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More suburban, middle class slide into poverty
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | Updated: October 24, 2011 6:23AM | Francine Knowles

Posted on 10/24/2011 4:40:46 AM PDT by Graybeard58

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To: Graybeard58

These type articles should inquire who the dummies voted for.


21 posted on 10/24/2011 5:47:45 AM PDT by biggredd1
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To: PeteB570

I saw people buying lobster tail and shrimp on EBT, see it is all just seafood.


22 posted on 10/24/2011 5:49:03 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Poison Pill; central_va
followed her, not to closely, just to see the vehicle

I've done this on occasion too. The best I saw was one driving a new Mercedes SLK

23 posted on 10/24/2011 5:54:37 AM PDT by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga
I've done this on occasion too. The best I saw was one driving a new Mercedes SLK

I have a checklist:

  1. Better vehicle
  2. Better food
  3. Better cell phone
  4. More kids

All four is a grand slam....

24 posted on 10/24/2011 5:57:32 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
It must be very discouraging for people who can’t find work.

Yet there are jobs. I just looked at AT&T's web site and I saw seven openings in retail in Aurora. Just looking at one company and one category retail - a category that dos NOT need much training. You have to wonder how hard these people are looking and how willing they are to do what it takes.

25 posted on 10/24/2011 6:04:44 AM PDT by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Graybeard58

Call it The Silent Depression. Because our lifestyles and technology mean that most of the affected don’t have to stand in soup lines or hop trains and become fodder for press cameras doesn’t mean that the destructive, pervasive effects of statism aren’t happening. It’s also Silent because a small cadre of broadcasters with an ongoing vested interest in supporting statism can and will ignore the true state of affairs - whatever it takes to assist their favored party and politicians.

Urban dwellers have always been exposed to, and therefore comfortable with, a bifurcated society. Walking past a blighted building on their way to the office or encountering a man in rags begging for change is part of their everyday landscape. As long as they arrive at their destination and voice their hypocritical concern about such things all is well. But the suburbs are a different story. The suburbs, despite being mocked by urban dwellers, are the most American and egalitarian of environments with ‘just enough’ retail, housing, green space and other institutions. Market forces are strongest in the suburbs which is why failed enterprises are a) allowed to fail and b) are replaced by newer, better ideas and enterprises. This natural progression ensures that the tax base over which statists obsess will replenish itself.

But statism as practiced and enforced by urban dwellers, as always, upsets this balance. Laws, regulations and wrongheaded attempts to impose policies that *might* make some sense in a city but make no sense in a suburb invariably introduce man-made imbalances that the market cannot correct, especially where individuals and institutions face prosecution for attempting to do so! From section 8 housing to silly ‘green transportation’ boondoggles to hyper-specific land use laws, statism applies solutions where there are no extant problems.

Advancements in medicine, psychology and communications still are no match for a mass psychosis that finds urban dwellers - who have already brought Fritz Lang’s ‘Metropolis’ to life - attempting to impose their flawed, fatalistic system on the rest of us.


26 posted on 10/24/2011 6:06:22 AM PDT by relictele (Pax Quaeritur Bello)
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To: Graybeard58

If you can’t make it more than three months without a job, then you’re not “middle class,” you’re “working class,” regardless of how much money you make or how nice your house and car are.


27 posted on 10/24/2011 6:07:01 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: central_va
Well she definitely had easier to prepare food. I was buying a package of chicken, and she had frozen entrees of some sort. Dunno if it would be better or not. I'm pretty good in the kitdchen. Better car is a toss up mine was more expensive originally, but it's 5 years old nad hers was new. I didn't see her cell phone, and the two seater sports car she was driving didn't have any kids in it. However, she had some of the most elaborately decorated nails that I've seen in a while.

You can always tell that those who separate out the dog food, beer, and wine from the rest of the groceries are going to pay by EBT. And its usually the largest bag of dog food that the store carries.

28 posted on 10/24/2011 6:12:59 AM PDT by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: central_va
Don't be too terribly quick to judge. My son and daughter-in-law were foster parents, wanting to adopt 3 adorable brothers, and the boys were eligible for WIC and other benefits as foster kids. The two babies had never lived with the drug-addict mother, but when they were 18 months old, the county (in it's infinite wisdom /s) decided to give them back to the mother. Those poor kids don't have a chance in life.
29 posted on 10/24/2011 6:19:42 AM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: Aunt Polgara
My son and daughter-in-law were foster parents

Perhaps people without the means to support foster children should abstain form their charity. What is noble about that?

30 posted on 10/24/2011 6:22:15 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Gray, it’s not a good idea to follow people in the store. Some folks are more aware of their surroundings than you think and you may have the facts right but still come to a wrong conclusion. My uncle has dementia. I or someone takes him to the grocery store and pays for his food with his food stamps. An observer might see me and my SUV and think “shame, shame” but they’d be wrong about what’s going on.


31 posted on 10/24/2011 6:32:42 AM PDT by stellaluna
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To: stellaluna

I am not following anyone. The EBT/WIC thieves were right in front of me checking out. All I did was look around the parking lot, which is public.


32 posted on 10/24/2011 6:39:35 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
Love to start a web site with pictures of the “poor” using EBT/WIC.

With 0 stickers to boot.

33 posted on 10/24/2011 6:41:13 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (2012—They vote twice— we'll vote three times.)
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To: stellaluna
I or someone takes him to the grocery store and pays for his food with his food stamps.

Sorry his family(you) should be taking care of him not the taxpayer.

34 posted on 10/24/2011 6:42:36 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Clintonfatigued; Liz; Impy; fieldmarshaldj

I have noticed an uptick in the amount of panhandlers at busy intersections.

Also, the amount of vacant storefronts on Newbury St. in Boston is staggering. Me and the g/f went yesterday and were surprised.

OTOH, this past weekend the “Head of the Charles” Regatta was held and I never saw so many people in attendance (no I didn’t go, just drove by on the way to Boston) and there were many out of state license plates on the vehicles.

So, as with most things, YMMV.


35 posted on 10/24/2011 6:47:05 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (And who doesn't have baggage?)
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To: Graybeard58
He plans to enroll in truck driver training program to improve his prospects of landing work.

Yeah...he will make $80,000 a year hauling FRACKING TOXIC CHEMICALS (salt water, vinegar and sand for those in Rio Vista) in the Balkkan oil fields of North Dakota.

36 posted on 10/24/2011 7:02:06 AM PDT by spokeshave (Obama's ratings are so low...Kenyans accuse him of being born in the USA,)
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To: central_va

Only if tax laws are changed and spending is drastically cut. The current system works the cost of social services into everything we buy. But fundamentally I agree with you.

The CPI has risen dramatically along with energy costs and is squeezing those who depend on government assistance. That cost is passed onto you and me in the form of budget deficits.

We need businesses to spend more on growth and they won’t do that until we have a new administration, one that is friendly to business both large and small.


37 posted on 10/24/2011 7:03:37 AM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: RockyMtnMan
The CPI has risen dramatically along with energy costs and is squeezing those who depend on government assistance.

You might have it backwards. Free money is chasing food and fuel. Free money has no value so the "poor" buy things like lobster and shrimp and are obese to boot. This is what is causing inflation. Too many dollars chasing to few goods. Since the WIC/EBT thieves don't earn the money the food has decreasing value but increasing price.

38 posted on 10/24/2011 7:10:03 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
Perhaps people without the means to support foster children should abstain form their charity. What is noble about that?

Actually, they have plenty of means and didn't have any idea that they would be elegible for all the perks when they started the adoption process. No one said they were trying to be noble. They are unable to have children of their own, so they went the adoption route. They would have gladly given up the perks to be able to adopt the boys.

They were in what's called a fost-adopt program that was meant to give permanent homes to kids. Unfortunately, the social worker's attitude was reunite with the birth parents no matter what the situation is. The newborn twins tested positive for meth, and were taken away at birth, along with their 18 month old brother, who had been living with the birth mother. Now they are back with her and have no chance at life. They lived with my son and his wife for a year, before they were snatched back to live with the birth mom.

39 posted on 10/24/2011 7:13:04 AM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: Graybeard58

“...worked for 10 years—a job that paid $17 an hour and that with the consistent overtime and $4,000 and $5,000 annual Christmas bonuses...”

And, never put away a dime in savings over 10 years, so he and his kid end up in a shelter after 14 months on unemployment benefits. It’s fools like him that want the rest of us who work and save to pay for his comforts and ease. I’m not amused.


40 posted on 10/24/2011 7:15:45 AM PDT by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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