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Perry and Bachmann Take Veiled Swipes At Cain In Iowa
The Lebanon Daily Star ^ | October 24, 2011 01:04 AM | By John Whitesides

Posted on 10/23/2011 4:39:23 PM PDT by drewh

DES MOINES, Iowa: Republicans Rick Perry and Michele Bachmann took veiled swipes at surging presidential rival Herman Cain Saturday as six of the party’s White House hopefuls courted social conservatives at an Iowa forum.

Appearing separately before about 1,000 conservative activists, the Republican candidates all pledged to protect the unborn, defend traditional marriage, limit government and bring an end to the presidency of Democrat Barack Obama.

But Cain, the former pizza executive, came under indirect fire for seeming to suggest earlier this week that while he opposed abortion, government should not be trying to tell a woman what to do about it.

“It is a liberal canard to say I am personally pro-life, but government should stay out of that decision,” Texas Governor Rick Perry told the Iowa forum, held in an exhibition hall at the Iowa State Fairgrounds.

“If that is your view, you are not pro-life,” he said, without mentioning Cain by name. “You are pro having your cake and eating it too.”

Bachmann also criticized Cain’s abortion comments without naming him, saying she believed government must intervene to protect the unborn and she would support a constitutional amendment on the issue.

Bachmann, a U.S. representative from Minnesota, also said she would never consider negotiating the release of detainees at Guantanamo Bay – a direct rebuttal of Cain’s recent comment that he would consider trading them for a U.S. hostage.

Cain, who has struggled in the past week as his views come under more scrutiny, has tried to backtrack on both of those comments. At the forum he was direct when asked about his stance on abortion. “No abortions, no exceptions,” he said.

The forum was heavy on social issues, and all of the candidates were asked by the forum sponsors what they would do to end abortion on demand. Former U.S. Senator Rick Santorum questioned the commitment of the other candidates to fight on the issue.

The conservative activists at the forum, sponsored by the Faith and Freedom Coalition, gave all of the candidates similar polite but not wildly enthusiastic responses.

Former U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Newt Gingrich drew some of the biggest cheers of the evening for a speech that forecast economic recovery after Obama’s defeat in November 2012.

“Late that night, the recovery will begin,” Gingrich said, predicting a groundswell of optimism and hiring after Obama’s defeat. “We can have a dramatically better Christmas in 2012 if it is the goodbye Obama Christmas.”

The social and religious conservatives who play a big role in the Iowa nominating contest Jan. 3 have spent much of the Republican campaign seeking a candidate to rally around.

Bachmann surged during the summer but faded shortly after her August straw poll win. Perry took the lead after entering the race in August but sunk after halting debate performances.

Cain is the latest candidate to surge in the race, with recent polls giving him leads in Iowa and in some cases, nationally. His supporters in the crowd said they thought he could have some staying power.

“Look how far he’s come with no budget. He’s charismatic, and when he says something you can believe it,” said Keith Lacy, who owns two Godfather’s Pizza restaurants in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Cain had been chief executive of the pizza chain.

Bachmann told the conservative crowd she was one of them and said they needed to rally around a candidate to kick Obama out of the White House.

“This is the year when social conservatives can have it all,” she said. “This is our year when we don’t compromise, this is our year when we don’t settle.”

Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, the nominal front-runner in the Republican field who Thursday made just his third visit to Iowa this year, skipped the forum. He has had trouble winning over conservatives because of his past support for abortion rights and an individual health care mandate.

After plunging millions into the Iowa contest in 2008, Romney lost to former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, who won strong support from the state’s religious conservatives. Polls showed big majorities of caucus-goers in 2008 made up their mind in the last month before the contest.


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1 posted on 10/23/2011 4:39:31 PM PDT by drewh
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To: drewh
“If that is your view, you are not pro-life,” he said, without mentioning Cain by name. “You are pro having your cake and eating it too.”

Cain is more pro-life than you, Perry. I would be very careful about picking a fight on that particular hill, based entirely on a misrepresentation of Cain's comments.

2 posted on 10/23/2011 4:43:33 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: drewh
I was most impressed by Gingrich's speech, and his Q&A session as well. When he's on his game, nobody does it better. Cain needs to keep it simple and not get caught up in media gotcha games. He'll be fine. Gingrich/Cain 2012.
3 posted on 10/23/2011 4:45:46 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: dirtboy

ditto.

perry, bachmann, paul, and santorum are wearing on me.

stop attacking each other, and attack obama!


4 posted on 10/23/2011 4:47:17 PM PDT by ken21
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To: hinckley buzzard

Cain is now truly a front runner if he is taking shots at the debates.


5 posted on 10/23/2011 4:47:29 PM PDT by drewh
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To: drewh
I wonder if Governor Perry thinks it's a liberal cannard to spend a million dollars of one’s own money fighting for the pro life cause.
6 posted on 10/23/2011 4:52:17 PM PDT by 07Jack
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To: drewh

It is a liberal canard to say I am personally anti-illegal immigration, but the state government I run rewards illegals with in-state tuition, welfare, medical, food stamps and numerous other goodies and I’m against building a border fence, 2ndDivisionVet told the Perrywinkles.


7 posted on 10/23/2011 4:53:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: drewh

Perry is embarrassing Texas more each and every day.


8 posted on 10/23/2011 4:59:14 PM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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To: drewh

“It is a liberal canard to say I am personally pro-life, but government should stay out of that decision,” Texas Governor Rick Perry told the Iowa forum, held in an exhibition hall at the Iowa State Fairgrounds. “If that is your view, you are not pro-life,” he said, without mentioning Cain by name. “You are pro having your cake and eating it too.”

Perry is the most repulsive person ever in politics. He is such a traitor and LIAR. I can’t wait until he drops out. He is a big loser and worthless human being. How dare this TURD go after a patriotic conservative human being.


9 posted on 10/23/2011 5:01:11 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: drewh

I think the people can see clearly why Perry and Bachmann are doing that, and it won’t bolster the popularity of either of them. These two, and any others who try the same shenanigans, will only bury themselves deeper in the polls.

Our country is at stake! Why are we not hearing what these cry babies would do to save it? That is what Herman Cain talks about. He doesn’t ding his competitors. He is a Statesman!

As I’ve said elsewhere the differences in calibre of character becomes more evident every day. Victory too Herman Cain!


10 posted on 10/23/2011 5:05:13 PM PDT by Paperdoll (I like Herman Cain)
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To: Paperdoll; jazusamo; cripplecreek

P8ING


11 posted on 10/23/2011 5:08:30 PM PDT by Paperdoll (I like Herman Cain)
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To: drewh

Petty infighting makes them all less attractive to me, even Michelle when she tries to spotlight something in another candidate to try to marginalize them, makes her look petty. Cain sizzles ‘cause he has originality and a fresh bold approach. To Cain I say, don’t sweat the small stuff, that is the only thing the others can hit you on, is small stuff...


12 posted on 10/23/2011 5:11:39 PM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: Paperdoll

Great points and wouldn’t you would think by now the other candidates would take a lesson from Cain in that regard. While other candidates cry, whine and criticize each other, Cain stands tall and offers real ideas in an effort to solve the nation’s problems.


13 posted on 10/23/2011 5:13:46 PM PDT by 07Jack
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To: ken21
Bachmann was on Fox tonight and had all her canned talking points,as usual.

She is about as boring as watching paint dry.

Talk about gaffes - she makes them on a regular basis. I think even her NH Staff realized she's not got what it takes to be POTUS.

JMHO.

14 posted on 10/23/2011 5:14:37 PM PDT by not2worry
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To: 07Jack

OTOH, if you stay above the fray, you’re accused of running for someone’s VP slot. It’s truly a darned if you can do, darned if you can’t situation...

Cain is going to be walking into a lot more of those traps now that he’s within striking distance of Romney. He should be strong enough to prevail.


15 posted on 10/23/2011 5:17:08 PM PDT by Cruising For Freedom
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To: dirtboy
Cain is more pro-life than you, Perry.

Cain is more conservative than La Raza Rick, period.

16 posted on 10/23/2011 5:21:43 PM PDT by South40 (Heartless since 1957)
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To: bgill

Rick Perry please......as a Texan I’m personally against forcing young girls to have innoculations decreed by state govt that you supported. And unless Roe v Wade gets overturned its still legal to have abortions however heinous that truly is. Cain is most assuredly pro-life so stop the sniping at him on this issue.


17 posted on 10/23/2011 5:22:28 PM PDT by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: drewh

Anyone want to bet that these dishonest statements will stop the crash of these candidates in the polls?


18 posted on 10/23/2011 5:22:28 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: drewh

All of the “other” candidates still don’t realize they should Be attacking Romney not Cain.........


19 posted on 10/23/2011 5:24:24 PM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: 07Jack

What is the source for Cain spending a million of his own money? What did you do with it? Where did he give it?


20 posted on 10/23/2011 5:29:08 PM PDT by magritte
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To: drewh

If neither Perry nor Bachmann names Cain what makes the MSM so sure they were taking a swipe at him. Sounds to me like the MSM is trying to stir things up.


21 posted on 10/23/2011 5:37:52 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: magritte

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2796268/posts

The “Red State” article that was the subject of this thread discussed it and I have heard or saw it discussed in other articles and FR threads as well.


22 posted on 10/23/2011 5:43:25 PM PDT by 07Jack
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To: drewh

And they all looked really pety doing it too. It wasn’t a debate after all.


23 posted on 10/23/2011 5:43:57 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: 07Jack

I typically like to go to other sources besides FR...here’s a contemporaneous article that contradicts that assertion:

Ms. Griffin said a community meeting is planned for Friday to discuss the ad campaign. The key financial backer of America’s Pac is J. Patrick Rooney, 78, of Indianapolis. Mr. Rooney, a strong proponent of school choice scholarship programs, retired in 1996 as chairman of Golden Rule Insurance. The company was sold to larger insurer, United-Health Group, in 2003 for a reported $893 million.

According to a report filed with the Internal Revenue Service, a company reportedly tied to Mr. Rooney, Woodland Group LLC, gave $900,000 to America’s PAC earlier this year. Other donors chipped in about $32,000.

Mr. Rooney declined to be interviewed yesterday. The group referred calls from The New York Sun to a conservative, African-American talk show host who voiced some of the ads, Herman Cain.

“The main thing that America’s Pac is up to is it basically is challenging the thesis or the belief on the part of the Republican Party that they cannot attract the black vote,” Mr. Cain said. He said similar advertisements run in 2004 helped boost President Bush’s share of the black vote in Ohio to 16%, from 9% in 2000.

“We don’t believe that was an accident,” Mr. Cain said. The IRS filing indicates that the ads are running this year in 10 battleground states, including Ohio, New Mexico, and Nevada.

Mr. Cain, who once managed the Godfather’s Pizza chain and ran unsuccessfully for the Senate from Georgia in 2004, said he was not troubled that Mr. Rooney, who is white, is funding ads using black voices who claim to speak on behalf of the black community.”You don’t have a lot of black billionaires who would want to fund something like this,” he said.

America’s Pac is the brainchild of a Kansas-based Republican consultant, Richard Nadler.He said Sunday that he is no longer affiliated with the group.

http://www.nysun.com/national/republican-group-chides-democrats-with-abortion/41648/


24 posted on 10/23/2011 5:52:28 PM PDT by magritte
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To: 07Jack

I typically like to go to other sources besides FR...here’s a contemporaneous article that contradicts that assertion:

Ms. Griffin said a community meeting is planned for Friday to discuss the ad campaign. The key financial backer of America’s Pac is J. Patrick Rooney, 78, of Indianapolis. Mr. Rooney, a strong proponent of school choice scholarship programs, retired in 1996 as chairman of Golden Rule Insurance. The company was sold to larger insurer, United-Health Group, in 2003 for a reported $893 million.

According to a report filed with the Internal Revenue Service, a company reportedly tied to Mr. Rooney, Woodland Group LLC, gave $900,000 to America’s PAC earlier this year. Other donors chipped in about $32,000.

Mr. Rooney declined to be interviewed yesterday. The group referred calls from The New York Sun to a conservative, African-American talk show host who voiced some of the ads, Herman Cain.

“The main thing that America’s Pac is up to is it basically is challenging the thesis or the belief on the part of the Republican Party that they cannot attract the black vote,” Mr. Cain said. He said similar advertisements run in 2004 helped boost President Bush’s share of the black vote in Ohio to 16%, from 9% in 2000.

“We don’t believe that was an accident,” Mr. Cain said. The IRS filing indicates that the ads are running this year in 10 battleground states, including Ohio, New Mexico, and Nevada.

Mr. Cain, who once managed the Godfather’s Pizza chain and ran unsuccessfully for the Senate from Georgia in 2004, said he was not troubled that Mr. Rooney, who is white, is funding ads using black voices who claim to speak on behalf of the black community.”You don’t have a lot of black billionaires who would want to fund something like this,” he said.

America’s Pac is the brainchild of a Kansas-based Republican consultant, Richard Nadler.He said Sunday that he is no longer affiliated with the group.

http://www.nysun.com/national/republican-group-chides-democrats-with-abortion/41648/


25 posted on 10/23/2011 5:52:40 PM PDT by magritte
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To: drewh

It is SO painful to listen to Bachmann lately. She sounds so desperate and tired. I wish she would just get out already.


26 posted on 10/23/2011 6:03:35 PM PDT by montag813 (SECURE THE DAMN BORDER! http://www.StandWithArizona.com)
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To: magritte

“I typically like to go to other sources besides FR”

For your convenience I will provide a direct link to the article instead of the FR thread that was based on the article.

http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2011/10/21/a-mea-culpa-on-herman-cain-and-abortion/


27 posted on 10/23/2011 6:11:11 PM PDT by 07Jack
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To: McGavin999
If neither Perry nor Bachmann names Cain what makes the MSM so sure they were taking a swipe at him. Sounds to me like the MSM is trying to stir things up.

The media creates a lie about Cain.

A day latter, without using Cain's name, Perry criticizes the senario in that lie.

Perry is slime.

28 posted on 10/23/2011 6:16:29 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: dirtboy

Exactly.


29 posted on 10/23/2011 6:22:00 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

brilliant!


30 posted on 10/23/2011 6:22:46 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: magritte
"I typically like to go to other sources besides FR...here’s a contemporaneous article that contradicts that assertion:"

I do not see anything remotely close to a contradiction from that article. If there is anything there suggesting Cain is not 1000 times more Pro-Life than Perry, please bold or highlight it for the rest of us.

31 posted on 10/23/2011 6:24:53 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: montag813

Yep, Michele has completely lost my respect. There was a story about her running out of money in late September, and as far as I’m concerned, she can’t hit rock bottom soon enough. I’m really starting to dislike her.

The only things keeping me from saying the same about Perry and Santorum are the flat tax and family values respectively, but I’m rapidly losing my patience. They shouldn’t be joining hands with the media to perpetuate a known lie.

If you know you’re on your way out, do what you can for the cause and take Romney with you.


32 posted on 10/23/2011 6:27:30 PM PDT by Cato in PA
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Of course, Cain is NOT 1000 times more pro-life than Perry. That’s an unsupportable assertion. However, I have been told a number of times that Cain has spent $1,000,000 of his own money for pro-life. There is only sourcing to lifesite.news, which itself doesn’t not source it.

Do you have a source to that’s where and how Cain spent or contributed his $1,000,000 ?


33 posted on 10/23/2011 6:28:26 PM PDT by magritte
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To: FreeReign

Seems to me you are the one who is accusing Cain since neither Bachmann nor Perry named him, what makes you so sure they are talking about Cain unless YOU think that about him yourself. Otherwise there is no connection to Cain other then you mind making that connection.


34 posted on 10/23/2011 6:32:56 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: drewh

Did you know that Michele Bachmann had five kids of her own and raised TWENTY THREE foster kids?? I heard that somewhere.


35 posted on 10/23/2011 6:33:03 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: McGavin999
Your post is utter nonsense.
36 posted on 10/23/2011 6:47:27 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: not2worry

Cain isn’t perfect...he has had gaffes himself.

That said, he seems to at least learn from them. Bachmann, not so much.

I am Cain all the way.

I originally was for Perry, but the way he has attacked Cain....frankly, it would be hard to support him if he wins the nomination. I would because I don’t want Obama; it would not be easy the way he is so horrible to the other candidates.


37 posted on 10/23/2011 6:48:55 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: drewh
Romney is NOT the front runner, so this is Romney PROP.
Just another Team Romney DIRTY TRICK.

Backstabbing cowardly leper:
"Do your duty for me. Attack the woman and the black man.
You surrogates will embrace these attacks through the media,
as when you threw elections 2008 and 2010
to the DNC ….. for ME. FOR ME.
Create, then support, the most vicious anti-GOP attacks from our northern lands,
our bought media, and our plants within the Obama team.
I will gain GOP favor by condemning the very same attacks and
ordering them opposed from our lands in the south.
Whichever way the tide runs, we will arise and only I will be left standing.”

38 posted on 10/23/2011 6:52:41 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: drewh

All this is meaningless. Like them as conservatives or not, Perry and Bachman are both very much yesterday’s news. 2012 is over for them.


39 posted on 10/23/2011 6:59:57 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Forget AMEX. Remember your Glock 27: Never Leave Home Without It!)
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To: magritte

“What is the source for Cain spending a million of his own money? What did you do with it? Where did he give it?”

2006 - African American Businessman Spends 1M to Urge Blacks
to Vote Pro-Life

http://www.lifenews.com/2006/09/13/nat-2583/


40 posted on 10/23/2011 7:00:06 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: drewh

It’s also a liberal canard to say that you support parental rights on the one hand, and then try to enact a requirement that parents of girls to be vaccinated with a specific new, highly expensive vaccine that just happens to be produced by one of your campaign contributors.


41 posted on 10/23/2011 7:02:57 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (REWARD!! Return escaped conservatives to the Grand Ol' Plantation. Call and ask for Mitt or Rick)
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To: Cruising For Freedom

If Cain can’t take it from other Republicans what the heck will he do if he should get the nomination?...expect the Dems and Obama to play nice?


42 posted on 10/23/2011 7:05:25 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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43 posted on 10/23/2011 7:06:38 PM PDT by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: montag813
It is SO painful to listen to Bachmann lately. She sounds so desperate and tired. I wish she would just get out already.

It is getting painful, and I like her, too! She's just not ready and needs to set her sights on the senate or something.

It's become a game in our house to take anything she says and somehow associate it to having 28 kids.

When she started talking about "Anchor Babies" in the last debate, I paused it and said, imitating her voice "Anderson, I raised 28 anchor babies..." My wife almost spit her drink across the room.

44 posted on 10/23/2011 7:06:43 PM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: drewh

Cain is not Pro-life and neither is Perry.


45 posted on 10/23/2011 7:08:59 PM PDT by Gipper08 (www.travishankins.com...a real CONSERVATIVE)
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To: Caipirabob

Y’all must be really bored!


46 posted on 10/23/2011 7:14:18 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: FreeReign
I'm sure you criticized Cain for taking race card shots at Perry over the press's infamous rock story too, right?

Of course you did.

There are no clean hands here.

47 posted on 10/23/2011 7:14:27 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelected Obama.)
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To: Gipper08

Herman Cain is personally and politically, 100% Pro-life

He is committed to:
1) Supporting and signing Pro-Life legislation
2) Appointing Pro-Life Supreme Court Justices
3) Defunding Planned Parenthood
4) He is for a Constitutional Amendment banning abortion (as well as gay marriage)
5) He has a HISTORY of active, not just verbal, support of pro-life issues

SOURCES BELOW
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10/22/11 - Herman Cain Exclusive: Tells Brody File He Will Support Constitutional Amendments on Life and Marriage
http://blogs.cbn.com/thebrodyfile/archive/2011/10/22/herman-cain-exclusive-tells-brody-file-he-will-support-constitutional.aspx

10/21/11 - National Right To Life: Cain is Fully Pro Life
http://www.lifenews.com/2011/10/21/national-right-to-life-herman-cain-is-fully-pro-life/

6/24/11 - National Right to Life Conference Speech
http://hermancainissues.com/speeches/right-to-life-conference-speech-62411/

Herman Cain on Abortion
http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Herman_Cain_Abortion.htm

2006 - African American Businessman Spends 1M to Urge Blacks to Vote Pro-Life
http://www.lifenews.com/2006/09/13/nat-2583/

5/11 - Herman Cain Reaffirms Commitment to Pro-Life Principles
http://secure.campaigner.com/Campaigner/Public/t.show?LVMF—8Oz3-WCSgU7

10/17/11 - Cain Picks Clarence Thomas as Model for Supreme Court Pick
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/232604/20111017/herman-cain-clarence-thomas-supreme-court.htm

2004 - Herman Cain blasts Roe v. Wade (Free Republic - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/1063707/posts

5/17/11 - Alveda King - Yes. In our many conversations Mr. Cain has remained solid for life, marriage and family.
http://www.priestsforlife.org/africanamerican/blog/index.php/is-herman-cain-pro-life

1/18/11 - Herman Cain: Defund Racist Planned Parenthood Abortion Biz
http://www.lifenews.com/2011/01/18/herman-cain-defund-racist-planned-parenthood-abortion-biz/

2004 - Herman Cain was endorsed by the Georgia Right-To-Life PAC in the 2004 US Senate GOP primary.

________________

Life, liberty & pursuit of happiness starts with unborn life
The Founding Fathers got it right. The Founding Fathers got it right because of those fundamental principles: life,
liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. They also got it in the right order. That wasn’t an accident. Their vision meant that you could pursue happiness in America as long as you don’t infringe upon the liberties of somebody else. And
you can pursue all the liberties that you want as long as you don’t infringe upon the life of anybody else. And that
starts with the life of the unborn.
Source: , May 1, 2011
_________________

Defund Planned Parenthood; intent was to kill black babies
I absolutely would defund Planned Parenthood—not because I don’t believe in planning parenthood, [but because]
Planned Parenthood as an organization is an absolute farce on the American people.

People who know the history of Margaret Sanger, who started Planned Parenthood, they know that the intention was not to help young women who get pregnant to plan their parenthood. No—it was a sham to be able to kill black babies.
Source: Interview on the Bryan Fischer radio show , Jan 18, 2011
_____________

I believe that life begins at conception, period. And that means that I will have to see enough evidence that someone
would appoint shares that same view. I believe that the current Supreme Court is leaning too much to the liberal side. ...there is no way I would compromise my religious beliefs about the sanctity of life. And so it starts with, will they have demonstrated, in some of their other rulings, if they come from the federal judge bench, whether or not they also share that.

Because I believe that the principles that our Founding Fathers cherished, when they founded this country, and wrote the Declaration of Independence which inspired the Constitution, they were based upon biblical principles. I want to get back to those principles as president, if I run and get elected—not rewrite those documents.
ontheissues.org


48 posted on 10/23/2011 7:32:47 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: justsaynomore

Okay, the article is dated 9/13/06, which is good. The money was spent on a radio campaign in 2006, with the $1 million dollars mentioned.

From this article:

“Cain will underscore that message with a $1 million advertising campaign in key states and congressional districts targeting black radio programs and urban radio stations young African Americans enjoy. Some of the ads focus on abortion.”

One could imply that perhaps Cain is funding it from this statement, however...


The ads are funded by Americas PAC, a Cain-backed organization, which former Al Gore campaign manager Donna Brazile said did a great job in turning out black pro-life votes.

So, obviously, Cain contributed money to this PAC to be used for the ads...however...


From another source snip:

“According to a report filed with the Internal Revenue Service, a company reportedly tied to Mr. Rooney, Woodland Group LLC, gave $900,000 to America’s PAC earlier this year. Other donors chipped in about $32,000.”

America’s PAC is a 527. It spent around $650,000 on media in 2006. Herman Cain was the spokesman. From the article:

Mr. Cain, who once managed the Godfather’s Pizza chain and ran unsuccessfully for the Senate from Georgia in 2004, said he was not troubled that Mr. Rooney, who is white, is funding ads using black voices who claim to speak on behalf of the black community.”You don’t have a lot of black billionaires who would want to fund something like this,” he said.

Bottom line: There is no evidence that Cain personally spent $1,000,000 of his own money for the pro-life based on the article you sourced.

Source below:

A little-known Republican group that claims to have swayed the 2004 presidential election with provocative radio advertising aimed at black and Hispanic audiences is spending nearly $1 million this year to boost the GOP’s chances of holding on to a majority in Congress.

The group, America’s Pac, began running ads last month in more than two dozen congressional districts.The campaign discusses issues ranging from warrantless wiretapping to school choice, but the most inflammatory spots pertain to abortion.

“Black babies are terminated at triple the rate of white babies,” a female announcer in one of the ads says, as rain, thunder, and a crying infant are heard in the background. “The Democratic Party supports these abortion laws that are decimating our people, but the individual’s right to life is protected in the Republican platform. Democrats say they want our vote.Why don’t they want our lives?”

Another ad features a dialogue between two men.

“If you make a little mistake with one of your ‘hos,’ you’ll want to dispose of that problem tout suite, no questions asked,” one of the men says.

“That’s too cold. I don’t snuff my own seed,” the other replies.

“Maybe you do have a reason to vote Republican,” the first man says.

Another spot attempts to link Democrats to a white supremacist who served as a Republican in the Louisiana Legislature, David Duke.The ad makes reference to Duke’s trip to Syria last year, where he spoke at an anti-war rally.

“I can understand why a Ku Klux Klan cracker like David Duke makes nice with the terrorists,”a male voice in the ad says. “What I want to know is why so many of the Democrat politicians I helped elect are on the same side of the Iraq war as David Duke.”

In one of the communities where the ads are running, South Bend, Ind.,some blacks were outraged.

“They’re awful.They’re repulsive,” a Democratic activist and community leader in South Bend, Gladys Muhammad, said. “When they say Democrats don’t like black babies, that’s damn fools.They’re very insensitive.”

“This is so dirty, but it works,” a sociology professor at Indiana University, Johnnie Griffin, said. “These are race ads. It’s incredible.”

While Ms. Griffin said she felt insulted by the ads, she also said a student in her class reported that a relative was thinking of switching to the Republican Party because of them. “Black people are more conservative than anybody thinks. We do have strong family values that people don’t seem to stress as much,” the professor said.

Ms. Griffin said a community meeting is planned for Friday to discuss the ad campaign. The key financial backer of America’s Pac is J. Patrick Rooney, 78, of Indianapolis. Mr. Rooney, a strong proponent of school choice scholarship programs, retired in 1996 as chairman of Golden Rule Insurance. The company was sold to larger insurer, United-Health Group, in 2003 for a reported $893 million.

According to a report filed with the Internal Revenue Service, a company reportedly tied to Mr. Rooney, Woodland Group LLC, gave $900,000 to America’s PAC earlier this year. Other donors chipped in about $32,000.

Mr. Rooney declined to be interviewed yesterday. The group referred calls from The New York Sun to a conservative, African-American talk show host who voiced some of the ads, Herman Cain.

“The main thing that America’s Pac is up to is it basically is challenging the thesis or the belief on the part of the Republican Party that they cannot attract the black vote,” Mr. Cain said. He said similar advertisements run in 2004 helped boost President Bush’s share of the black vote in Ohio to 16%, from 9% in 2000.

“We don’t believe that was an accident,” Mr. Cain said. The IRS filing indicates that the ads are running this year in 10 battleground states, including Ohio, New Mexico, and Nevada.

Mr. Cain, who once managed the Godfather’s Pizza chain and ran unsuccessfully for the Senate from Georgia in 2004, said he was not troubled that Mr. Rooney, who is white, is funding ads using black voices who claim to speak on behalf of the black community.”You don’t have a lot of black billionaires who would want to fund something like this,” he said.

America’s Pac is the brainchild of a Kansas-based Republican consultant, Richard Nadler.He said Sunday that he is no longer affiliated with the group.

http://www.nysun.com/national/republican-group-chides-democrats-with-abortion/41648/


49 posted on 10/23/2011 7:34:15 PM PDT by magritte
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To: magritte

” Do you have a source to that’s where and how Cain spent or contributed his $1,000,000 ? “

The LifeNews article is poorly constructed.
It implies that America’s PAC paid for the ads , but, describing it
as a “ Cain backed “ group could give the impression
that Cain was the major donor.

The 527 PAC filing is here http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/527/americas_pac.asp
The Republican Leadership Coalition contributed almost a million
to the PAC in 2004.

Cain’s name does not appear in the contributions ledger.
The expense side lists this :
A new Voice
825 Fairways Court
#303
Stockbridge, GA 30281 $1,000 Spokesperson services 11/04/2004

A New Voice is the company owned by Gloria and Herman Cain.
More info about America’s PAC donors here
http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?strID=C00184143


50 posted on 10/23/2011 7:39:14 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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