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Buchanan: GOP Risks Third Party Revolt with Romney Candidacy
Newsmax.com ^ | 19 Oct 2011 | Martin Gould and Ashley Martella

Posted on 10/20/2011 11:40:57 AM PDT by broken_arrow1

The GOP could face a revolt from within its tea party grassroots base if it nominates an establishment candidate without true conservative, anti-big government values, one of America’s leading conservative pundits tells Newsmax.TV in an exclusive interview.

Specifically, columnist and former Republican presidential candidate Pat Buchanan told Newsmax that the nomination of former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, the architect of a state insurance plan that many say inspired Obamacare, could prompt the tea party movement to form a third party.

“It’s a real possibility because the tea party folks and the Republican conservatives and social conservatives and others are very apprehensive of Mitt Romney and they don’t feel he is really one of us,” Buchanan told Newsmax.

“They’ve got reason for that feeling and that sentiment but if they do that, if, for example … they persuaded Ron Paul to run on a third party ticket, Barack Obama would be easily re-elected,” he added.

Buchanan would certainly know. A former aide to President Ronald Reagan, he was one of the first conservative commentators to hold a prominent job as a TV commentator and syndicated columnist in the mainstream media.

From 1966 through 1974, Buchanan was an assistant to Richard Nixon, and from 1985 to 1987, White House Director of Communications for Reagan.

Buchanan ran twice for the Republican nomination for president and then in 2000 ran for the White House on the Reform Party ticket. He said he can see a third party candidate emerging in 2012 if Mitt Romney gets the GOP nod.

Of the current Republican candidates he said, “Certainly Michele Bachmann is one of us. I think Rick Perry is. I think Herman Cain is. If you are talking about a more traditional conservative certainly I would put Santorum in there.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: buchanan; communism; marxism; obama; socialism; zot; zots4romneybots
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To: tirednvirginia

It would make me literally sick to my stomach. Pray no conservative sells his soul for that abortionist big government progressive POS!


51 posted on 10/20/2011 12:28:03 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: broken_arrow1

Romney is Obama in whiteface.


52 posted on 10/20/2011 12:28:46 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: HiTech RedNeck

What part of ...I WON’T vote for the bastard...do you fail to understand?


53 posted on 10/20/2011 12:29:08 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: CommerceComet

The WSJ has been running articles, almost daily, warning that Romney is NOT A CONSERVATIVE. One article, by Henninger, said that there was still time to force Romney to the right by getting behind some of the more conservative candidates. (Newt and Santorum come to mind, Romney seems to simply dismiss Bachman)

Newt even insinuated that he could be the candidate to force Romney to move right.


54 posted on 10/20/2011 12:29:08 PM PDT by Eva
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To: dragnet2

And with the illegales (anchor babies or no) come misguided sympathizers who say the only way to help them is to shanghai the taxpayer into doing it. Private charities? Missions to Mexico? What’s that?


55 posted on 10/20/2011 12:30:03 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Venturer

I wish we had a like button, so I could just endorse your comment.

I actually think that the country and conservatives would be worse off with Romney as president because the Repubs in Congress would be hesitant not to vote with him. So, we’d be left with Obama- lite and nothing to stop him.


56 posted on 10/20/2011 12:32:11 PM PDT by Eva
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To: broken_arrow1
Already California, once a GOP bastion, has reached the point where no Republicans hold statewide offices, and other states in which non-Hispanic whites are becoming a minority will follow, he writes.

All part of the plan, as Texas, Florida, Nevada, Arizona and many others follow...

What did anyone expect?

After government rolled out the red carpet for tens of millions of illegals, who literally double their numbers every couple years with anchor babies, all on the backs of the tax payers..

In fact, only a blind fool can't see where this will lead the U.S., in just a few short years.

Thanks to government, and their drive to divide the united, there is nothing that will stop this national socialist suicide.

57 posted on 10/20/2011 12:32:36 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Beagle8U

You can vote Green or Communist or Mickey Mouse write in, that’s the beauty of America. But it’s horribly misguided. The GOP has sometimes gotten sensible justices into the USSC. Tell me any Democrat — any at all — who has.


58 posted on 10/20/2011 12:32:36 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: CommerceComet
How about if Cain or Rubio is on the ticket with Romney? It would help me to have a definitive answer on how FReepers stand on this issue.

McCain Romney Palin Cain 2008 2012

59 posted on 10/20/2011 12:35:03 PM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: MitchSouthFla.
Romney will likely do what John McCain did last time. You may be right, but I don't think it will work this time around. I can't see any real conservative being muzzled by RINO Romney. Palin went through it for all to see. A conservative VP isn't going to have much influence with a Romney caretaker government and I'm sure they know that. Try to imagine Rubio or any conservative caught between media baiting on RomneyCare and ObamaCare? What could they say and not draw Romney's ire? It's a tough spot being second fiddle to a RINO.
60 posted on 10/20/2011 12:36:24 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Eva

If Romney wanted to restructure his platform to imitate a popular candidate, seems to me that Cain is in that spot.


61 posted on 10/20/2011 12:36:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: livius

I have a great respect for Buchanan and I too think he may be right. I am another who is not going to vote for Romney no matter what.


62 posted on 10/20/2011 12:38:39 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: Jim Robinson

63 posted on 10/20/2011 12:38:50 PM PDT by Bobalu (More rubble, less trouble)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

If Romney is anywhere on the ticket, that slot on the ballot will be left blank.


64 posted on 10/20/2011 12:39:44 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: broken_arrow1

Bring it on.

Obama 35%
Romney 10%
Cain 55%


65 posted on 10/20/2011 12:42:11 PM PDT by Avery Iota Kracker (He Hate Me Uns)
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To: trubolotta

Romney has kept insisting that he never wished Romneycare on any other states or as a Federal thing, that it was a local Massachusetts thing. He’d probably claim the same with other screaming liberal influences he buddied up with while governor of Massachusetts. So a veep that parroted these talking points wouldn’t get any grief from Romney.


66 posted on 10/20/2011 12:42:42 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Beagle8U

Could you please be more clear?


67 posted on 10/20/2011 12:43:13 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: tirednvirginia

I will NEVER vote for Romney for Pres.

I could be persuaded if he were the VP candidate, because he would be too old to run again after his VP term was up. I don’t see what assets he could bring to the table as VP, though.


68 posted on 10/20/2011 12:43:34 PM PDT by Politicalmom (I am intrigued and open to the Bush administration’s amnesty proposal. -Rick Perry)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Cain hasn’t been able to push Romney because he doesn’t have full support on his own ideas and has shown a readiness to speak out before he gives an issue full though.

In other words, Romney thinks that he can dominate Cain, not the other way around. Romney knows that he is no match for Gingrich, less so Santorum, though I’d match Santorum’s intelligence against Romney any day.


69 posted on 10/20/2011 12:43:47 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Beagle8U

And when Obama has replaced a dying, say, Scalia with you know what, we know the ballot blankers are to thank.


70 posted on 10/20/2011 12:44:04 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Eva

Why not? He effortlessly moved to the left of Ted Kennedy in Massachusetts then governed as Teddy’s bitch. He’ll lie, steal, cheat, do or say anything to get elected.

He’s a two-bit lying political whore. No foundation whatsoever.


71 posted on 10/20/2011 12:46:57 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: DallasSun

“Could you please be more clear?”

Not without getting the boot...lol


72 posted on 10/20/2011 12:47:12 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

NUTS TO YOU!!

NO SURRENDER!! NO RETREAT!!

FUMR!! FUBO!!


73 posted on 10/20/2011 12:48:57 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
When that happens it will be the fault of those that didn't make their position clear before the liberal puke was given the nomination.
74 posted on 10/20/2011 12:49:50 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Something tells me that won't work because the question won't be what's the difference (state vs. federal). The question will be is RomneyCare a good plan. Romney still defends it. How can a VP criticize RomneyCare without criticizing Romney? A RINO VP could, but conservative VP? I don't think so.
75 posted on 10/20/2011 12:50:46 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: broken_arrow1

Pat is often wrong but he is right on this one. Romney would torch what is left of the GOP.


76 posted on 10/20/2011 12:52:02 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
“If Romney got the GOP nod, then Sarah Palin said she was going to run with Cain as a third party... now that could grab enough votes to upset the applecart but good.”

That would ensure the re-election of Obama.

77 posted on 10/20/2011 12:53:02 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: broken_arrow1
Sorry but it would better if the gop would lose if Romney was the candidate because it would teach the gop to not run liberal fools like Romney for president and put a real conservative instead!
78 posted on 10/20/2011 12:54:54 PM PDT by The Right wing Infidel
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To: Jim Robinson

OK, let’s easily lose the last bastion of US sanity before dissolving into another armed battle. I’ll gladly take the nuts, be they Brazil, almonds, filberts, cashews, even peanuts, for saying that. Of course every effort must be put into seeing that Romney is not the candidate. But if he is, a boycott of the GOP candidate for president, without a spectacularly good third party (again e.g. Cain/Palin running as TEA) is cutting off one’s nose to spite one’s face.


79 posted on 10/20/2011 12:55:30 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Beagle8U

LOL. I appreciate your being so succinct!


80 posted on 10/20/2011 12:55:40 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: The Right wing Infidel

Pyrrhic squared.


81 posted on 10/20/2011 12:56:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Grunthor

Great.. you purist Freepers will give us 4 more years of Obama.

Wonderful.


82 posted on 10/20/2011 12:57:15 PM PDT by Count of Monte Logan
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To: I Shall Endure
So I’d expect a liberal fourth party challenger, too.

The birth of a new conservative party requires 4 viable candidates running, which is exactly what happened when the new Republican Party first won power. If a conservative candidate runs third party it would be a good idea for us to also support a fourth party moonbat to break up Barky's base.

83 posted on 10/20/2011 12:57:31 PM PDT by Reeses (Have you mocked a Democrat today?)
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To: DaxtonBrown

As I said when Obamacare passed...the GOP is dead, they just don’t know it yet.

Nor does the majority on FR.

Any party that for decades wages war on their Conservative base, deserves ZERO support.

What are we?

The battered wives club?


84 posted on 10/20/2011 12:58:10 PM PDT by roses of sharon ("Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43)
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To: Count of Monte Logan

Unbunch your panties, I never said I was IN FAVOR of it.


85 posted on 10/20/2011 12:58:50 PM PDT by Grunthor (BEAT OBAMA WITH A CAIN!)
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To: riverdawg
If Romney wins the nod, it insures obama gets re-elected, period.

However, if he wins the nod, then Sarah and Cain getting together against him would at least make it interesting, and less of a cinch for obama.

86 posted on 10/20/2011 1:00:53 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I’ve posted a thousand times and this will make it a thousand and one. If RINO Mitt is the best the GOP has to offer then the GOP isn’t worth sh.. (rimes with Mitt).

It’s not that I’ve left the Republican Party, it will be the Republican party has left me.

Nominate an abortionist constitution trampler like Romney, then the GOP deserves to rot in hell!


87 posted on 10/20/2011 1:02:33 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Massachusetts Mitt, Gerald Ford, “mark my words” George Bush I , George Bush II, Undocumented Puppet Spammer, Rick Perry, Big Government vote the bailout McCain, and all the Big Media D.C. Bureaus.....

...all making the late Tip O’Neil so proud.....

.........making D.C. and the Big Beltway No. 1 in national income, on everyone elses backs. Hooray!


88 posted on 10/20/2011 1:02:55 PM PDT by Varsity Flight
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To: Count of Monte Logan

romneybot zot


89 posted on 10/20/2011 1:03:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Count of Monte Logan

Shove your “purity” where the sun don’t shine!! NUTS TO YOU, IDIOT!!


90 posted on 10/20/2011 1:04:52 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: tirednvirginia

Please tell me what Rubio has ever done to qualify him for national office.


91 posted on 10/20/2011 1:05:26 PM PDT by Jim Noble (To live peacefully with credit-based consumption and fiat money, men would have to be angels.)
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To: Count of Monte Logan

Here’s your purity, troll: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7OQoBxZZPqU


92 posted on 10/20/2011 1:06:54 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Count of Monte Logan

The poison brought by Obama extends to judicial appointments. Could a President Romney do worse? I’d think that Romney would lean towards libertarian judges and justices with strong tenth amendment sympathies, so that he can bask in the glory of pleasing all states, liberal and conservative. Obama would bring on nothing but more jackbooted socialists. When replacing other jackbooted socialists it’s a wash, but if someone like Scalia or Thomas is on the line, it’s a whole nother ball game.

If I get banned for asking the question, well I get banned. It’s Jim’s blog and he can do what he wishes.


93 posted on 10/20/2011 1:09:36 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: roses of sharon
What are we?

The battered wives club?

Excellent! Either establishment Republicans adapt or perish. It is they who will need a home and I doubt they will flock to the Democrats.

94 posted on 10/20/2011 1:10:53 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Jim Robinson

I feel your pain


95 posted on 10/20/2011 1:12:08 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I don’t think it is going to answer you. (Kitties ate him )


96 posted on 10/20/2011 1:12:41 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Romney has a history of making liberal appointments. He’s a dedicated big government progressive (leftist):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7OQoBxZZPqU

There will be NO campaign for Romney on FR!!


97 posted on 10/20/2011 1:16:16 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: trubolotta
The establishment GOP lives in its own little world, and it's difficult to penetrate. But they've got to be asking themselves now, why has Cain done so well, to push a more mushy Republican like Perry out of the limelight. They do all agree on deposing Obama, don't they? That means they need to compromise with the more conservative elements of their party to bring that hope to fruition.
98 posted on 10/20/2011 1:17:59 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Jim Noble

Sort of like Cain?


99 posted on 10/20/2011 1:18:12 PM PDT by tirednvirginia (t)
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To: All
I'm starting to feel better. Going to have to do some electoral map research. Maybe pull a Bush 2004 electoral map upset. . This just might do it!

Palin/Cain

100 posted on 10/20/2011 1:19:23 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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