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Azimuth Poll - Texas Primary (Cain 33%, Perry 18%, Romney 7%)
Azimuth Polling ^ | 10/19/11 | admin

Posted on 10/19/2011 2:23:04 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009

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To: Ingtar; napscoordinator

“this is from July 15”

Wrong.

Poll Date: 10/12-10/17, 2011


51 posted on 10/19/2011 3:17:26 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion (Heartless)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

WOW. Perry has lost TEXAS? Insane in the Cainbrane.


52 posted on 10/19/2011 3:17:50 PM PDT by montag813
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To: South40

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHA!


53 posted on 10/19/2011 3:19:05 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: napscoordinator
Thank you Naps! I love this country and I love FR. I use one to defend the other.

Perry is a fraud. And I take solace knowing I do all I can do, little as it may be, to prevent him from ever occupying our White House.

Thanks again, FRiend. :-)

54 posted on 10/19/2011 3:24:11 PM PDT by South40 ('Heartless' since 1957)
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To: avacado
Because us Texans know Perry to be a RINO.

So they keep electing Perry? That doesn't add up. Posts # 30 has a far more logical theory. This is a fraud poll from disreputable people. Cain has done nothing campaign wise to show me that he deserves such a huge lead there.

55 posted on 10/19/2011 3:31:07 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Netizen

The polling guy admits they polled at a time when they got ‘too many people’ at home.

What time is that?

I would guess that would be working hours when the rest of us are working.

And who are the people home then? The people who are not working.

Liberals in Texas hate Perry almost as much as the Cain posters.

But to say he’s not popular in Texas is ridiculous. He’s never lost an election here and he won governor easily over someone who was considered a formidable candidate—Kaye Bailey Hutchison.


56 posted on 10/19/2011 3:33:34 PM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: Lakeshark

The only winner last night was the DNC and Obama. It started out as a dog pile on Herman Cain, and then Gov. Perry started tearing at Gov. Romney which started a pretty good feud. It appeared that Gov. Perry was trying to salvage his floundering campaign by being fiesty, but I doubt whether it won him many converts. There were too many people egging him on saying it was do or die time. The one who was damaged the least was Newt because he tried to stay above the fray and no one went after him because he is not a major player. If our candidates keep it up Obama will be looking at a second term.


57 posted on 10/19/2011 3:34:53 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Thanks for the link Norm!

Romney supporters Rudy Giuliani supporters and open borders advocates. Wow. I guess 'conservative' has a different meaning to some.

58 posted on 10/19/2011 3:35:14 PM PDT by South40 ('Heartless' since 1957)
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To: Lazlo in PA

“So they keep electing Perry? That doesn’t add up. Posts # 30 has a far more logical theory.”

We don’t keep electing him because we love him. We keep electing him because nobody better is stepping up. In our last election we had kay bailey hutchison and medina, a 9-11 truther nut.

Not much of a choice.

Most Texans’ attitudes toward Perry is, ‘meh.’


59 posted on 10/19/2011 3:38:02 PM PDT by Marie (Cain 9s Have Teeth)
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To: Lazlo in PA

The numbers IMO reflect people’s growing awareness that the GOP is as much the Problem as the Dems. They see Perry, Rightfully so as part of that ‘old way’ of doing politics.

Look at the 10 landslide. That was not about GOP over Dems. It was ‘new blood’ and Conservatism over all of it.

Then with Perry specifically, his fans can discount the ‘heartless’ comment all they want. It was an insult to millions and spoke DIRECTLY to the mindset he holds. As did his disproven Gore lie and his Guardasil BS. In short, Perry thinks he knows ‘better’ and the people ain’t buyin’ what he’s sellin’.

So PO’d about that mentality are they that they are willing to go with the ‘Cain’ they don’t know, than the ‘Perry’ they do.


60 posted on 10/19/2011 3:39:28 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: altura

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61 posted on 10/19/2011 3:39:46 PM PDT by Marie (Cain 9s Have Teeth)
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To: South40

Ouite a few Perry fans outed their true beliefs on that thread. It’s a study in willful denial, twisting the facts, ignoring reality and using the very words, phrases and soundbytes if Liberals.

Everyone on FR needs to read that thread to understand who and what we are dealing with - here on FR and in the ‘Conservative movement as a whole. Because that movement is filled with people exactly like these and that’s why Conservatism remains so fractured.

We need to start an “Out a Lib on FR” campaign and watch how fast they scream “McCarthyism.


62 posted on 10/19/2011 3:45:14 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Yes, Texans keep electing Perry even though they know he is ethically and politically compromised. Why? Because his opposition is even worse.

Simple as that. I’m one of the reluctant voters who has kept him in office. The one bright side to his Presidential run is that maybe we can get him out of Texas.


63 posted on 10/19/2011 3:50:56 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: altura
But to say he’s not popular in Texas is ridiculous. He’s never lost an election here and he won governor easily over someone who was considered a formidable candidate—Kaye Bailey Hutchison.

If you were familiar with Kay Bailey Hutchison, you'd know just how incompetently run her campaign was, and both her and Perry's debating skills are questionable to say the least.

In 2002, Perry had no Republican challenger. In 2006, the closest a Republican came to challenging Perry in the primaries was a secessionist who didn't even crack double digits. Perry went on to face a clown-care of candidates in the general election and ran away with 39% of the vote. In 2010, he faced Hutchison and then a Clinton insider in the general election that he was able to avoid debating. These Presidential primaries are the toughest competetion Perry has ever had and it's clearly showing.
64 posted on 10/19/2011 4:02:35 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: fireman15
The only winner last night was the DNC and Obama. It started out as a dog pile on Herman Cain, and then Gov. Perry started tearing at Gov. Romney which started a pretty good feud. It appeared that Gov. Perry was trying to salvage his floundering campaign by being fiesty, but I doubt whether it won him many converts. There were too many people egging him on saying it was do or die time. The one who was damaged the least was Newt because he tried to stay above the fray and no one went after him because he is not a major player. If our candidates keep it up Obama will be looking at a second term.

This is the best post in this thread, although I think Obama will only win if Romney is the nominee. Anybody else will beat Obama.
65 posted on 10/19/2011 4:03:33 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Norm Lenhart

My piont proven

Napolitano: DHS Authorizing Illegal Aliens to Work in U.S.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2795236/posts


66 posted on 10/19/2011 4:18:11 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: BobL

Thank you for that post. Those harpies here on FR (along with about five odd males) are just beyond over the top with their snide attitudes.


67 posted on 10/19/2011 4:25:33 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: wolfcreek
because you need proof of citizenship to get a TXDL

Really? So most of the players on the Dallas Stars caan't get a Texas DL despite earning millions in the state and owning million dollar homes in the state?

I call BS.

68 posted on 10/19/2011 4:29:35 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Lazlo in PA
"So they keep electing Perry? That doesn't add up."

Texas is a Republican/Conservative state. We either elect a full blown Democrat or the RINO (Perry). It's a matter of limited choice.

69 posted on 10/19/2011 4:41:01 PM PDT by avacado
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To: BarnacleCenturion

The Paul poll was from July 15, per the article. Was it not?


70 posted on 10/19/2011 4:46:38 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: napscoordinator

The comment I quoted was from the July 15 poll showing Paul ahead of Perry and showing their questionable methods. I hope it is true, but I don’t want to see everyone get all excited about what could be just noise and end up all doom and gloom if the next, more reputable poll shows something different.


71 posted on 10/19/2011 4:49:22 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: buccaneer81; wolfcreek
because you need proof of citizenship to get a TXDL

Requirements for All Applicants
All first time applicants for a Texas driver license must:

*Apply in person at a Texas driver license office.
* Present documents that verify your identity.
*Present documents that verify you are a U.S. citizen or have lawful presence.

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/DriverLicense/ApplyforLicense.htm

72 posted on 10/19/2011 4:50:18 PM PDT by South40 ('Heartless' since 1957)
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To: South40
*Present documents that verify you are a U.S. citizen or have lawful presence.

Now, that's more like it.

73 posted on 10/19/2011 4:59:22 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

If we’re going to allow foreigners in this country, i.e., visa and green card holders, it makes sense.


74 posted on 10/19/2011 5:11:56 PM PDT by South40 ('Heartless' since 1957)
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To: South40
If we’re going to allow foreigners in this country, i.e., visa and green card holders, it makes sense.

Absolutely. I lived in Canada for seven years and had a New Brunswick driver's license. I just had to show my visa for proof of residency.

75 posted on 10/19/2011 5:14:46 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: BobL

I was excited to see him come on national stage, I was hoping he’d be the anti-Romney. But two of my very good friends are ultra-conservative Texans and they were dead set against Perry for similar reasons to you.


76 posted on 10/19/2011 5:19:33 PM PDT by Cruising For Freedom
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To: justsaynomore
JSNM - I am giving you the Herman Cain *ping* and *newslink* award! lol

You are awesome! :)

77 posted on 10/19/2011 5:32:43 PM PDT by taraytarah ( Get acquainted with a Proven Leader. HermanCainExpress.com)
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To: Jedidah
his Presidential run is that maybe we can get him out of Texas

It will be "interesting" here to say the least if Perry and Dewhurst both win their elections.

78 posted on 10/19/2011 5:34:16 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Interesting? More like a free-for-all!

Texas politics can be great fun.


79 posted on 10/19/2011 5:39:57 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: taraytarah

You are too kind! LOL!!!


80 posted on 10/19/2011 5:40:42 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: altura

I have no idea when they polled, but the absolute best time to catch people at home is Sunday night.


81 posted on 10/19/2011 5:43:12 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Lakeshark

Don’t be so sure. There’s still a lot of bad blood in Texas over the Perry - Kay Bailey Hutchison race. Rove and the Bushes endorsed Hutchison, but Perry won. It was a bitter race. I voted for Hutchison at the time but now I’m 100% behind Perry. It’s because he’s ours, warts and all, and we have a certain pride for him now.


82 posted on 10/19/2011 6:00:33 PM PDT by independent in tx
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To: Lakeshark

Don’t be so sure. There’s still a lot of bad blood in Texas over the Perry - Kay Bailey Hutchison race. Rove and the Bushes endorsed Hutchison, but Perry won. It was a bitter race. I voted for Hutchison at the time but now I’m 100% behind Perry. It’s because he’s ours, warts and all, and we have a certain pride for him now.


83 posted on 10/19/2011 6:00:51 PM PDT by independent in tx
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To: Netizen

“After listening to Paul for a couple of months, they realized he’s a nutcase.”

They coulda figured that out years ago......


84 posted on 10/19/2011 6:11:01 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Wow! That poll says alot. Obviously the voters of Texas know that their Governor Rick Perry is not presidential timber. The folks at home are telling us to beware of Rick Perry. If you can’t carry your own house how can you carry the nation.Thank you Texas voters for sending a message.


85 posted on 10/19/2011 6:42:58 PM PDT by richmulv
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Wow! That poll says alot. Obviously the voters of Texas know that their Governor Rick Perry is not presidential timber. The folks at home are telling us to beware of Rick Perry. If you can’t carry your own house how can you carry the nation.Thank you Texas voters for sending a message.


86 posted on 10/19/2011 6:45:03 PM PDT by richmulv
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To: Grunthor

Bwahahahaaa!!!

I am SO happy.....


87 posted on 10/19/2011 7:04:20 PM PDT by Politicalmom (I am intrigued and open to the Bush administration’s amnesty proposal. -Rick Perry)
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To: Cruising For Freedom

“I was excited to see him come on national stage, I was hoping he’d be the anti-Romney. But two of my very good friends are ultra-conservative Texans and they were dead set against Perry for similar reasons to you.”

We understand the excitement about Perry...he’s the governor of what is considered the best state-level success story in the country...and he was smart in not thinking that he could run the state economy from his desk.

However, he’s a flake otherwise, and even I have to admit being shocked at all the non-conservative crap he’s been responsible for and has attempted to impose on us (we rarely see much in the news). Hopefully he’s through, and Cain (maybe) will get his voters.


88 posted on 10/19/2011 8:16:21 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: buccaneer81

“Thank you for that post. Those harpies here on FR (along with about five odd males) are just beyond over the top with their snide attitudes.”

Annoying as hell. And they’re back at it again. But it won’t work this time...Cain’s support is rock-solid and it’s going to take more than a Johnny-come-lately energy plan or flat tax plan to make any headway, against us ‘heartless’ people.


89 posted on 10/19/2011 8:20:18 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: Netizen

This Poll has Ron Paul at 19%, above Perry


90 posted on 10/19/2011 9:06:26 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: Ingtar; af_vet_rr; altura; ASA Vet; avacado; BarnacleCenturion; BobL; buccaneer81; ...
>>Not to put a damper on things, but this is from July 15:
>>It is an interesting data point, but don’t get overly enthused by a poll of this type. If some other polls show similar, then we can party!


No way is this TX poll from July. Cain was almost unheard of then.

I had been wondering if the Cain surge seen in many (but not all) recent polls was real.

So I guessed that a ballpark confirmation could be done using this Texas poll, plus the six STATE polls that came this week. One could guess those might represent the country as a whole pretty well, since it included TWO super liberal BLUE states (NH and HI) four battleground purple states ( IA OH FL SC) and one red state (TX)
If anything, the rest of the country might even lean MORE toward Cain as a whole.



I averaged these latest state polls, as follows:

  Sample  Cain  Romney Gingrich Paul Perry Bachman Huntsman Santorum Spread
U.S. COMPOSITE 3449 GOP 30.7 22.2 9.1 8.5 7.7 5.2 2.0 unknown Cain +8.5
TX 844 GOP 33 7 5 19 18 1 3 1 Cain +14
OH 500 GOP 34 19 14 7 5 6 1 1 Cain +15
HI 293 GOP 36 24 8 4 8 6 1 1 Cain +12
SC 476 GOP 32 16 8 6 12 6 1 NotAsked Cain +16
FL 505 GOP 30.2 32.6 11.7 2.7 2.9 1.6 2 NotAsked Romney +2.4
IA GOP RV 26 18 12 10 6 11 1 NotAsked Cain +8
NH 409 GOP 24 39 5 11 2 5 5 NotAsked Romney +15
 
  Sample  Cain  Romney Gingrich Paul Perry Bachman Huntsman Santorum
U.S. ZOGBY 1214 GOP 45 21 6 8 7 1 3 3


I also show Zogby for comparison.... RealClearPolitics does not like them because they are an online poll.
But Zogby has 10% fewer 'undecided's than telephone polls... probably because those online pay closer attention to politics. ALSO, I see Michele B is low in the zogby and higher in the nationals, so it would seem Zogby relies more on men because more men use computers.

I also show a weighted 4-poll rolling average of recent national polls which also shows trend results similar to the 'composite' above.

Weighted 4-Poll Rolling Averages of the latest 20+ Polls listed at RCP [as of Oct 17]
plus the "YouGov" poll inserted chronologically


91 posted on 10/19/2011 11:52:31 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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To: Future Useless Eater

I was referring to the comment being from the July poll that showed Paul winning Texas over a non-entered Perry. My message was that their methodology is suspect. Cain being on top, while welcome, may not be reality and I don’t want to see huge disappointment hit the ranks if the next poll shows a different result.


92 posted on 10/19/2011 11:55:40 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: South40; buccaneer81

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/DriverLicense/identificationrequirements.htm


93 posted on 10/20/2011 5:02:12 AM PDT by wolfcreek (Perry to Obama: Adios, MOFO!)
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To: wolfcreek

Unless you buy a DL at the local fleamarket. Then you can use that as I.D. to vote....


94 posted on 10/23/2011 10:47:49 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: CSI007

Cain is the man!


95 posted on 10/23/2011 10:51:29 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: DrewsMum

In my county, they check your ID against voter rolls.


96 posted on 10/23/2011 11:08:54 AM PDT by wolfcreek (Perry to Obama: Adios, MOFO!)
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