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Iraq war vet injured during Oakland protests(critical condition)
Yahoo/AP ^ | 10/26/11 | Terry Collins

Posted on 10/26/2011 4:23:57 PM PDT by EBH

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To: rlmorel
If I lived within hearing, smelling or seeing distance of one of these abominations, I would demand the authorities put an end to it,

Mumbles Menino and Prince Bloomberg don't entertain complaints from mere citizens.

61 posted on 10/26/2011 6:54:48 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: abigkahuna

I don’t disagree. I feel a boiling under the surface in the common citizenry. Not everybody, not all the time. But there are a lot of normal, everyday people who are feeling the effects of a restrictive, nanny-state government and growing more agitated at it.

The thing most people don’t get about the Left, is that the Left BELIEVES the government should have a larger and more intrusive role in our lives. These nitwits in the “Occupy Whatever” all rail about the yoke of big business, but they would willingly and enthusiastically accept the yoke of big government, which is far, FAR more evil and dangerous.

There may indeed be a revolution or civil war, but I, for one, do not wish to see it. We have no idea, no concept of the vast, deep misery that I feel would be caused on a scale the world has never seen.

What we don’t know yet for certain is if totalitarianism is in our future. God help us, and the world, if it is. There are people who say we already live under a totalitarian society, but those who state that have never lived in a true, totalitarian society. But I am concerned when I hear cries of alarm from Americans who HAVE lived in totalitarian societies, and are concerned about what they see happening, because it looks “familiar”.

That scares the hell out of me.


62 posted on 10/26/2011 7:03:02 PM PDT by rlmorel (9/11: Aggression is attracted to weakness like sharks are to blood, and we were weak. We still are.)
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To: buccaneer81; abigkahuna

You are right there. I hope that is the non-responsive government that abigkahuna is referring to.


63 posted on 10/26/2011 7:04:26 PM PDT by rlmorel (9/11: Aggression is attracted to weakness like sharks are to blood, and we were weak. We still are.)
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To: abigkahuna

Just curious, what is “TBTB”? I am not sure, even in the context in which you use it, what that stands for. The Bright and Beautiful?


64 posted on 10/26/2011 7:07:47 PM PDT by rlmorel (9/11: Aggression is attracted to weakness like sharks are to blood, and we were weak. We still are.)
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To: rlmorel

It should be TPTB, But I like “The Bright and Beautiful” it has a certain flair.


65 posted on 10/26/2011 7:11:45 PM PDT by abigkahuna
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To: abigkahuna

Ah. The powers that be...I racked my brain and wondered if it referred to the “important people” (intentional scare quotes) that is, the ones who think they count most.


66 posted on 10/26/2011 7:19:50 PM PDT by rlmorel (9/11: Aggression is attracted to weakness like sharks are to blood, and we were weak. We still are.)
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To: EBH

>> “Iraq Veterans Against the War.” <<

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Future Traitors of America.


67 posted on 10/26/2011 7:21:01 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: rlmorel

Well, in a sense they think they are “The Bright and Beautiful”, perhaps we have a new acronym -— I would rather push that meme, than admit a simple typo!


68 posted on 10/26/2011 7:23:42 PM PDT by abigkahuna
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To: rlmorel

I’m glad I missed Menino. I was gone by then. When I lived there it was White and Flynn. Granted, I lived in the suburbs, but Boston’s mayor always had regional influence.


69 posted on 10/26/2011 7:26:58 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

I don’t know whether to laugh at his mangled attempts to speak, or be enraged at his liberalism.

He actually doesn’t piss me off as much as the people who occupy the state house. Mumbles largely keeps to himself in Boston nowadays.

WRKO had Donald Rumsfeld up here last month to speak at the Old South Meeting house (where we, as paying listeners had to run a damned gauntlet of Code Pink, Veterans Against War and other liberal scum) and to my immense irritation, you know who hosted it????

Finneran! The damned felon himself hosted it because he works at WRKO. I could barely stop muttering the whole time. I love the state, but HATE the politics here.


70 posted on 10/26/2011 7:34:08 PM PDT by rlmorel (9/11: Aggression is attracted to weakness like sharks are to blood, and we were weak. We still are.)
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To: rlmorel
I loved it a lot about it too, but by the mid '80s it was off the rails with ultra-liberalism. I was lucky enough to grow up in Needham. A great place in the '70s.

I used to love Jerry Williams on WRKO. His battle against the seatbelt law was the stuff of legends.

If there's one thing I miss the most about Boston, it's WBCN from 1975-1988.

71 posted on 10/26/2011 7:54:27 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: abigkahuna

Whenever anyone asks these kind of questions, I consider that picture of Pelosi and the gavel walking through that “mob” in DC. Senators holding hands, laughing, noses in the air...

For all the wailing about fearing the terrorist tea party...they were not afraid. They knew we respected the rule of law.

They wouldn’t dare visit OWS.


72 posted on 10/26/2011 7:57:14 PM PDT by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: FritzG

That may work in a war zone however when you are a cop in a riot you don’t want the people to have a martyr you don’t want them in groups ,what you want is scatter & become separated from the leaders/agitators .

Intimidation is also a good sized part riot control hence the stomp & drag formations . As for wounded taking up more resources that is true in a war zone but when you do it to rioters the resources that get used are yours the resources of the civil authorities & taxpayers.


73 posted on 10/26/2011 10:53:59 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: stratman1969

Yep. Go to thisainthell.us for backgrounds on IVAW and other “peace” groups.


74 posted on 10/26/2011 11:06:13 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Talisker; All

From what I saw the guy was hit on the side of the forehead just below the hairline this kind of injury can be caused by a tear gas canister ( they are roughly the size of soda cans)that was launched from a “cup discharger “ in a ballistic arch or simply put a blank is loaded into the shotgun the cup discharger is attached to the muzzle of the gun the grenade goes into the discharger & fired at a 45 degree angle . if you are standing in the path of one of these canisters that is inbound you can get a rude surprise.


75 posted on 10/26/2011 11:06:20 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: trumandogz

The cops tend to develop a dislike for people who don’t follow their orders. That supersedes party lines.


76 posted on 10/26/2011 11:21:48 PM PDT by firebrand (Why didn't they impeach him before he started the revolution?)
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To: rlmorel; All

You are correct the injuries are to the side /forehead just below the hairline. Rubber bullets are aimed at the lower torso but tear gas canisters are fired from a shot gun with a “cup discharger” attached to the muzzle they(the gas grenade) are roughly the size of a soda can .

A blank cartridge is fired in the gun while aimed at a approximate 45 degree upward angle. If you happen to walk into one as its incoming you will get a rude surprise.


77 posted on 10/26/2011 11:21:57 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: All

The OWS crowd in SF and Oakland have been illegally camping out and marching thru the streets, blocking traffic and ignoring orders to disperse.

Meanwhile, local media has been cheerleading for them, repeatedly mentioning how “mellow” (actual word used) the crowd is tonight, despite the fact that they are marching thru the streets of Oakland, blocking traffic and yelling and screaming.

The Mayor of SF wants to put Port a Potties out for them.
Guess who will be paying for those?

Rumor is that SFPD will do some house cleaning at midnight or at 3:00 AM

It’s sickening hearing the local news anchors fawning over these dirtbags.

Ironically, these same news anchors are part of the 1% and wouldn’t even look at one of these people on the street for fear of being hit up for spare change.

I’m just so disgusted by the local media right now and their blatant cheerleading and ass-kissing of these OWS scumbags.

Flash grenades and rubber bullets, along with fire hoses on full blast should be in use, right now.

Instead, these people are being coddled and allowed to march thru the streets and tie up traffic, camp out in public parks, steal electricity from lamp posts, defecating in the streets, urinating in doorways, stealing what they can’t buy for their “cause”, etc...

And the media is openly cheerleading for them.

Meanwhile, the TP is labeled as racists and as violent.

FU MSM

Do your job and show these OWS cretins for what they really are, and who is funding them.


78 posted on 10/26/2011 11:39:41 PM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield (The true face of the left that the MSM won't show: www.zombietime.com)
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To: firebrand

“The cops tend to develop a dislike for people who don’t follow their orders. That supersedes party lines.”

And the cops don’t care if you are waving an American flag or an Anarchist flag or if you are occupying a park or blocking the entrance to an abortion mill, they are going to beat you down if you do not comply.


79 posted on 10/26/2011 11:49:17 PM PDT by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: trumandogz

Yes. That is their first priority. If they can’t enforce their orders, what is the point of their existing? Why pay their salaries? Why don’t you like cops?


80 posted on 10/27/2011 4:23:18 AM PDT by firebrand (Why didn't they impeach him before he started the revolution?)
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