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BREAKING President Obama Will Announce Today Complete Drawdown of US Troops/Iraq/By Year End
ABC News ^ | October 21, 2011 | Jake Tapper

Posted on 10/21/2011 9:33:36 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

Sources tell ABC News that the president will announce today that US troops in Iraq will draw down to zero by the end of the year.

A White House official says that at approximately 11:30am today, President Obama convened a secure video conference with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to talk with him about this news.

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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Once again putting his re-election desires above the safety, security and needs of this country.
And we’re suppose to be surprised or shocked?
He don’t care. He has not a clue of what it means to be an American...but run a crooked election campaign? Boy Howdy, he da man!


51 posted on 10/21/2011 9:59:43 AM PDT by ozark hilljilly (Tagline typed on a closed keyboard. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: SueRae; rhombus

No matter the time of day, I*I*I = a SHOT. Not even 10AM here and I’m toasted! %)


52 posted on 10/21/2011 9:59:55 AM PDT by ninergold3 (Let Go and Let God - He IS In Control)
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To: Major Matt Mason

At least they will be able to vote in 2012 at home in the USA. We won’t have to worry about the dems not counting their votes.


53 posted on 10/21/2011 10:00:32 AM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

[TINFOIL ALERT]

Hmm, maybe he will need as many troops back here as possible for 2012 so when Martial Law is declared he can keep things in check.

[TINFOIL ALERT]

Either that or he is doing this to appease his liberal base which has been constantly erodeing in the last 2 years.


54 posted on 10/21/2011 10:00:41 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Psalm 144

The UN, Euro’s and Obama fully support the creation of a Caliphate across the Muslim world. They think it will be easier to deal with than many different governments. heh.

Why do you think the UN and France went to war to install a Muzzie leader in Ivory Coast?? It got very little attention at the time.


55 posted on 10/21/2011 10:00:56 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Tallguy

Iran’s leaders are just drooling at this, there is going to be one big-assed party in Tehran tonight.


56 posted on 10/21/2011 10:01:04 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: kabar

Anyone notice Scott Pelley (CBS turd) getting his little dig at Bush at the beginning saying the troops went into Iraq at the beginning under the false assumption that there were weapons of mass destruction?

Bill Clinton , while he was President, also stated that Iraq had WMDs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0f5u_0ytUs

Sorry, Pelley, but Bush wasn’t the only one who was wrong.


57 posted on 10/21/2011 10:01:50 AM PDT by WoodlandsTXFreeper2
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To: tlb

It won’t be Blackwater. And I would prefer by far US military protection—cheaper and better. There will be some thorny questions as to what kind of immunity will be extended to these security forces. And you can bet that Iran will be working with Iraqi dissidents to perform acts of terrorism against our personnel and facililties. As a former diplomat, I would not want to be assigned to our Embassy under these conditions. It is going to be a nightmare.


58 posted on 10/21/2011 10:03:13 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Castigar
"Regardless of how you feel about this, it is PURELY a political campaign move."

And, as with everything this administration does, it is an extremely stupid move. If it works, it will have been largely forgotten come election time, but if the Iraq goes sour, it will be a millstone round Obozo's neck during the campaign.

59 posted on 10/21/2011 10:03:19 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Disambiguator

He’ll say that the money saved by bringing the troops home can “be used for job creation, keeping cops and teachers on the job, and for badly needed investments here at home”.

(that argument basically got Bob Casey elected to the Senate in ‘06)


60 posted on 10/21/2011 10:03:29 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Obama preempted Andy Griffith and it was an episode I hadn’t seen! The nerve!


61 posted on 10/21/2011 10:03:34 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
I have a bad feeling about this.
62 posted on 10/21/2011 10:05:10 AM PDT by BuckyKat (Green = the new red)
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To: Abathar

Party time in ole Tehran tonight. Break out the non alcoholic beer and wine. Throw in a few stonings of infidels. Great time to be had by all.


63 posted on 10/21/2011 10:05:10 AM PDT by animal172 (Please Lord. Come get the liberals.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

A great triumph for O. Never mind that al Maliki is essentially kicking us out in order to initiate a “partnership” with Iran.


64 posted on 10/21/2011 10:06:17 AM PDT by JimSEA (The future ain't what it used to be.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Part of the motivation might be eliminating a large outflow of our money. There are no ways of cutting expenses that are free from drawbacks. Maybe this drawdown will interfere with our objectives in Iraq. So be it. We gotta cut expenses, don’t we?

I’m anxious to hear feedback from our military experts.


65 posted on 10/21/2011 10:06:47 AM PDT by frposty (I'm a simpleton)
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To: WoodlandsTXFreeper2
The troops went into Iraq for the 23 reasons stated in the Text of Joint Resolution On Iraq Passed By The United States Congress WMD was just part of it.
66 posted on 10/21/2011 10:07:43 AM PDT by kabar
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To: animal172

Here is an additional clip with Pelosi, Biden, and other Dem leaders saying the same thing as mentioned before (see Post 57)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUeIrUsApuE&feature=related


67 posted on 10/21/2011 10:07:48 AM PDT by WoodlandsTXFreeper2
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
I'm sure everyone in America has mixed feelings right now. Mixed because we will be happy to see our troops come home and get out of that miserable, impossible part of the world, but bitter at the costs to us in lives and treasure and the seeming ingratitude of the Iraqi government, if not the people.

In terms of Zero, I can't believe he started his press conference with a reaffirmation of his campaign promise; as if this was his plan. He had been trying to negotiate to remain there to the end. Disingenuous and self-centered as usual. He also gave a rather somber summation, rather than providing our troops the leadership and adequate recognition of a job well done. I would have prefered that he had taken measure of our accomplishments; the war is won, and our troops deserve praise not just a ride home.

As for Iraq, leave them to their fate.

68 posted on 10/21/2011 10:08:08 AM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: kabar

Agreed.


69 posted on 10/21/2011 10:08:46 AM PDT by WoodlandsTXFreeper2
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Meanwhile..as Barry does his victory dance ,
US casualties continue to be at record levels in Afghanistan.
For the third year in a row.
I know it’s just a coincidence...

http://www.defense.gov/releases/
This list is just for thirty days.
Unlike Obama, Never Forget.


70 posted on 10/21/2011 10:08:56 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Shipping the troops to Africa...under the radar, of course.


71 posted on 10/21/2011 10:09:17 AM PDT by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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To: kabar

They violated the terms of the Cease Fire that temporarily put an end to the First Gulf War, so in essence it was a continuation of the First Gulf War.


72 posted on 10/21/2011 10:10:07 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
well, since they can just drive them all across the border into Afghanistan I really don't see that happening.
73 posted on 10/21/2011 10:10:51 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Oh the joy of hearing dear leader speak on a daily basis!! /puking When is the next MSM worship service?


74 posted on 10/21/2011 10:11:34 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

What a great guy. Not too ethical to use the troops to gain points.


75 posted on 10/21/2011 10:12:19 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: GraceG

“Hmm, maybe he will need as many troops back here as possible for 2012 so when Martial Law is declared he can keep things in check.

[TINFOIL ALERT]”

You and me both.


76 posted on 10/21/2011 10:13:20 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Michael Barnes

>>> LOL; I think you mean Xe Services LLC.

You really think that was worth a LOL?

Yes I know the retagging of the company. But most people recognize Blackwater, not Xe. That was the point of the name-change. Just trying to keep the post clear and unencumbered.


77 posted on 10/21/2011 10:13:45 AM PDT by tlb
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To: b4its2late
And you posted this around 12:30 pm.

It shows that the meeting did not last long. I doubt its duration exceeded Obama's 20-min attention span. Actually, I am surprised he found time at all considering how busy his Presidential schedule is today:


9:30 AM
The President signs the Korea, Panama, Colombia Free Trade Agreements and the renewal of Trade Adjustment Assistance for workers

10:30 AM
The President drops by a reception in the Rose Garden

2:30 PM
The President honors recipients of the 2010 National Medal of Science and National Medal of Technology and Innovation


http://www.whitehouse.gov/schedule/president/2011-W43
78 posted on 10/21/2011 10:14:43 AM PDT by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Abathar

The only thing is the order of Iraq’s breakup into it’s component nationalities. I’m betting the Kurds are getting ready to split. They’re already feeling heat from Turkey, so they’re probably going to pull the Peshmerga forces back to defend the homeland. Nothing to fight for in Iraq any longer.

One of these days we’ll wake-up to reports of al Quds forces operating in the open in Basra.

There will be neighborhood violence in Baghdad. The Sunni’s will quickly back a “Strong-Man” in an effort to defend the center.

Question is: What can the US do once the split begins? Who do you back when there essentially is no Iraq?


79 posted on 10/21/2011 10:14:50 AM PDT by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: WoodlandsTXFreeper2

“One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.”
—President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

“If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.”
—President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

“Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.”
—Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

“He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.”
—Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

“[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.”
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
— Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

“Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.”
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

“Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.”
— Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

“There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.”
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
— Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

“We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them.”
— Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

“We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.”
— Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

“Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.”
— Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.”
— Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

“The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons...”
— Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

“I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.”
— Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

“There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.”
— Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

“He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do”
— Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.”
— Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

“We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.”
— Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

“Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real...”
— Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003


80 posted on 10/21/2011 10:14:50 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
And....African Black Christians, watch your back. Obama has you in his sights!!!

Ugh... Please don't tell me you're going down that "The LRA are Christian feedom fighters" movement.

81 posted on 10/21/2011 10:16:16 AM PDT by chargers fan
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To: left that other site
“It is Very stupid to tell your enemy your plans”...Shih-T’Zu

End of year is only 10 weeks away. It will take that long to pack up our stuff. The commanders have likely already been told to start. Also, the Iraqi government would know, and can be relied on to leak the info to all the Islamists.

82 posted on 10/21/2011 10:17:02 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

How STUPID can Obama get? Just wait five minutes, he will come up with some new low.


83 posted on 10/21/2011 10:17:41 AM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: dfwgator

Do we even know if Zippy is a Sunni? If so, he probably hates Shiites like the plague. Although granted he hates infidels even more.


84 posted on 10/21/2011 10:17:41 AM PDT by bergmeid (Keep the Hope and Change)
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To: JimSEA

I had not heard of that, do you have more info (link or so?) about that?


85 posted on 10/21/2011 10:19:40 AM PDT by bergmeid (Keep the Hope and Change)
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To: b4its2late
President Obama convened a secure video conference with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to talk with him about this news

Talking to Iraq after announcing?

86 posted on 10/21/2011 10:19:51 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: WoodlandsTXFreeper2
I haven't researched this yet but a trusted Twitter poster said: 12/31/11 withdrawal date set by Pres Bush in famous shoe-throwing news conf in Baghdad. That's where 12/31/11 came from
87 posted on 10/21/2011 10:19:51 AM PDT by ninergold3 (Let Go and Let God - He IS In Control)
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To: dfwgator

Keep posting that. People need to know the Democrats were 100% behind stopping Sadam and his WMD programs before Bush was elected, then they changed their tune. They are liars, just like Obama.


88 posted on 10/21/2011 10:20:38 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: WoodlandsTXFreeper2
Have you ever bothered reading the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002?
89 posted on 10/21/2011 10:22:18 AM PDT by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Jeff Vader
I don’t see how this helps obama?

Nuclear skirmish, Obama suspends election until crisis is over, crisis escalates.

90 posted on 10/21/2011 10:24:39 AM PDT by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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To: Truth29

How soon after the troop removal will it be before Iran and Iraq are at war with each other?

For all his evil, Sadam Hussein did keep Iran busy.


91 posted on 10/21/2011 10:24:58 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

This move is to preoccupy Iran thru the election year.


92 posted on 10/21/2011 10:28:12 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (I'll follow an eloquent Allen West out of hell.)
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To: vbmoneyspender
Good let them come home. Obama has ruined the war plan anyway and with his rules of engagement our soldiers are sitting ducks. Good!
93 posted on 10/21/2011 10:28:18 AM PDT by angcat (NEW YORK YANKEES!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Elections are coming up.

How obvious the attempt at election fixing.


94 posted on 10/21/2011 10:31:29 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: bergmeid

Pure speculation on my part based on al Sadr’s return from Iran and the Iraqi actions forcing us out. IMO Iran and the Shia in Iraq will become best friends and the Sunni terrorist bombings will intensify.


95 posted on 10/21/2011 10:32:19 AM PDT by JimSEA (The future ain't what it used to be.)
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To: dfwgator; WoodlandsTXFreeper2
You forgot the best one of all - the inventor of the 'imminent threat' quote:

There has also been some debate over how “imminent” a threat Iraq poses. I do believe that Iraq poses an imminent threat, but I also believe that after September 11, the question is increasingly outdated. It is in the nature of these weapons, and the way they are targeted against civilian populations, that documented capability and demonstrated intent may be the only warning we get. To insist on further evidence could put some of our fellow Americans at risk. Can we afford to take that chance? We cannot!

-Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV), 10 October 2002

Rockefeller was the first person to characterize Iraq as an 'imminent threat'.

96 posted on 10/21/2011 10:32:22 AM PDT by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Gator113

He may get a temporary bump..... but after Iran moves in, he’ll be forced to send troops back, and his numbers will drop like a stone.


97 posted on 10/21/2011 10:33:13 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

This is great news. Would have been better if the announcement was, “we left yesterday”.

Now, let’s also get the heck out of Afghanistan.

Osama, Kadaffi, and Hussein are all dead; Mission Accomplished, We Won, See ya later....

I’ve supported Afghanistan and Iraq, and Libya. While I scratch my head at Obama and Libya, frankly, for a Democrat, he’s executed the WOT pretty well.

For a very long time, doesn’t matter. Democrat or Republican in the WH, we’ll kick your a$$...

Big Kudos to all the fighting men and women of the USA!


98 posted on 10/21/2011 10:33:39 AM PDT by Professional
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

He’s getting our troops out of there so that when the Iranian nuclear missile rain on Israel starts, he can say that he got American troops out of harms way. Take a look at the map, pretty much everything Iran would send to Israel has to fly over Iraq first.


99 posted on 10/21/2011 10:33:53 AM PDT by bergmeid (Keep the Hope and Change)
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To: dandiegirl
I think many of those votes will go to Obama, though. Unless they are shipped to Africa, that is.
100 posted on 10/21/2011 10:35:48 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason (Democrat Party = Communist Party)
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