ visited after his resurrection and where He will return.
This return of Christ will take place after the Constitution and government “hangs by a thread” and is saved by the elders of the Mormon Church. Then, the country will become a theocracy and after His temple is built in Missouri, Christ will return to reign for a thousand years. However, He will let the LDS Prophet and Brethren officiate over his earthly Kingdom of God.
For the details, send for your free copy of the report, The Mormon Plan for America and the Rise of Mitt Romney at ed@saintsalive.com
As an aside, Mormon leaders taught in the past that upon Christ’s coming to His temple, the Ten Lost tribes will then march from their isolation behind the North Pole and come to the new temple and begin their own temple work. That theory died quietly when Airplanes began flying over the north pole and found no hidden paradise teeming with Jews.
Now, having said all that, I need to share “the rest of the story.” Hidden away from the general public, is a secret that Glenn Beck has not dared share with his vast audiences.
It is a secret that reveals the reason Beck feels even more obligated to usher in his new spiritual world view to the Jews than he has been to bring the light of his new spiritual awakening to post-Christian America. The secret is that Glenn Beck is a Jew. Not just any Jew.
You see, Glenn Beck not only became a new Mormon when he was water baptized and had hands laid on his head for the “Gift of the Holy (Mormon) Ghost.” His ‘gentile’ blood was supernaturally and wholly changed during that process to pure and unadulterated Jewish blood.
That’s right. In an actual, holy, metaphysical miracle, without a single IV present, his blood and lineage was forever changed. He would later find out, during a prophetic blessing, that he was a Jew of the house of Ephriam.
In one of the most hidden, bizarre and rarely discussed Mormon doctrines, Mormons believe that they are the true Israel, not the Jews in Israel; that their blood is changed from gentile to Jewish blood at baptismal immersion. Beck was just visiting what he considers his ‘birthright.’ The Jews are interlopers as far as he and the LDS Church believes. In Utah, called Zion by the faithful in word and in hymns of the church, non-Mormons are openly called “Gentiles.”
In my own case, after I was converted to the church at age 20 and when I went into the waters of baptism and immediately after, as I had priesthood hands laid upon me to “Receive the Holy Ghost”, my “gentile” blood was literally and supernaturally changed to pure Jewish blood. I learned that later in my new church, I would be told during another once-in-a-lifetime blessing, the tribe in which I was now a blood member.
When I became a ‘worthy’ member, I personally received my “patriarchal blessing” was told that I was of the Israel house of Ephriam. Strange, I thought at the time, since I already was a Jew was born in the Levitical line. I was further perplexed that somehow, God changed my Jewish blood of the Levitical line to that of a lesser bloodline; that of a pompous slacker, Ephriam. When I tried to get an explanation from my Bishop, I was sharply rebuked and warned against looking into “the Mysteries.”
Now, understanding the Hand of the Mormon god upon his true Chosen people, the Mormons, the real Jews, you can see the profound importance of Beck’s trip to Israel, to set in place the spiritual foundation for the Mormons to take possession of their prophesied, self-ordained birthright, the Holy land of God.
Using his LDS Priesthood powers of authority, with Christ’s own Melchizedek priesthood and the “Powers and Principalities” sealed on him the Mormon Temple Ritual, he was there to pray in the demons of Mormonism to begin to pry open the spiritual doors for the Mormon take-over.
The saddest part of this fool’s errand was that supposedly godly Christian leaders like Dr. Mike Evans and John Hagee stood at his side, not having a clue that they were praying to a demonic spirit. God have mercy in them. The blind leading the blind into a ditch.
Beck wasn’t there by accident. He was there to begin the spiritual preparation for the return of Christ to, first, the LDS Temple prepared for His coming, in Missouri and then to the LDS Temple, actually the Jewish 3rd temple, in Jerusalem.
Wikipedia notes that:
Latter Day Saints believe that the Jews will build the Third Temple and after the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, the Jews will accept Jesus as the Messiah and most Jews will convert to Mormonism. T
Then, it is believed, the Third Temple will become an LDS Temple and will be one of the two most important LDS Temples along with the New Jerusalem Temple that it is believed will be constructed on the Temple Lot in Independence, Missouri, United States.
One of our friends, Mick, emailed me today and asked, “Does this not sound like a connection to the second half of the Tribulation Period when the Temple is taken over by the Anti-Christ and all are forced to worship him and saying that he is God or possibly Jesus Christ.”
If you need to study this further and check things out in Mormon documents, I include a quick few of them for you. Want to look even deeper? Google Mormon Jewish Blood and count the pages of references.
The late LDS Apostle and doctrinal teacher, Bruce R. McConkie explained:
But if someone whose blood was wholly of Gentile lineage were converted, he would be adopted into the lineage of Abraham and Jacob and become the house of Israel. (Abraham 2:9-11.) That this action involves a literal change in the convert’s blood was plainly taught by the Prophet [Joseph Smith] . . . “while the effect of the Holy Ghost upon a Gentile, is to purge out the old blood, and make him actually of the seed of Abraham. . . .” (Teachings of the prophet Joseph Smith, 149-150) (Mormon Doctrine, 390), (Journal of Discourses, 2:268)
“[A]s the Holy Ghost falls upon one of the literal seed of Abraham, it is calm and serene… while the effect of the Holy Ghost upon a Gentile, is to purge out the old blood, and make him actually of the seed of Abraham. That man that has none of the blood of Abraham (naturally) must have a new creation by the Holy Ghost. In such a case, there may be more of a powerful effect upon the body, and visible to the eye, than upon an Israelite.” - Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr., History of the Church, v. 3, p. 380
“[Joseph taught] that the Gentile blood was actually cleansed out of their veins, and the blood of Jacob made to circulate in them; and the revolution and change in the system were so great that it caused the beholder to think they were going into fits.”
- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 2, p. 269.
“This first Comforter… has no other effect than pure intelligence. It is more powerful in expanding the mind… of a man who is of the literal seed of Abraham, than one that is a Gentile…as the Holy Ghost falls upon one of the literal seed of Abraham, it is calm and serene…while the effect of the Holy Ghost upon a Gentile, is to purge out the old blood...” Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 149-50
Contact Ed Decker at ed@saintsalive.com
Advertising by the LDS is nothing new although, in the past, I recall it's usually in the form of "we'll send you a Book of Mormon" if you call.
Romney team consulted with LDS leaders [Oct. 19, 2006]-_________________________________________________
Of course he did...
He had to have their permission to run for POTUS
Even if a mormon wants to enlist in the US armed forces they have to run it by the mormon leaders first...
Of course she has but what a coincidence that all of a sudden, there is a deluge of mormon commercials to try to convince people that mormons are normal when a candidate, who happens to be morman, is running.
Why start now? Those commercials you speak of have not been on any channel I watch for decades.
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