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[CBS] DOJ: No 3rd gun in "Fast and Furious" murder
CBS News ^ | 18 October, 2011 | Sharyl Attkisson

Posted on 10/18/2011 10:37:33 AM PDT by brityank

DOJ: No 3rd gun in "Fast and Furious" murder

By Sharyl Attkisson

The Justice Department released a new statement Monday night regarding evidence in the murder of a Border Patrol Agent connected to the Fast and Furious scandal. The statement said "reports of a third gun recovered from the perpetrators at the scene ... are false."

Two assault rifles from ATF's Fast and Furious case were found at the murder scene of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry last December. Reports of a possible missing weapon surfaced after a ballistics report found neither rifle conclusively matched to the bullet that killed Terry; an indictment said at least one suspect had escaped; and the lead ATF Fast and Furious case agent was secretly recorded discussing a "third weapon."


Also, on Face the Nation Sunday, Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) told Bob Schieffer that "agents who were at Brian Terry's funeral made statements to his mother indicating that there were three weapons" and raised questions about an FBI ballistics report. "Was there a third weapon at the scene? Were there additional people who escaped with weapons?" Issa said.

In response, the Justice Department statement says: "Prior to his appearance on CBS this past Sunday, Chairman Issa's staff was informed that there were two - not three - guns recovered from the perpetrators at the scene of Agent Terry's murder." The statement said because the prosecution for the murder of Terry is ongoing, "further public comment is inappropriate."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; castaway; cia; clinton; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; hillary; hillaryclinton; holder; ice; obama; statedept
Sorry, Holder et al -- Issa raised a valid question.
That they have a recording of the lead case ATF agent discussing a third weapon (an SKS rifle) that was not one of the Terry AK's sold from that gun shop, and the ticket numbers have the first ticket unexplained in their original (redacted) document dump ...

One 'excuse' that I heard was the #1 referred to the Blood Vial drawn from Terry as part of the investigation. I'm pretty sure the physical evidence would have been collected before any biological, so that doesn't make sense.

1 posted on 10/18/2011 10:37:42 AM PDT by brityank
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To: thouworm; Interesting Times; MestaMachine; Joe Brower; Travis McGee; Nachum; marktwain; deks

Ping for more from Sharyl Attkisson at CBS.


2 posted on 10/18/2011 10:38:51 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; Josephat; Prince of Space; ...

I bet you never thought this would get so “fast and furious”, did ya? Welllll....
You were wrong.


3 posted on 10/18/2011 10:51:05 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: brityank

Issa can’t go chasing after ‘the strange’ or anomalies. It’s too easy for dems to set those up. He needs to go fishing - ask a lot of questions - shake the tree...


4 posted on 10/18/2011 10:58:32 AM PDT by GOPJ (OWS - a scam to shift blame for unemployment and misery away from Obama and dems..)
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To: MestaMachine

To be honest I never would have believed that CBS would be the front runner in getting the details out to the sheeple, as I lived through the Rather debacle.

It does appear that there is a strong opposition of the two Washington cabals - Clinton’s and Obama’s - and each trying to take the other down. With any luck we’ll see them both fatally damage each other!


5 posted on 10/18/2011 11:09:55 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank

So I pray...amd pray...and pray...


6 posted on 10/18/2011 11:13:24 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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7 posted on 10/18/2011 11:14:03 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
8 posted on 10/18/2011 11:18:53 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: GOPJ

Good point.
For example: while I realize the media video of seized weapons is not dispositive, has anyone noticed the disproportionate number of AKs, RPGs, and other former Eastern Bloc weapons, now in wide use in the ME, shown on the news?

What are the chances these are battlefield pick-ups brought back by any of numerous government agencies and sent across our Southern border? No, they would not serve to undermine the Second Amendment by suggesting the weapons came directly from the U.S. as the original programs did, but they would aid the Narcos and further destabilize Mexico.


9 posted on 10/18/2011 11:25:35 AM PDT by Res Nullius (Sometimes you have to kill a chicken to teach the monkey a lesson)
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To: brityank

Well I figured they would be satisfied with just one...Thats all it took I suppose...

These investigators quibling over two or more guns found at a scene like this is hampering the conclusion to this investigation...

Oops, I guess I let that cat out of the bag.../sarc


10 posted on 10/18/2011 1:06:23 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: brityank
Interestingly, the guy who found the rifle in the Texas School Book Depository supposedly used to assassinate President Kennedy later said on tape that the gun he turned in was not the 6.5 Italian Carcano at all, but a German 8mm Mauser! He added that he had NO IDEA where the Dallas Police came up with the other rifle, or what they did with the one he turned in.
11 posted on 10/18/2011 1:59:10 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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... has anyone noticed the disproportionate number of AKs, RPGs, and other former Eastern Bloc weapons, now in wide use in the ME, shown on the news?

What are the chances these are battlefield pick-ups brought back by any of numerous government agencies and sent across our Southern border?

No, they would not serve to undermine the Second Amendment by suggesting the weapons came directly from the U.S. as the original programs did, but they would aid the Narcos and further destabilize Mexico.

Eastern Bloc weapons in Mexico? The ME? More details... Thanks for sharing.

12 posted on 10/18/2011 6:58:33 PM PDT by GOPJ (OWS - a scam to shift blame for unemployment and misery away from Obama and dems..)
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To: 2harddrive

Interresting.


13 posted on 10/18/2011 7:49:13 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Res Nullius
I don't think it has anything to do with gun control. Gun control works against democrats. That's the last thing dems want brought up in an election year.

Also there were too many agencies involved. Major agencies. The cover reason - 'we want to weaken the 2nd' wouldn't fly with the groups involved... Top people had to be told something... ATF ground level people had no idea about the whats and whys of the program. That's odd.

Someone benefited. Or was going to... Someone with power. This is not a minor effort. Was there profit with cash? Political power? "You scratch my back... " Could be anything. The MSM media ( the unthinking parts) are all to ready to agree it was done for 'gun control'.. This could get interesting.

14 posted on 10/18/2011 7:54:02 PM PDT by GOPJ (OWS - a scam to shift blame for unemployment and misery away from Obama and dems..)
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To: brityank
Sorry, Holder et al -- Issa raised a valid question. That they have a recording of the lead case ATF agent discussing a third weapon (an SKS rifle) that was not one of the Terry AK's sold from that gun shop, and the ticket numbers have the first ticket unexplained in their original (redacted) document dump ...

Perhaps it was the same magic rifle

15 posted on 10/24/2011 4:42:57 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: brityank
Sorry, Holder et al -- Issa raised a valid question. That they have a recording of the lead case ATF agent discussing a third weapon (an SKS rifle) that was not one of the Terry AK's sold from that gun shop, and the ticket numbers have the first ticket unexplained in their original (redacted) document dump ...

Perhaps it was the same magic rifle used in the Henry Marshal shooting in 1961....

16 posted on 10/24/2011 4:43:19 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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