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'Flash Robs' Vex Retailers
Wall Street Journal ^ | OCTOBER 21, 2011 | ANN ZIMMERMAN and MIGUEL BUSTILLO

Posted on 10/21/2011 7:55:14 AM PDT by reaganaut1

Retailers this holiday season are preparing to protect themselves against a new group of unwanted visitors: swarms of teenagers and young adults who plot via Twitter, phone texts and Facebook to descend on stores and steal merchandise.

Law enforcement officials call them "flash robs," a criminal incarnation of the "flash mob" phenomenon in which participants use social media to organize impromptu gatherings, from dances in shopping malls to uprisings in the Middle East.

In Philadelphia, about 40 boys swarmed into a suburban Sears in June and made off with thousands of dollars in merchandise including sneakers, socks and pretty much anything else they could snatch, police said.

Several retail chains including Filene's Basement, Armani Exchange and The North Face were victimized by similar incidents in Chicago this spring in which teens ran inside stores in Michigan Avenue's Magnificent Mile shopping district, screamed, knocked over displays and fled with jeans, sweaters and shirts.

In Washington, D.C., surveillance cameras caught a group of 10 young women streaming into a convenience store in August and making off with bags of snacks. Similar incidents have broken out in Cleveland, Las Vegas and St. Paul, Minn., among other places.

The National Retail Federation says that flash-mob attacks were reported by 10% of the 106 retailers it surveyed in July, a group that included department stores and big-box chains, as well as grocery and drug-store operators. Security personnel or police nabbed suspects in about half the cases, according to the survey, which examined crimes involving more than one perpetrator. Several incidents resulted in injuries, the survey found.

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[S]ecurity experts strongly discourage store employees from trying to intervene or stop shoplifters, due to the risk that it could turn violent.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: flashmob; flashrobs; shoplifting

1 posted on 10/21/2011 7:55:17 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

“In Philadelphia, about 40 boys swarmed into a suburban Sears in June and made off with thousands of dollars in merchandise”

Damn amish. Send them back to Europe where they belong.


2 posted on 10/21/2011 7:59:10 AM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: reaganaut1

Due to political correctness, they are not reporting that almost all of the “youth” involved are ghetto black youth. In other crimes, we’re allowed to be more descriptive of who perpetrators are, but in this case, we can’t say the obvious.

Of course not all black youth are criminals, any more than all terrorists are Muslim. But, how far do we have to take political correctness?


3 posted on 10/21/2011 7:59:34 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“all terrorists are Muslim”

The vast majority are.


4 posted on 10/21/2011 8:02:30 AM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: reaganaut1
As the demographics of America shift, every norm of society will change. Without a respect for property rights one cannot maintain retail shopping as we understand it.

We have entered a new era of tribalism.

5 posted on 10/21/2011 8:03:31 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Hey, Hippie...Occupy a LIFE!)
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To: reaganaut1

Shoot to kill


6 posted on 10/21/2011 8:10:27 AM PDT by NRA1995 (Obama's presidency is shovel-ready; let's bury it in 2012!)
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To: reaganaut1

I once built a set of metal doors/gates for a pawn shop that allowed the operator to push a button and lock the front of the store down in case of a robbery while he disappeared into the back room and called the cops.

I don’t know if he ever used it but I thought he had a good idea. Of course libs would call it false imprisonment or some such.


7 posted on 10/21/2011 8:11:32 AM PDT by Howie
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Due to political correctness, they are not reporting that almost all of the “youth” involved are ghetto black youth.

Holder's People.

- This is protected "Speech" because stealing, robbing and mugging are expressions of their cultural heritage.

/s


8 posted on 10/21/2011 8:13:30 AM PDT by Iron Munro ('We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them.' -- Mitt Romney)
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To: reaganaut1
One-click electronic door locks...

Every employee armed with at least an extendable baton...
...MACE...
oh yeah... and a taser...

uniformed and undercover security legally permitted CCW...
...and armed with a well-oiled 9mm.....

It would only take making "flash rob" headlines once or twice...

... Big Momma would have a stern word with the twins; Oblivious and Lascivious....

Ths "fad" would become "so much yesterday".... really quick!

9 posted on 10/21/2011 8:13:38 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Due to political correctness, they are not reporting that almost all of the “youth” involved are ghetto black youth.

Holder's People.

- This is protected "Speech" because stealing, robbing and mugging are expressions of their cultural heritage.

/s


10 posted on 10/21/2011 8:13:56 AM PDT by Iron Munro ('We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them.' -- Mitt Romney)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass
hit an alarm button that summons the po-po and closes all doors while simultaneously filling the place with CS gas.

that’ll fix em.

11 posted on 10/21/2011 8:16:06 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: Aevery_Freeman

I’ve been saying that for months; everybody thinks I’m some racist crackpot when in fact, I’m just an amateur Sociologist. Beware!

The thing I can’t quite wrap my mind around is the propellant behind this descent into tribalism; maybe its just a normal social reaction to the breakdown in civil society. For example, when Rome finally fell and Europe descended into a long “dark” age from approximately 600 a.d.~1100 a.d., the “tribe” was the only remaining “social structure” that offered any modicum of security.


12 posted on 10/21/2011 8:17:07 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: Aevery_Freeman

Exactly.


13 posted on 10/21/2011 8:20:32 AM PDT by mrsmel
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To: Wings-n-Wind
Big Momma would have a stern word with the twins; Oblivious and Lascivious

You mean O'Blivious and LaScivious?

:^)

14 posted on 10/21/2011 8:22:15 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Howie

this is part of why I Christmas shop entirely online.


15 posted on 10/21/2011 8:23:44 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: reaganaut1

Remote locks on the doors. When you see a mob outside, just lock the doors.


16 posted on 10/21/2011 8:24:36 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: reaganaut1

Fire at will, store owners.


17 posted on 10/21/2011 8:24:48 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Abolish TSA....Abolish Department of Fatherland Security...Just Say NO to the American Police State!)
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To: Rich21IE

I think the mindset has been there for several generations,
but the election of a “black” man to the presidency

“empowered” them to act out on their generationally passed culture.


18 posted on 10/21/2011 8:27:03 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: reaganaut1

The obvious solution is a shotgun behind every counter!


19 posted on 10/21/2011 8:27:47 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

On monday of this week, there was a mod that kept pulling comments and even whole threads that made observations such as yours.

I’m curious as to why a PC-oriented individual such as that would be appointed as moderator on FR.


20 posted on 10/21/2011 8:28:42 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Rich21IE

The Victory of Reason: How Christianity Led to Freedom, Capitalism, and Western Success by Rodney Stark

The gospel of Christ never disappeared in the so-called "dark ages", as it is incorrectly labeled.

21 posted on 10/21/2011 8:35:07 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: reaganaut1

Property crimes should be considered violent crimes for legal purposes. I don’t know why right-thinking state legislators can’t expand on the ‘home-is-your-castle doctrine’ and introduce state laws to immunize people who use deadly force to protect private property at private businesses. So even if you are not in immediate fear for your life, you should be able to shoot to protect merchandise.

Seems to me it would pass constitutional muster. We’d be dealing with the use of deadly force by private citizens and not any state actors — therefore no problem under the 14th amendment.


22 posted on 10/21/2011 8:35:46 AM PDT by crusader71
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To: reaganaut1
[S]ecurity experts strongly discourage store employees from trying to intervene or stop shoplifters, due to the risk ardent hope that it could turn violent.

Correcting for grammar and punctuation.

23 posted on 10/21/2011 8:39:09 AM PDT by Lazamataz (When I see pictures or videos of the Occupation, all that I see is an ocean of mostly white faces.)
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To: reaganaut1
Some years ago, probably in the 1990s, I had a layover in the Houston airport and bought the local newspaper to read while I was waiting. They had a story about how the band for a local black university had been touring Japan and while there the members went into an electronics store and shoplifted a bunch of items. So this isn't entirely a new phenomenon.

The Japanese were upset with this--culturally insensitive of them.

24 posted on 10/21/2011 8:59:31 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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25 posted on 10/21/2011 9:09:43 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Aevery_Freeman; Howie
As the demographics of America shift, every norm of society will change. Without a respect for property rights one cannot maintain retail shopping as we understand it.

We are rapidly heading toward a degraded culture where our living environment will be like a mix of Port-au-Prince, Ciudad Juárez, Mogadishu, and San Juan.

We will be enjoying the fruits of diversity every day and and every sleepless night.

People looking for jobs and work should learn welding and steel fabrication.
Installation of burglar bars and perimeter fences are already a fast growing industry.


26 posted on 10/21/2011 9:10:39 AM PDT by Iron Munro ('We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them.' -- Mitt Romney)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass
"boys".....when my father was a "boy" at just 17 he left HS and joined the Navy during WW2....

funny how boys have changed over the years...

27 posted on 10/21/2011 9:17:15 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Christian Engineer Mass
"boys".....when my father was a "boy" at just 17 he left HS and joined the Navy during WW2....

funny how boys have changed over the years...

28 posted on 10/21/2011 9:17:24 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Aevery_Freeman
ALL of our norms and our laws are based on the fact that most people will follow them...our tax system...our traffic laws....our retail...everything....

used to seeing fresh markets with fruit and veggies in bins outside the store?...or stacks of bottled water or charcoal?....

there is a reason people live where they live....its not racist...its simply smart...

29 posted on 10/21/2011 9:21:02 AM PDT by cherry
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To: reaganaut1

“WHO YOU CALLIN BOY????”


30 posted on 10/21/2011 9:28:34 AM PDT by wolficatZ (Somebody once wrote "Revenge is a dish that has to be eaten cold".)
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To: reaganaut1

I like my wife’s suggestion: make sure there’s only one door in, and it’s the same door out — and keep a couple of trained dogs there. Be sure they’re big dogs. Make it clear that if anything happens, the dogs are instructed to keep people from leaving the premises (until the police arrive). The nice thing about well-trained dogs is that they won’t bother anybody at all unless they’re told to.

In my experience, the sort of ‘utes’ typically involved in this sort of activity aren’t particularly fond of large, hostile canines - their very presence may be enough to keep the riff-raff away.

Now that strategy actually works only *if* the police actually arrive when called.


31 posted on 10/21/2011 9:44:07 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: Howie

the electronic door locks would violate fire codes in almost any major city


32 posted on 10/21/2011 9:52:07 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

You are probably right, though I notice that most banks lock the customers in (and out) at closing time. It is done with a key, though.


33 posted on 10/21/2011 10:16:10 AM PDT by Howie
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To: reaganaut1
[S]ecurity experts strongly discourage store employees from trying to intervene or stop shoplifters, due to the risk that it could turn violent.

Guaranteeing they will have more and more flash robs!

34 posted on 10/21/2011 10:59:24 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: reaganaut1
[S]ecurity experts strongly discourage store employees from trying to intervene or stop shoplifters, due to the risk that it could turn violent.

Mark Steyn had a phrase for advice like that: "Preemptive cringing".

35 posted on 10/21/2011 11:10:06 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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