Skip to comments.Steve Jobs Shocker: Bill Gates Should Have Dropped Acid
Posted on 10/24/2011 10:59:42 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
Steve Jobs called long-time rival and Microsoft Corp co-founder Bill Gates as "unimaginative" and not really a product person, according to a biography of the deceased Apple Inc chief executive.
"Bill is basically unimaginative and has never invented anything, which is why I think he's more comfortable now in philanthropy than technology," Jobs told author Walter Isaacson. "He just shamelessly ripped off other people's ideas."
Steve Jobs, the Apple founder and former CEO who invented and masterfully marketed ever-sleeker gadgets that transformed everyday technology, from the personal computer to the iPod and iPhone, has died at age 56. Read more
"He'd be a broader guy if he had dropped acid once or gone off to an ashram when he was younger," Jobs added.
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IIRC, both Jobs and Gates ripped off Xerox.
“...Jobs... ripped off Xerox.”
yes your company is more inventive.. (using BSD now..) and it was saved by making a replacement for the Walkman.. but in real computing, i.e. BUSINESS apple is a boutique tool at best nice for artists and music people, and snobs that want to be happy that they paid 30% more for the same thing.. but in real world Micro$oft is the winner for actually doing things.
Oh and the apple ][ as not inventive not one part in it was created by Apple just assembled off the shelf parts with some tweaking. (commodore was for the $ better I think)
You don’t know that Xerox invented the first GUI?
He didn’t? (I always thought that was how Windows Vista came to be)
The Mac interface as in many ways a copy of Xerox heck there is even a video that shows them using the first “mouse” that the speaker says he hopes gets a different name...
“the apple ][ as not inventive not one part in it was created by Apple just assembled off the shelf parts with some tweaking.”
And so was the PC platform for that matter.
Has Jobs claimed to have invented the first GUI?
Gee, thanks Steve. And, you should have had your operation when the doctors told you to, instead of treating it with vegetables & roots.
How'd that work out for ya?
I can't imagine it either. :)
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See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PARC_%28company%29 for an overview, and most especially, the Alto and Star. Xerox PARC, Alan Kay and others, can rightfully claim paternity for windowed graphical user interfaces and the mouse.
And Ethernet and the Laser Printer, if anyone is counting.
Whether this is a “rip off” or not is debatable but that Xerox did the R&D is not.
I believe it was Al Gore. :-)
Yes Boca Raton did not do much in the way of inovation either but those 3 magic letters changed the computer market to the PC market.
(I collected compouters, have IBM PC XT and AT & Jr Apple ][+ Apple /// and a Lisa and Kapro IV and 16 (among many others)
Apple’s genius was in marketing to a segment of the population willing to pay more in order to feel like they’re “cool” and/or somehow unique.
No but the article tries to show him as being very “inovative” and that M$ was not.. as it turns out Apple was not a lot more innovative if you really look at the history. sort of like repackaging new deal/socialism as hope and change.. new package but same stuff.
Thanks for the info., bigbob.
I was wondering whether or not Jobs claimed to have invented any of the aforementioned technology/hardware/software.
The last time I considered buying an Apple computer, it was in the range of 150% more.
“No but the article tries to show him as being very inovative...”
In all fairness, Jobs didn’t right the article. The paper/reporter’s trying to exploit Jobs achievements and Apples popularity.
The first graphical interface was invented by Xerox at PARC. The machine was called the Alto.
I don’t think Jobs ever said he invented the GUI. Or the mouse. He did “rip them off”.
As far as Apple goes today Mac OS X is built on BSD. Which is a POSIX compliant unix OS. Jobs did not invent Unix, that is for sure:)
Jobs scabbed other peoples work too. But in a much prettier way than Gates...
“(commodore was for the $ better I think)”
I would agree.
I wonder if Jobs ever visited any of his slave labor,excuse me,worker’s paradise factories in China?
I think he's taking issue with the claim that Apple "stole" it.
No, but his Jim Jones-esque cult followers probably think so. Apple did not invent the 3.5” floppy, mouse, or GUI, but they popularized all of them.
If only all these Steve Jobs biography quotes could be collected where one could read them all in one place... perhaps in book form... :D
The mouse, the GUI were “borrowed” from PARC/Xerox. The touchpad technology was borrowed as well although improved upon a little. Almost all of that technology has been around for 10 years. Gates also did some liberal borrowing, sometimes from the same sources. Gates actually did develop/coinvent some of the original technology he employed. Considering the economic and business history of the two firms I would say that Gates was more of a genius without the acid than Jobs was stoned. MS thrived and grew while Apple almost went under with their overpriced and proprietary hardware and software. Jobs was probably always a bit jealous and it showed, for instance, when Apple built a huge base of users by giving away hardware and software to schools and then years later sued MS for anti-competitive practices for setting up the same type of program. He was an overhyped, hippie, pimple on the ass of time. By the way; Dennis Ritchie who died the same week was a real inventor and creator of technology without which Apple and MS would have never been successful.
“Good Artists Borrow, Great Artists Steal.” - Pablo Picasso
That’s why people died young in olden times. Because they used vegetables and roots to treat disease. Not that it was an issue then since they didn’t know any better.
But at the end of the day, we’re all gonna die eventually anyway.
Better put some ice on that, Bill.
No, I’m not curious to know whether or not Jobs “stole” the invention. I wanted to know whether or not Jobs made any claims in inventing the GUI.
It’s obvious that he “ripped off” technology. Or, if you will, improved or redesigned it. People do this all the time, but to claim that you invented it is truly deceptive and criminal.
You hit it on the head. He built a market for those willing to pay big bucks for something that was not very upgradable if at all, limited in software packages, but it looked cool. They rode the “but it has better graphics” pony long after bigger, better horses came along.
You could compare Jobs to Christopher Columbus. Mariners knew for centuries that the “scientific consensus” was bogus — that the world was round not flat. None of them sailed off to “the ends of the world” on that knowledge. That's why there's a “Columbus” day.
Gates didn’t have to drop acid.
Ever hear of MSLSD?
Ooo, that’s a nice tea pot!
Ooo, that’s a nice tea pot! ... Or I should say, ‘That’s a nice kettle!’ Does it run on 110 alternating current or is a direct current only?
Jobs never claimed to have invented the GUI.
Jobs never even claimed to have invented the Apple computer
We all start feeling very religious when we know the end is near. I think about that hilarious confession list Ted Kennedy sent to the Pope. Here was a guy who probably never took religion seriously after the age of 15, and then suddenly when he was stricken with brain cancer, “Uh oh. Better repent just in case.”
Also remember Jobs saying (paraphrased) “Everybody wants to live if you think about it. Even the man who wants to go to Heaven doesn’t want to die first to get there.”
Thanks for the insight, RJS950. Sorry to hear about Mr. Ritchie.
Good Artists Borrow, Great Artists Steal. - Pablo Picasso
“Originality is undetected plagiarism.” - J. S. Bach
If Jobs and Gates had a TV series it would be called 'Blowhard and the Nerd'.
Yes, because dropping acid is for *winners*. Right?
Just ask Charlie Sheen how that is working out for him.
Which is a myth. People in Columbus’s time knew the world was round all right, but they grossly underestimated the size of it and assumed that Asia was the approximate distance from Europe that North America is.
Apple did not just ripoff Xerox. Apple compensated Xerox $1M for their visits. Apple made substantial extensions on every technology shown during Jobs’s visit especially on graphical interface and pointing devices. Xerox published a reasonable level of their results in the open literature also. Jobs deserves full credit for developing and marketing the Macintosh. Here is an interesting report on Xerox Parc and Apple.
I think Jobs should thanks Gates and MSFT for investing $150,000,000 in Apple to keep it from dying.
God? What is this God talk? After he died I read he had been a Buddhist. That must be where he gets that on off switch analogy. Nirvana ain’t suddenly so compelling when you are facing it and you are Steve Jobs. Sounds a bit like a no atheists in foxholes moment.
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