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Mercury's Fading Magnetic Field Fits Creation Model
Institute for Creation Research ^ | 10-26-2011 | Brian Thomas

Posted on 10/26/2011 8:44:02 AM PDT by fishtank

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To: The Theophilus

Where did the variation COME FROM?

You have no explanation.

Your ridiculous statements do not detract from the simple conclusion that you have explained no mechanism to describe an increase in genetic variation.

A jackal is less able than a dog or a coyote because of mutation? Less able to do what exactly?

So your mechanism whereby all canine species differentiated from a pair of dogs is mutation then?

Do you see where you accepting a mechanism that creates more genetic variation with numerous species arising from a single mated pair over a few thousand years, while rejecting the same mechanism being able to to create less variation between only two separate populations in several million years is an absolute disconnect to any thinking person?

Obviously not.


161 posted on 10/27/2011 9:28:37 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: null and void

I didn’t say it and didn’t imply it. You inferred it, and then gave yourself permission to ignore everything else.

I made no comment about what you said my reply implied. My statements stand on their own and you ignore them because what I posted was factual and reasonable and observed and reporducible. It is not refutable so you make a squawk about me implying something so as to not have to deal with the statements you can’t reject by science or logic. Science is on my side in everything I stated.

This piddling kind of straw man attack may be enough to make you look like you gave a real smart retort but it doesn’t wash with me or anyone else.


162 posted on 10/27/2011 9:42:30 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: null and void

Also, and I don’t really expect a good answer from you,

but if my original post didn’t merit any of my points being responded to by you, why did you bother to post to me in the first place since you already made up your mind NOT to have a discussion about what I actually wrote?

If you find yourself in this situation with a post of mine again, do me a favor and not waste my time with a reply.


163 posted on 10/27/2011 9:48:22 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: null and void
From the text, no, no good reason.

That's the whole point ... your reasons have nothing to do with any problem in the text. There are no Hebrew grammar, syntax, or translation issues in the text.

The reason why you have a problem with the text is that you seek to understanding the text based on something other than the text itself ... and that something else is what you are using to make the text say something other than what it says.

164 posted on 10/27/2011 10:08:35 AM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: Secret Agent Man
Hmmm. You're right. We're arguing past each other. The article makes the assumption that Mercury, like the Earth, started out as a ball of magnetized water. You didn't.

As to your other point, I think you meant that any geologist seeing the erosion on Mount St Helens would assume that it happened over an extended period of time.

I pointed out the example a few hundred miles away where most geologists assumed the Scablands formed over millions of hours.

It was a geologist, J Harlen Bretz, who figured out that it was a rapid process occasioned by the ice dam melting and unleashing Missoula Lake on the area.

I think this reply was exactly to the point of your St Helens post.

Correct me if I'm wrong on this, please?

165 posted on 10/27/2011 11:27:52 AM PDT by null and void (MSGT Dean Hopkins USMC (ret) WWII-Korea-Vietnam 11/9/1925-10/22/2011 My hero, my Dad)
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To: dartuser

Pretty much. If I lived only in the text, and didn’t have the rest of the universe to contend with, I’d have no problems with it.


166 posted on 10/27/2011 11:30:52 AM PDT by null and void (MSGT Dean Hopkins USMC (ret) WWII-Korea-Vietnam 11/9/1925-10/22/2011 My hero, my Dad)
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To: null and void
Gah!

...assumed the Scablands formed over millions of hours years.

167 posted on 10/27/2011 11:57:23 AM PDT by null and void (MSGT Dean Hopkins USMC (ret) WWII-Korea-Vietnam 11/9/1925-10/22/2011 My hero, my Dad)
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To: allmendream
Where did the variation COME FROM

The question was asked earlier and answered earlier (clue: Mendel's Genetics). It isn't my fault if you didn't see it. I don't like plowing the same ground more than once - especially for insolent, insulting hecklers. I also find it amusing that you throw out questions you can't answer and then project your inability on me.

Typical juvenile behavior.

168 posted on 10/27/2011 12:05:31 PM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: The Theophilus
No, you said Gregor Mendel explained human variation - that is incorrect and shows just how ignorant you are.

Throwing out a name is not a mechanism.

How do you explain where human variations come from and how they persist within a population?

Gregor Mendel didn't explain it, you are obviously too ignorant to even know what Mendel did or did not explain.

It is amusing just how lost you are whenever the argument is on reality rather than useless creationist apologetics.

If you can explain to me how Mendel's work explains human variations I would be really impressed, but you cannot, because he didn't - so I am not.

Other than impressed by just how ignorant you are.

Creationism is useless.

Science is of use.

I have an explanation.

You have nothing but a name of a guy whose work you are obviously unfamiliar with.

Sucks to be you.

169 posted on 10/27/2011 12:12:35 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: null and void

I contend with the same universe ...


170 posted on 10/27/2011 12:17:09 PM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: dartuser

Perhaps you compartmentalize better or just have more faith (the last is a rather low bar).


171 posted on 10/27/2011 12:48:38 PM PDT by null and void (MSGT Dean Hopkins USMC (ret) WWII-Korea-Vietnam 11/9/1925-10/22/2011 My hero, my Dad)
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To: null and void
Perhaps you compartmentalize better or just have more faith (the last is a rather low bar).

Perhaps someday you will lower yourself to my level ...

I wish you well in your search for truth.

172 posted on 10/27/2011 1:33:59 PM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: dartuser

Lower??? I envy you your faith.


173 posted on 10/27/2011 1:48:07 PM PDT by null and void (MSGT Dean Hopkins USMC (ret) WWII-Korea-Vietnam 11/9/1925-10/22/2011 My hero, my Dad)
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To: The Theophilus
“When viewing the fact that mutations reduce viability and future genetic variability (ie small dogs lost the ability to procreate larger dogs), time is the enemy of the Evolutionist as compounding mutations leaves the Evolutionist with a genetically bankrupt sickly Poodle.”

Interesting observation. Dog breeders started with some breed of larger dog and eventually came to the Chihuahua. Could a dog breeder go in reverse?

174 posted on 10/27/2011 9:03:02 PM PDT by Mudtiger
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