Skip to comments.Kagan on faith, the high court and hunting
Posted on 10/24/2011 5:56:10 AM PDT by marktwain
"It was good, not great," she said of the ceremony. "It was not exactly what my brother had done, which is what I wanted. But the experience shaped my life, negotiating with Rabbi Riskin. It was a formative experience, and I guess I've always been a striver."
That drive led her to the job that she says "is now my life's work," a place she expects to stay for some time. Despite never having been a judge before, Kagan said the transition has been in some ways easier than she expected.
"Was I nervous, sure," she said of her first days on the bench. "But then I just starting speaking (during oral arguments) and I noticed, oh look, words are coming out of my mouth, and I think I'm making sense. I can do this."
Her colleagues too, she said, have been enormously supportive, and have even opened new worlds for her.
She recalled paying a courtesy call on Sen. James Risch (R-Idaho) shortly after her nomination to the court by President Obama in May 2010. Risch asked her about gun rights, and remarked she may not realize how important the issue was to some Americans, especially in his home state.
She admitted never having owned or fired a gun before. "But I told the senator if I was fortunate enough to be confirmed, I would go hunting with Justice Scalia."
And she has, joining her conservative colleague on an excursion to a Washington-area shooting range and on several hunting trips, until now never reported. Her host at the synagogue event was surprised.
"You're Jewish," deadpanned Rabbi Mitchell Wohlberg.
"Yeah, but it turns out, it's kind of fun," said Kagan, laughing.
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Sure, if you accept that the 2nd Amendment is about hunting...
I hope so, I pray so...
...But I doubt it.
I would be shocked if Kagan would vote to affirm Second Amendment rights.
Besides, the issue now is not if the Second Amendment is an individual right (that is settled law) but what restrictions are "reasonable" on the Second Amendment.
In the end, an elitist, like Kagan, will see most restrictions as "reasonable".
But this is why you must love Scalia for taking her to the range!!!!
A long shot (pardon the pun), but not impossible. I saw a German exchange student once go from frothing-at-the-mouth gun opponent to wild-eyed gun nut (said he would join the German army when he got home just to be able to shoot again) after one afternoon at the range. Simply put, he had previously never held or used a gun in his life, and then one day he did, and it radically changed his mind. Very sly move on Scalia’s part...
Kagan has no more business being on the Supreme Court than Obama has being in the White House.
Don’t be fooled by this puff piece, she is liberal to the bone, and that means she is anti-gun.
If Kagan were to vanish they could replace her with Patten Oswalt and no one would notice.
I will never listen, consider, or obey anything this lunatic bull dyke has to say.
More propaganda to make her look like a normal person.
They want us to “like” her so we don’t scream that she is biased and has no right to vote on Obamacare.
They think we are as stupid as their supporters and will believe all their lies.
Obama can thank the color of his skin that he isn’t fighting impeachment proceedings right now.
I like Scalia’s approach here.
Who the heck is this Rabbi, especially if he doesn't know that.
"History has shown few things as clearly as the positive aspects of Jews being armed, trained in the use of arms and having a willingness to use arms in their own defense."
I couldn't agree more with you about Jews and arms - or any other long-oppressed minority, for that matter. Having weapons and the willingness and ability to use them makes any person or group far less likely to be a victim of a crime. I cringe whenever I hear of a rabbi making a statement like that, because so learned a person should know damned well that Jewish law makes it an obligation to defend one's life (how can you do good deeds if you're dead? How can you have any continuity from one generation to the next if you die and either don't have kids, or the kids die or aren't educated because you're not there to attend to it?).
FYI, I read an op-ed piece by this guy. He says he's Orthodox (which usually means more politically conservative), and also that he did NOT vote for Obama. http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0410/wholberg_obama.php3 He claims to be a Jacksonian Democrat (i.e. hard-line on foreign policy, but not much else).
However, that doesn't speak to his stance on guns. Note that from an Orthodox point of view, hunting for food is prohibited unless you are starving - because the method of killing the animal (by trapping, or shooting, whether by arrow, bullet or shot) is not kosher. There is a strictly-followed method of selecting an animal for slaughter (it must be disease free) and it must be killed by having its throat sliced at the carotid artery with a very sharp knife with no nicks in its blade (all this to reduce the animal's suffering). Therefore, Jews traditionally did not hunt, strongly moving Jews as a group away from ownership and use of weapons. Further distancing Jews from weapons has been a centuries'-long prohibition on Jews being armed by the Moslems and by most European nations. Of course, to me the latter reason makes it all the more imperative for Jews to be armed, so as to take advantage of the ability to practice this most basic of rights, and to reduce the persecution and ridicule that usually accompany weakness. Israel has also been a shining example - its enemies are legion, and not at all hesitant about attacking at weak points - but they generally don't f^*# head-on with the IDF because Israel has and will protect itself. It has grudging respect from most Arabs for this, even as their burning hatred of Israel's very existence never dies. This is little different for a nation than for individuals - weak people are victimized and ridiculed (pre-victimization?) far more than those who are strong.
Anyhow, I attend an Orthodox synogogue and not only do I carry whenever there, so do several others (that I know of - there are probably more) including the Rabbi. I can't speak to other issues, but regarding guns this guy Wohlberg has his head firmly emplaced somewhere that the Big Guy never intended for it to be.
Let's hope Justice Scalia invites Dick Cheney too
She should not be on the court in the first place.
Hunting for sport is the problem, not being armed to protect yourself.
My understanding is that it’s a cruelty to animals thing.