Skip to comments.Cain Nomination Would End GOP Race Issue Forever
Posted on 10/23/2011 6:58:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
...In the 18 days between the Sept. 22 and Oct. 11 Republican debates, Cain granted interviews to six broadcast-network programs, the Media Research Center reports, plus 18 national cable-TV news shows. Cain appeared twice on CNN, thrice on the Fox Business Network, and 11 times on the Fox News Channel. He also butted heads with an especially confrontational Lawrence O'Donnell on MSNBC on October 6...
Since Ronald Reagan left Washington in 1989, Republicans have yearned for a presidential nominee who could present free-market ideas with passion, energy, and commitment. They have longed for someone who would labor for limited government.
And they have sunk into disappointment and simmered in rage as two generations of Bushes surrendered to their patrician instincts by ducking fights and letting the left bludgeon them until they barely had a cheek left to turn.
Herman Cain embodies the Reagan approach. He is confident, tough, and combative, yet sunny, funny, and buoyant. Cain permanently could demolish the Democrats' vile, vulgar lie that the GOP is the Vatican of U.S. racism.
Those who oppose President Barack Obama are not wrong, misinformed, or misguided; rather they are bigoted, Democrats too often contend. Last month, Rep. Andre Carson, D-Ind., claimed that pro-tea party Republicans in Congress want to see blacks "hanging on a tree."
If Republicans nominate Cain, the Democrats' default argument against the Right utterly implodes. Liberals then might have to battle conservatives on the merits.
Cain does not need to win 60 percent or even 40 percent of the black electorate. If 20 percent to 25 percent of black voters support this successful, self-made son of a maid and a chauffeur, the Democratic base dissolves, and victory belongs to Cain and many down-ballot Republicans wise enough to clutch his coat tails.
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Deroy - you have it all wrong.
If the pubbies nominate Cain it BECAUSE they are racist.
Psss!! Hey buddy? Wanna buy some real nice watches?
Clarence Thomas’ nomination worked so well to dispell that myth didn’t it?
Right. Just like the GOP backing Clarence Thomas for the last 20 years has.
I think it would do more to wake up many Blacks into realizing they are backing the wrong party.
The attacks on the GOP for racism would grow exponentially in an effort to get them back on the plantation.
Kinda thought the election of Obama would do that. LOL
Two points. The Republicans fought against slavery and Jim Crow and southern DEMOCRAT oppression of blacks for a hundred years. Did that end the race issue? Hell, no. The Democrats and their prostitute press just lied about it, until most people forgot history.
Second, I am NOT voting for or against anyone on account of race, or sex, or anything of that kind. I don’t care WHAT race or sex. I’m voting for them because they are the best candidate. Or I’m voting against them because they are the worst candidate.
I know this is well meant, but I’m really bothered by it. Herman Cain stands and falls on his own merits.
Sure, the Democrats play the race card, lying their heads off about it as they do so. I don’t think we need to get sucked into that game.
Racial issues are the dems bread and butter!
Yup, that and having the first black female Secretary of State , that helped us too. </s>
Truth be told, nominating Cain won't do it, but if he wins and takes at least 10% of the black vote .... then I think we have something. The DNC race card will finally have an expiration date.
That is a really BAD reason to elect Herman. There are many better reasons.
As long as the media and the democrats are in charge of definitions, the conservatives will always be the villains.
Armstrong Williams wont say if he did but he certainly gave reason to vote for Obama.
J.C. Watts waffled
Condoleeza Rice defended Obama during the election.
Colin Powell endorsed the SOB
It wouldn't even surprise me if Cain voted for him.
We are the party of principle, and whether Cain gets the nomination or not, we will always be demonized as racist because we expect everyone to pull their own weight.
Cain's pandering to inner city blacks in his Empowerment Zone's in which he said himself he favored specifically because blacks lived there and later in the same interview he liked the idea because they were predominately African American (but I think he prefers to be called black, he just calls other blacks African Americans I guess). He believes in social justice too. Government leveling the playing field by giving certain colors certain benefits.
The interview of Cain I am talking about was on OCT.14th on CNN.
The entire article is full of interesting possibilities about the formidable Herman Cain, Deroy has some good points.
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Freeing the slaves will end the GOP race issue forever.
...spoketh the Perrybot.
So far four Democrats here have told me that Republicans would NEVER pick Cain, instead they will pick Romney who Obama will point out is a flip-flopping phony.
Oh, are we now dividing the races on Free Republic? I judge everyone on their character, not the color of their skins. I am white. Do you want to make something of it? I work a minimum of eight hours a day on the computer for Herman Cain. That race has even been brought up on your post is offensive to me. Maybe I’d better find another forum to log onto.
Supplying the deciding votes for the ERA will end the GOP race issue forever.
Just finished a great book on the subject - Setting the record straight: American history in Black & White by David Barton.
Most Black Americans today know NOTHING about Black History earlier than MLK and Malcom X. If they did, none of them would be Democrats, Ever.
The Democrats were clearly the pro-slavery party in the 1800s, and following the Civil War the Democrats fought against giving black Americans any Civil Rights and did everything to prevent blacks from being a part of the political process which is why they formed the KKK to intimidate blacks and whites from voting for pro-civil rights Republicans. And for over 100 years Democrats in congress voted time and time and time again Against any civil rights legislation proposed by Republicans.
Democrats today still have Blacks in a form of slavery, by twisting their knowledge of history. And their new Slave Master is keepings them in Want, and the Government being the provider.
Did you know?
The First Blacks In Congress Were All Republicans
United States Senate
Hiram Rhodes Revels (1822-1901); Republican Mississippi; 1870-1871
Blanche Bruce (1841-1898); Republican Mississippi; 1875-1881
House of Representatives
John Willis Menard (1838-1893); Republican - Louisiana; 1868
Joseph Rainey (1832-1887); Republican - South Carolina; 1870-1879
Jefferson F. Long (1836-1901); Republican Georgia; 1870-1871
Robert C. De Large (1842-1874); Republican - South Carolina; 1871-1873
Robert B. Elliott (1842-1884); Republican - South Carolina; 1871-1874
Benjamin S. Turner (1825-1894); Republican Alabama; 1871-1873
Josiah T. Walls (1842-1905); Republican Florida; 1871-1873, 1873-1875, 1875-1876
Richard H. Cain (1825-1887); Republican - South Carolina; 1873-1875, 1877-1879
John R. Lynch (1847-1939); Republican Mississippi; 1873-1877, 1882-1883
James T. Rapier (1837-1883); Republican Alabama; 1873-1875
Alonzo J. Ransier (1834-1882); Republican - South Carolina; 1873-1875
Jeremiah Haralson (1846-1916); Republican - Alabama; 1875-1877
John Adams Hyman (1840-1891); Republican - North Carolina; 1875-1877
Charles E. Nash (1844-1913); Republican Louisiana; 1875-1877
Robert Smalls (1839-1915); Republican - South Carolina; 1875-1879, 1882-1883, 1884-1887
James E. OHara (1844-1905); Republican - North Carolina; 1883-1887
Henry P. Cheatham (1857-1935); Republican - North Carolina; 1889-1893
John Mercer Langston (1829-1897); Republican Virginia; 1890-1891
Thomas E. Miller(1849-193); Republican - South Carolina; 1890-1891
George W. Murray (1853-1926); Republican - South Carolina; 1893-1895, 1896-1897
George Henry White (1852-1918); Republican - North Carolina; 1897-1901
The Democrats did not elect their first black American to the U.S. House until 1935, and he was from the North. The Southern Democrats waited until 1973. The first Black Senator was not elected until 1993.
what is interesting to me is that if the Republicans nominate Cain it will be because he was the best person for the job and not some sort of affirmative action crap.
At this point, I’ll vote for Cain because I trust him and that’s good enough.
He’s just the kind of guy I think I could spend an afternoon with, sitting in the shade shooting the breeze.
Where os the Marva Collins when we need her? Now there was a good teacher!
By the way, where's the mockery of Deroy because of the oddity of his name - standard fare here among some.
I back Herman Cain because I see him as the most conservative candidate running, nothing at all to do with his skin tone.
That race has even been brought up on your post is offensive to me. Maybe Id better find another forum to log onto.
I'd rather you wouldn't but that's a personal decision, only you can make. The knives are coming out against Cain and he needs defenders against slander, on this forum as well as others.
I am looking for the next President of the United States. I felt betrayed when Powell endorsed Obama because I thought he was principled. The Obama candidacy opened my eyes to the color trumps ideology.
I have heard Cain speak about his blackness and I personally researched his church by simply going to it's website. Herman Cain preaches there too so it is important to check these things out. Anyone can tell you what you want to hear.
Do I think Cain is generally conservative? Yes. Do I think he thinks in terms of color? Absolutely and I got that by listening to him when he's not stumping to Tea Party crowds.
When you say you like Empowerment Zones because they are in predominately black areas, it tells me you have a bias and I believe it will carry to the Whitehouse. Understand something too Empowerment Zones, which Cain has now switched to Opportunity Zones, because Empowerment sounds too liberal (his words), are not broad based but targeted regions designed to transfer work and wealth from one are to another. One zip code pays the bills, the zip code next door doesn't.
Go to his church website. Antiocnorth.org and click on his pastor and read his pastors own words about justice and we need to quit expecting blacks to do something but ask what government needs to do because Jesus said "the first will be last and the last will be first". You go and read it yourself, don't take my word for it.
Cain not only preaches there but is very close friend with the pastor. I find all that to be bothersome to me. If it doesn't trouble you ,no problem, that is your prerogative.
Ronald Reagan was a successful two-term Governor of California and a highly successful two-term President. Reagan had a record of achievement and accomplishment unmatched in recent times. Reagan was able to advance conservatism under extreme conditions and fight off the forces of the liberal establishment. We knew all about Reagan, the good, the bad and the ugly. Reagan was in the public spotlight for 45 years when he finally was elected President.
Herman Cain has some good conservative qualities. Problem is, we know nothing about how Cain would govern or legislate. Why? Cain has no record with which to judge him on. Period! All we have to go by is what Cain says he would do in his public statements. And the more statements Cain makes, the more scrutiny he will receive and the more questions people will have of him.
Hummm..Now let me get this straight. You are disturbed because I am offended that race is the subject of this thread? Maybe you should read my post again. I simply do not think in terms of race. I don’t think anyone else should either.
“Cain Nomination Would End GOP Race Issue Forever”
No, it wouldn’t. Professional race baiters will all have to die (natural deaths) and then probably the next generation too before that poison is leached out of the black community.
Memories sure get short when it comes to a favorite candidate, eh? Here’s a blast from the past!
Posted on Sun Jan 14 2007 22:22:51 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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I m not aware of Herman Cain committing slander. He rarely speaks about anything but what he, Herman Cain would do as president, or how he would repair any problems America faces today. He admits his mistakes and learns by them. I think he has done very well for a “civilian”, don’t you?
I thought electing Obama was going to end the race issue forever?
Nothing will end the race issue so long as the racemongers and poverty pimps can use it for money and power.
Hummm, you'll have to cite me where I said that. I'm not disturbed that you are considering leaving this thread at all. I simply said, I'd rather you didn't.
It's not good to argue with one who is agreeing with you, even complementing you by telling you that you and your input would be missed. What I did say was, "that's a personal decision".
I also said this, which is also in agreement with what you said: "I back Herman Cain because I see him as the most conservative candidate running, nothing at all to do with his skin tone".
Hey, when Cain gets elected, they fear this gambit will be turned on them.
Every time they complain about his conservative policies, we will tell the Slave Party members that we know that they are really only up to their old tricks: They insisting that the black man follow their orders.
I sorta like Herman Cain's merits.
This has been a very long day. My poor little Boston Terrier needs my attention. I’m sorry if I became a little testy. God bless.
I don’t consider it my job to prove I’m not racist.
Rabid allegations by brainless liberals don’t merit wasting time arguing with them.
I hope Cain continues to do well.
“Cain Nomination Would End GOP Race Issue Forever”
And I suppose the Emancipation Proclamation doesn’t count because Lincoln didn’t free all the slaves. He only free slaves in the States that were “in rebellion against the United States”, except the Parishes of St. Bernard, Plaquemines, Jefferson, St. John, St. Charles, St. James Ascension, Assumption, Terrebonne, Lafourche, St. Mary, St. Martin, and Orleans, including the City of New Orleans in Louisiana.
But more contemporaneously, just how do we define “black” today?
When Nobel Prize winning poet Tony Morrison can write an October 1988 New Yorker article titled “Clinton as the first black president”, then what is “black”? When the NAACP calls the black conservative Kenneth Gladney, “not black enough”, and “not a brother” then what is “black”? When Time magazine’s Jack White calls Supreme Court Justice Thomas, “the scariest of all the hobgoblins”, saying “Washington seems to be filled with white men who make black people uneasy”, than what is “black”? And when Obama, a man whose mother is Caucasian, can tell us in a widely read autobiography that in his youth he struggled with his racial identity before *deciding* to be black, what is “black”?
When Bill Maher, during a panel discussion on HBO complains that Obama’s policies are “half-assed” “because hes only half black.” and that “if he was fully black, Im telling you, he would be a better president.”, and that “there’s a white man in him holding him back”, than what is “black”?
Indeed, on October 20, 2011, Pam Spaulding at Firedoglake wrote about two prominent Republicans who happen to be black:
“But back to race. Ill never understand Herman Cain and his relationship to the GOP establishment; like former puppet Michael Steele, they dont see (or dont care) how rancid race-based politics in the Republican party has become [T]he Republican leadership has made its bed with the fundamentalists and nativist know-nothings, making Cain and other black Republicans curious cases that border on self-loathing.”
CNN’s Soledad OBrien writes of a private meeting in 2007 with Jesse Jackson in her book, The Next Big Story. During the meeting, Jackson complained to OBrien, whose mother is a black woman from Cuba, that there werent any black anchors on CNN. She wrote, “He looks me in the eye and reaches his fingers over to tap a spot of skin on my right hand. He shakes his head. You dont count, he says.” She closed the section with “[t]he arbiter of blackness had weighed in. I had been measured and found wanting.”
When the results of an August 2010 Missouri ballot proposition directing that state to protect its citizens from being forced into ObamaCare were announced and the voter sentiment scored a record for beings such a lopsided adoption of the provision, Juan Williams complained on Fox News this was really about race.
And Dr. Cornel West, whose official web site describes him as “a prominent and provocative democratic intellectual”, was the subject of an article in the May 18, 2011 Washington Post. Reporter Krissah Thompson opened with, “Scholar Cornel Wests scathing critique of President Obamas liberal bona fides in a series of recent interviews has ignited a furious debate among African American bloggers and commentators.”
References to race, and especially to “black”, in all these contexts, is clearly not about “race”. It is about ideology, socialist ideology.
As far as I am concerned, we are all made in the image of God. I agree with Martin Luther King, that people should be judged on the content of their character and not on the color of their skin. With respect to BHO: it is not about the race he was born with, it is about the ideology he adopted. It is not what percent black he is, it is about how thoroughly red he is. Sadly, in the minds of many liberals (er, now “progressives”), Herman Cain is not black.
We can't win that issue no matter what.
C’mon, Normy. For someone who claims to have Cain as his second choice, you go out of your way to bash him and align yourself with the hardcore Perrybots. Anybody who claims to support Perry as a “Conservative” has precious little credibility to criticize true Conservative candidates.
We should be so lucky
Wat race issue?
That sure ended the GOP race issue forever. /s
I wonder if he likes to go fishing. That I consider a sign of character.