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New Herman Cain ad: The smoking man
Hot Air ^ | 10/24/11 | Allahpundit

Posted on 10/24/2011 6:44:35 PM PDT by Nachum

Lots of buzz about this among political junkies on Twitter tonight, mostly of the so-bad-it’s-good variety. Is the image of this guy taking a soothing drag on camera after 40 seconds of ad-tastic exertion really that strange and transgressive? Cain’s campaign is all about unapologetic populist authenticity, and there’s nothing more unapologetically, authentically populist than defiantly lighting one up when the mood strikes, politesse be damned. As the man says, “We’ve run a campaign like nobody’s ever seen.” If you’ve got a problem with casual smoking during presidential spots, well, that only proves what an uptight establishment RINO you really are.

In the next spot, Block should have a smoke in one hand and a can of Schlitz in the other. And as the camera pulls back, there’s Cain next to him, eating a slice of Godfather’s and giving a big thumbs-up.

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To: nopardons

It’s just some internet ad that some guy did. I don’t see the problem.


51 posted on 10/24/2011 7:49:15 PM PDT by Ramius (personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: rolling_stone
Nonsense! Few people are ever going to see this thing.

I'm responding to posters on this thread and not obsessing about this ad, what it means ( it's meaning bereft! ), and wondering why people think it's good/claiming it to be something it isn't/will make people like Cain enough to vote for him in the primaries.

52 posted on 10/24/2011 7:49:21 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Pan_Yan
Political ads/videos are supposed to get people to like the candidate and want to vote for him/her. Or like the one LBJ ran, with the exploding nuke and the little girl with the daisy, to get people to NOT vote for another person, through fear.

I keep wanting Cain to convince me to vote for him and he keeps on not just failing to do that, but pushing me farther and farther away.

53 posted on 10/24/2011 7:54:37 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: South40
Brilliant.

And I know the world of television ads.

Rush Limbaugh will go ballistic (in favor) of something like this. It is pure parody, comedy, irreverence (towards liberal PC in our society which just about everybody hates having shoved down their throats for 20 years), with a dash of political psy war. I love it. Libs won't know HOW to handle it, it is so out of their league and above their tactical level of thinking.

(And I myself am not even a smoker nor do I appreciate smoke.)

54 posted on 10/24/2011 7:54:49 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Mister Cain: a) IOWA upgrades, GOOD! b) Extend an offer to John Bolton to be your chief FP adviser)
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To: nopardons

This was a video sent to his supporters, I’m not even sure it was meant to be a “campaign ad” as you and Allahpundit are suggesting.

In any case, it made me laugh, because it kind of suits Block. All it needed was some Gunsmoke music in the background


55 posted on 10/24/2011 7:56:11 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: Chunga
I'm not "concerned at all, by the ad!

What "concerns" me and does so greatly, are the Cain supporters and the fact that they LOVE everything, especially that which is not there, about Cain.

56 posted on 10/24/2011 7:56:29 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
I keep wanting Cain to convince me to vote for him and he keeps on not just failing to do that, but pushing me farther and farther away.

So what? Don't vote for him! There. That's settled...see ya!

57 posted on 10/24/2011 7:57:05 PM PDT by Chunga ("Woo hoo!! Palin/West 2012. Unbeatable!!" - Jim Robinson)
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To: Charles Martel

“And the smoking, at the end, is puerile and meaningless.

Are they going for some sort of retro-chic, Mad Men vibe, maybe? Otherwise, I don’t get it. “

Herman is easily the most likeable of all candidates. It would be great to see him lead.

But, I agree with comments above. The puff at the end. Why? I’m confused by that. What does the puff add to the message? Weird.

Herman’s smile is great. You can tell he is a real person.


58 posted on 10/24/2011 7:57:29 PM PDT by garjog
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To: Chunga
"FAGGOT"?

Codswallop is a perfectly good English/American word. Go look it up, oh vocabulary deprived,uneducated, ridiculous person, who flings "faggot" as a type of language!

Bill Buckley would have known the word..........was HE a "faggot"?

59 posted on 10/24/2011 7:59:36 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Your over-emotion is showing. It is having the effect then. This ad is designed to do JUST THAT. Stir controversy and get people talking and give it traction and up his name ID, as well as kick liberal elitism, know-it-all ism right in the shins.


60 posted on 10/24/2011 8:00:00 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Mister Cain: a) IOWA upgrades, GOOD! b) Extend an offer to John Bolton to be your chief FP adviser)
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To: Chunga
I'm an undecided smoker and the ad did less than nothing for me.

PROVED in one, oh benighted loon.

61 posted on 10/24/2011 8:00:50 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Ramius

It’s not just “some guy”; the man is working for Cain. Did you watch the video?


62 posted on 10/24/2011 8:02:09 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: garjog

imho, they are running a different campaign not politically correct.


63 posted on 10/24/2011 8:02:50 PM PDT by mel (There are only 2 races decent and undecent people)
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To: justsaynomore

This is still my favorite Cain commercial: http://www.youtube.com/user/thehermancain#p/u/28/oZ0M_rEcHls


64 posted on 10/24/2011 8:04:01 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: justsaynomore
I just went with what it was being called, in the header of the thread and at HOT AIR.

If it was just for Cain supporters, it's a waste of whatever money was spent on it, as they are for him anyway.

65 posted on 10/24/2011 8:04:22 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Pan_Yan

good insights - gotta admit I was a little puzzled - still not sure about the unnatural head whipping at 21 seconds - looked kind of weird


66 posted on 10/24/2011 8:04:27 PM PDT by mr_griz
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Yep Herman Cain is playing 42 dimensional chess here but many of us are not smart enough to see it in particular with this most powerful ad in history of politics.


67 posted on 10/24/2011 8:04:43 PM PDT by jgge
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To: nopardons

I loved this ad. It says hermain isn’t afraid. Not of political correctness; not of the establishment.

Quite brilliantly, it may even cause people who are stuck In a paradigm, to be able to pull themselves out of it and ask some tough questions. “why am I so shocked to see a cigarette on tv? If I could be conditioned in that way, what else have I been swallowing? Etc.

Most people hate political correctness, I believe. But they need to find courage to stand against the perceived “norms” that have been reinforced by the liberal media/schools. Cain just might give people the courage to stand up to thus pc worldview that is destroying us.

And the smile at the end- authentic and confident. Obummer is a puppet who could only dream of such confidence!

Anyhow- I think Cain has some work to do in some areas, but as of right now I am in his corner because we need a non-establishment “fixer.” sign up Newt as his vp and it’s off to the races with a tea party at the whitehouse in January 2013.


68 posted on 10/24/2011 8:04:59 PM PDT by mills044 (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: nopardons

I loved this ad. It says hermain isn’t afraid. Not of political correctness; not of the establishment.

Quite brilliantly, it may even cause people who are stuck In a paradigm, to be able to pull themselves out of it and ask some tough questions. “why am I so shocked to see a cigarette on tv? If I could be conditioned in that way, what else have I been swallowing? Etc.

Most people hate political correctness, I believe. But they need to find courage to stand against the perceived “norms” that have been reinforced by the liberal media/schools. Cain just might give people the courage to stand up to thus pc worldview that is destroying us.

And the smile at the end- authentic and confident. Obummer is a puppet who could only dream of such confidence!

Anyhow- I think Cain has some work to do in some areas, but as of right now I am in his corner because we need a non-establishment “fixer.” sign up Newt as his vp and it’s off to the races with a tea party at the whitehouse in January 2013.


69 posted on 10/24/2011 8:05:16 PM PDT by mills044 (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: nopardons
I'm an undecided smoker and the ad did less than nothing for me.

PROVED in one, oh benighted loon.

You've proved nothing. In fact you haven't come near my point.

70 posted on 10/24/2011 8:05:49 PM PDT by Chunga ("Woo hoo!! Palin/West 2012. Unbeatable!!" - Jim Robinson)
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To: Chunga

I won’t, I don’t need your permission for that, and I’ll work against him! How about that ?


71 posted on 10/24/2011 8:05:59 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: justsaynomore

My interpretation....

The long drag, the look,

STICK IT UP YOUR ASS OBAMA!


72 posted on 10/24/2011 8:06:43 PM PDT by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I'm as blase and unemotional about the ad as can be, so you're armchair psych is funny.

Most people will NEVER see the video and that is a good thing, for Cain, because it's just dumb.

It has his supporters, here, talking about it and some,like me, replying to them; that's it.

73 posted on 10/24/2011 8:09:26 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

I thought the “I Am Not A Witch” ad was stupid too. But if you can’t see the difference between that ad (which ran on TV) vs an internet jab at the establishment, then you have issues my friend.

Your claim that all Cain supporters will just nod in agreement to everything he does has some validity, but it’s also gotten to the equal point where no matter what he does, Perry supporters are going to rip him with baseless attacks.

Grow up.


74 posted on 10/24/2011 8:13:11 PM PDT by NoMitt
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To: nopardons
I won’t, I don’t need your permission for that, and I’ll work against him! How about that ?

That'll be awesome...and you'll never again have an excuse to troll the Cain threads pretending that you're waiting for him to do something worthy of your vote.

75 posted on 10/24/2011 8:13:43 PM PDT by Chunga ("Woo hoo!! Palin/West 2012. Unbeatable!!" - Jim Robinson)
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To: nopardons

Well, we will just have to see about that.


76 posted on 10/24/2011 8:14:06 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Mister Cain: a) IOWA upgrades, GOOD! b) Extend an offer to John Bolton to be your chief FP adviser)
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To: mills044
It's NOT being shown on T.V. and wasn't meant to be.

What the ad says to me, is that he is a political naif, has less than NO idea what he's doing, doesn't have much money and is wasting what little he does have on hand.

You're projecting!

Look, Cain is probably a really nice guy;I've always said so. OTOH, he has NO idea how to run a campaign ( the only one he ever ran before, was a primary and he lost it! ), it's one thing to be a real "outsider", but that doesn't help at all, when running for the highest office in the land. Donald Trump has far more foreign experience,knows far more politicians who could have helped him, and it 1,000 times more savvy and I never ever wanted The Donald to run,let alone be president!

Newt believes in Global Warming, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, and is pals with Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton! Do you have some kind of a death wish?

77 posted on 10/24/2011 8:17:51 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

umm.... and having a fired up and loyal base which adores you is bad how?


78 posted on 10/24/2011 8:17:53 PM PDT by mr_griz
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To: Chunga
Take off the blinkers......I proved your point completely!

You asserted that undecided smokers would love this thing and would rush to be Cain supporters. I quickly disabused of that notion.

79 posted on 10/24/2011 8:20:09 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: wetgundog

Yes and the way he blinked few times while taking the long drag is a hidden code which meanings would be revealed by Cain soon enough. There is certainly a code there that rivals any code ever in history of mankind.


80 posted on 10/24/2011 8:21:55 PM PDT by jgge
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To: Nachum

I think it’s not an ad - it’s a video meant to rally the volunteers/paid staff who are working for his campaign.


81 posted on 10/24/2011 8:23:27 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: nopardons

Then you won’t vote for him at all in that case. If you need a reason to vote for the only Conservative in the race, then that is on you. Frankly, it doesn’t matter. So, who are you supporting?


82 posted on 10/24/2011 8:23:54 PM PDT by chilepup
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To: NoMitt
You "grow up"!

I am an undecided !

I hate Romney, wouldn't vote for Paul with a gun to my head, don't think much of Perry who is only running because his wife wants to be First Lady, and don't care for the rest of the field.

I want someone to convince me that I should vote for them and to do so for a reason I can accept. Thus far......it's NOT happening.

83 posted on 10/24/2011 8:24:14 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Pan_Yan

Was listening to political pundit John Batchelor when his guest brought up the ad. Batchelor’s head just about exploded over the smoking.

How can anyone not see the cigarette is one giant middle finger to the PC crowd?


84 posted on 10/24/2011 8:24:22 PM PDT by warsaw44
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To: Chunga
I don't "troll" Cain or any other threads.

You have no power to get me to stop posting, so don't even go there. LOL

85 posted on 10/24/2011 8:26:07 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

People are sick of the nanny state.....that’s what THIS ad is about....


86 posted on 10/24/2011 8:26:27 PM PDT by goodnesswins (My Kid/Grandkids are NOT your ATM, liberals! (Sarah Palin))
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To: chilepup

Michelle Bachmann is not conservative? Rick Santorum?


87 posted on 10/24/2011 8:27:21 PM PDT by magritte
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To: AmericanInTokyo

It’s very early days and even with the now crazy moved up primaries...............yes, we’ll see about it all, in the coming months.


88 posted on 10/24/2011 8:27:33 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

I’m stepping back for a second and wondering something outloud.

Santorum is a wreck. We know this. But, if he wants to spend all of his time and his money living in Iowa, visiting every last voter in the state, do we really care?

Should we really care that Cain spent his money on this ad? He liked it. Okay, we can argue about whether or not it is effective. But, does it really matter?

If he has little money to spend and chooses to spend it this way, I have no problem with that. It’s not like he has the funds to advertise on the networks.

The ad will speak to those who find it and like it. Others will never see it or dislike it.

Does it really change the big picture for the voter or not? Either you like him, or you don’t. I think that is what he’s saying with this ad.


89 posted on 10/24/2011 8:28:51 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Real solidarity means coming together for the common good."-Sarah Palin)
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To: Nachum

I LOVE IT!!!!!! Why shouldn’t Americans feel free to smoke a cigarette whenever we damn well please? I’m a non-smoker by choice but could care less if others smoke. I am sick and tired of every nuance of our lives being micro-managed by government and PC lunatics. Turns out most of what these leftist do-gooders impose on us turns out to be wrong.

EGGS ARE BAD! 20+ years we avoid egss. Turns out they’re good for us.

BUTTER IS BAD - USE MARGARINE!! - Turns out butter is good and margarine is toxic, probably the leading cause of our Alzheimers epidemic.

FAT IS BAD - PASTA’S GOOD!! Now we learn animal fats are actually healthful and carbs are the leading cause of our obesity epidemic ever since this craze was perpetuated on us in the 70’s.

Smoke ‘em if you’ve got ‘em.

GO CAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


90 posted on 10/24/2011 8:29:13 PM PDT by caper gal 1
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To: mills044

Or it could say “I need something so people stop asking me about abortion, which we shouldn’t even be talking about. Hey, maybe I can get them talking about smoking instead!!”


91 posted on 10/24/2011 8:29:51 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: mr_griz
That's GREAT; yet, just how big is Cain's "fired up" base?

And I never claimed that that was bad.....just that they would have been just as fired up without this thing, which had to have cost something, which Cain can ill afford to shell out for, at this time.

92 posted on 10/24/2011 8:29:55 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: magritte

They are, but they don’t have a chance. So, who are you supporting? Perry?


93 posted on 10/24/2011 8:32:01 PM PDT by chilepup
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To: chilepup
So now Cain is "the only Conservative running,is he?

I'm an undecided and yes, I do need a valid REASON/s to vote for someone in the primaries.

And every vote matters! You know that the Dems will vote in the open states,negating conservative voters' votes.

94 posted on 10/24/2011 8:33:05 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: DouglasKC; All
Brilliant ad. The age group that guy represents are the ones really peeved at Obama and the state of the country. The smoking emphasizes that they’re not politically correct. Brilliant.

Yes, so many subtleties...

* How many guys his age you know out of work? I know many. No one wants to pay them and they have tons of experience. Obama is breaking their spirit on purpose.
* The Smoking? goes right after Moochelle for going after our french fries while denoting her husband's hypocracy and his appetites.

It is so subtley anti-PC yet in your face....

Get your dang hands off my French Fries Moochelle!!!

95 posted on 10/24/2011 8:33:53 PM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: goodnesswins

I’m sick unto death of the damned nanny staters and this ad does less than NOTHING about that. It isn’t what the video is about at all; the smoking is gratuitous and puerile.


96 posted on 10/24/2011 8:35:33 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
You asserted that undecided smokers would love this thing and would rush to be Cain supporters. I quickly disabused of that notion.

You disabused me of nothing, and you have proven nothing...I did not assert that every undecided smoker who saw the ad would rush to support Cain.

You're a lazy thinker.

97 posted on 10/24/2011 8:35:43 PM PDT by Chunga ("Woo hoo!! Palin/West 2012. Unbeatable!!" - Jim Robinson)
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To: Nachum

Girl with Ice Cream Cone Ad: LBJ 1964 Presidential Campaign Commercial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjEUOirdfeo


98 posted on 10/24/2011 8:37:02 PM PDT by Bobalu (More rubble, less trouble)
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To: Nachum

Effective. I was not thinking about Herman Cain tonight and now I am.

The message is simple. And that message is that “we are different” -— “we are not the same”.


99 posted on 10/24/2011 8:39:38 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

Cain is bringing in a million a week so far in October :-)


100 posted on 10/24/2011 8:40:55 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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