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Why President Obama and His Advisers Are Absolutely Convinced He Will Be Re-elected In 2012
FOXNews ^ | 10-28-11 | Douglas E. Schoen

Posted on 10/28/2011 8:39:38 AM PDT by tcrlaf

President Obama and his team are quite optimistic they will win reelection in 2012, notwithstanding the bad poll numbers he is facing and the absolute collapse of confidence with Washington and indeed the American economy.

There are a number of reasons why the president and his advisers are so optimistic.

First, it is his judgment that with the horse race now tied for president, he has managed to weather the storm of a declining economy and declining confidence much better than he, or frankly most observers, would have expected.

(SNIP)

But what heartens the president's advisers is they believe they have locked into a strategy now that they are convinced can and will pay dividends.

First, they have largely given up on trying to work with Congress. With executive orders on housing and student loans, and a new slogan of "We can't wait!" the president and the Democrats are now arguing that gridlock in Washington is almost exclusively the Republicans' fault and that a "do nothing" Congress, whose rating fell as low as 9% in the most recent New York Times poll, and a Republican party whose negative rating is over 71%, will get the lion's share of the blame for inaction and dysfunctionality.

Second, the president looks at the Republican primary field and laughs, as he did on "The Tonight Show" with Jay Leno this week.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; election2012; lie; obama; reelection
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To: ReneeLynn
Yeah, another election of picking one stinker over another.

More like picking ANY stinker over a known, clear and present danger, domestic enemy of the Constitution.

51 posted on 10/28/2011 9:26:07 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: ken21
In 1936 the unemployment rate was lower than when FDR took office. It went up again in 1940. Obama will almost certainly have an unemployment rate higher than when he took office.

When FDR took office in January 1933 was 25.2% and in 1936 it was 16.9%. FDR could say his policies were working. Obama can't say that.


52 posted on 10/28/2011 9:27:27 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Jim Noble
Both parties also adhere to a Globalist foreign policy and ridicule the American First position.

The only real difference between the parties are the scripts they have to read to their particular constituencies. The reason they follow the same policies is becuase both parties are bought off by the same Globalist Banksters.

P.S. we don't have credit based consumption but debt based consumption. Debt created out of thin air with the stroke of a pen and owed to the Globalist Banksters.

53 posted on 10/28/2011 9:30:47 AM PDT by Roninf5-1
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To: ZULU
these “debates” which are merely circular firing squads where Republicans aim at each other instead of the Marxist Menace in the Oval Office.

It's a contest. They must compete with each other in order to win the nomination. That's what the primary is all about.

If they happen to skewer Obama while besting their opponents, all the better.

54 posted on 10/28/2011 9:33:08 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: tcrlaf
"his willing sycophantic mainstream media"

This is the real GOP opponent, not Obozo, who is so in the hole that he cannot recover on his own. When I hear a coherant 'fight the MSM' policy from the GOP, I will believe that a GOP candidate can win. The current crop of panty waist GOP leaders leave me in despair.

55 posted on 10/28/2011 9:34:47 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: tcrlaf

I think he could win on a Populist platform, but it is going to take more than talk.

He is going to have to turn Eric Holder loose and send a few Wall Street bankers on high-profile perp walks.

He is going to have to literally FORGIVE a bunch of student loan debt...not just tweak payments down by six or eight bucks a month.

He is going to have to limit bank fees and cap their credit card rates at something like 15 points over prime.

He is going to have to force banks to take cramdowns on mortgage principle amounts.

Those actions would, I fear, gain him a tremendous amount of popular support.

All of it is problematic for Obama though because he is highly compromised (i.e. has taken more money from Wall Street than any other politician in history).

Is he coming to a point where he is wiling to throw them under the bus to go full-throated populist? I expect we will soon find out.


56 posted on 10/28/2011 9:36:30 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Dave W

That and recent poll numbers showing Romney losing ground to Obama.

Romney’s support is a fixed number. It hasn’t gone up in years. People do not like him. He stands for both nothing and everything..

Romney will get slaughtered in the General.


57 posted on 10/28/2011 9:36:58 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: tcrlaf
If obama wins in 2012, it will be by treachery and deceit. That's all that someone like obama is capable of.
58 posted on 10/28/2011 9:39:55 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: tcrlaf

The creature will probably be reelected. He has too many factors in his favor: (a) the ongoing collapse of American society reulting in a mere demography not a “People;” (b) the MSM-”three weeks of media treatment and the truth is recognized by all;”(c) a billion dollar war chest;(d)a strong base composed of blacks, homosexuals, Jews, Mexicans, Asians and soon to be added felons;(e)massive voter fraud; (f) a ridiculous list of Republican candidates;(g)voter intimidation-two black thugs at critical white precincts causing thousands of potential white voters to flee in abject terror. The aforementioned are very strong factors.


59 posted on 10/28/2011 9:47:53 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: BilLies

Nobama is already “joking” in speeches to “cut Congress.”


60 posted on 10/28/2011 9:48:45 AM PDT by DallasDeb
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To: Twotone

Me too. Absolutely. That is my family’s plan.


61 posted on 10/28/2011 9:53:34 AM PDT by rep-always
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To: Windflier

“If they happen to skewer Obama while besting their opponents, all the better.”

So far, I have seen little of this.

Instead of arguing about the best way to “bury” Obama, they are ripping each other to shreds to little end. They should be arguing tactics in correcting Obama’s mess. But the Mainstream People who run these things are steering the “debates” away from that and onto each other.


62 posted on 10/28/2011 9:54:55 AM PDT by ZULU (ANYBODY BUT ROMNEY)
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To: sport

“the efforts that the main stream media will make to keep him in office.”

Yeh, that worked real well in 2010, didn’t it? Let’s go for a repeat and stomp the media’s n*ts into the concrete again.


63 posted on 10/28/2011 9:56:39 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: tcrlaf

I like they got Democrats convinced too so they don’t have a another Democrat challenger


64 posted on 10/28/2011 9:57:17 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Frankly, I think Obama will end up winning, or we will have another squeaker.

The GOP is so much in disarray right now, we are not able to even pick a candidate. And the “my way or the highway” people here at FR will stay home and give it to The One.


65 posted on 10/28/2011 10:02:33 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: tcrlaf
Quote for today: "The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living." -- Anonymous
66 posted on 10/28/2011 10:04:07 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: BunnySlippers

People will finally vote for Romney ! They will not stay home ! But, there will be not people making phone calls, walking & talking in their precincts, no one to put the signs, writing to editors and so on ! That is going to determine the election

Replace Romney with Conservative candidate. The mood will be different


67 posted on 10/28/2011 10:06:32 AM PDT by Ranjit
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To: BunnySlippers
the “my way or the highway” people here at FR will stay home

Or vote Constitution Party.

68 posted on 10/28/2011 10:10:12 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

If true, the Country doomed. It will be California and New York from sea to shining sea. :(


69 posted on 10/28/2011 10:14:44 AM PDT by BilLies (ABCBSNBCNN, NYTimes, WaPOSt , etc., hates your Traditional American guts!)
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To: ReneeLynn

If given the choice between two candidates who are both big government liberals that signed government-mandated health care into law and defend it to this day, give up on trying to clean out the White House and donate your time and money to House and Senate candidates who deserve them.

Don’t forget how much we failed accomplish when Dubya had Republican majorities in Congress. The welfare state wasn’t rolled back; federal departments weren’t eliminated; no budgets were cut. I could go on and on. We got nothing done because a RINO-in-chief gives the establishment types absolutely no incentive to even pretend to be conservative.

We do have to vote for RINOs sometimes, but Romney isn’t even a moderate; he’s a lying, opportunistic socialist. If you can talk yourself into supporting someone like that, you may as well become a Democrat.


70 posted on 10/28/2011 10:19:41 AM PDT by Cato in PA
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To: Twotone
You vote for the Republican, regardless of who it is

Not a snowball's chance in hell will I vote for Romney or any other RINO!

71 posted on 10/28/2011 10:21:29 AM PDT by eak3
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To: kabar

thanks.


72 posted on 10/28/2011 10:23:34 AM PDT by ken21
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To: RIghtwardHo

But Romney will get the nomination. Sadly, I don’t see anyone else out there.

Cain just comes off to rough.


73 posted on 10/28/2011 10:43:48 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: tcrlaf

As I see it, Obama will win. He has been a very generous Santa lately and it will pay off. The die is cast for this country and I really believe that nothing can be done. The only votes he has not locked is the white private, Christian voters and he doesn’t need them.

Good percentage of the military vote: closing shop in the ME and bringing the troops home.

Latino and other immigrant vote: recenty issued the executive power amnesty.

Student 18-25 vote: Getting their student loans reduced not to mention his support of Occupy.

Gay vote: Reversed DADT

All union members: including teachers, firefighters, police.

Green Vote: They love him. Gave our money to a bankrupt solar panel company making them ecstatic.

Black Vote: Nothing more to add.

Don’t forget, with each of these types of people they have family, friends, etc. who sympathize with them.


74 posted on 10/28/2011 10:45:47 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: eak3

Then, you and others who think/feel similarly must be very confident of having sufficient and sustained margins in the House and Senate to be able to shape, direct, and control the agenda, appointments, etc. over their Congressional dissenters and a reelected President Obama.

I presume that you intend to achieve your policy objectives this way, and consider that this method is more likely to be a sustainable reality????

That seems to fly in the face of history (pick your period), But, maybe there is something fact-based and realistic that I am overlooking . . . .


75 posted on 10/28/2011 10:45:50 AM PDT by MarineDadNavyVet
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To: Toespi

May I (not immodestly) refer you to my post #50 in this thread?


76 posted on 10/28/2011 10:48:48 AM PDT by MarineDadNavyVet
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To: BilLies

I hate to tell you that I agree with you 100% there is going to be a rocky road next summer. These Parasites are itching for a reason to call martial law. I do know it sounds crazy. But next summer their will be riots and they will explode into not only the cities but also the outer cities and that will be a big blow up. And guess what “for the good of the country I am taking the step to stop the violence. I am enacting martial law for a period of three weeks to calm things down.” Ok I know good fiction but with this bunch nothing is to far fetched.


77 posted on 10/28/2011 10:55:07 AM PDT by crazydad
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To: MarineDadNavyVet

You are absolutely spot on and is the heart of what is needed. I have often thought that is is essential to explain exactly what communism, socialism and marxism is all about. Our educational system has failed to do so and the youth see these in an almost heroic light. They do not understand the core of these beliefs, and what it would mean to their way of life. Ok, so who is going to be the one to enlighten them? I see one person in the field of candidates that has the historical, constitutional, and experience to do so and that is Newt Gingrich. I might also add, he has the balls as well.


78 posted on 10/28/2011 11:09:04 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: tcrlaf

Those that underestimate their enemy, generally lose.

There are hundreds of reasons why Obama should lose, just as there were mountains of reasons why he should have never been elected in the first place.

Regardless of the strong case against him, Obama could definitely win.

My concern is not so much that he could win, instead, WILL WE give it to him.....?


79 posted on 10/28/2011 11:13:55 AM PDT by Gator113 (~ Just livin' life~........ leaning heavy for Newt 2012)
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To: Toespi
"teachers"

Not THIS teacher!

80 posted on 10/28/2011 11:21:43 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly ("Mantra of the left: 'It's only okay when WE do it.'")
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To: tcrlaf
If Romney is the nominee...I am not voting for him, that's for sure. will write in a conservative. GOP will learn, eventually. This would be strike two for them. I have more than a feeling there are a lot of me’s out here in the real world.
81 posted on 10/28/2011 11:28:20 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Toespi

I agree with your conclusions.


82 posted on 10/28/2011 11:29:54 AM PDT by MarineDadNavyVet
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To: ZULU
The ONLY way the Dems can win in 2012 is to make the election about the Republican Candidate and not Obama’s MISERABLE perforamce and anti-American agenda.

Which they've been doing a damn fine job of so far. No headlines about Obama going rogue, bypassing Congress for political reasons. Nope, headlines are all about the poor lineup for Pubs and the "horse race". Fighting the national media is tough.

83 posted on 10/28/2011 11:34:09 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: jacknhoo

Dare I do it twice—refer to a very recently posted response (my own, #75) in this thread?

I ask you the same question.


84 posted on 10/28/2011 11:42:49 AM PDT by MarineDadNavyVet
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To: jacknhoo

So, you’ll be voting for OBAMA by default then.
Do you really hate America, that much?


85 posted on 10/28/2011 11:54:50 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: tcrlaf

All of this looks like weakness given the assumptions hes making about the behavior of the republicans and current state of the republicans. Assumption which will not hold true.

1: Republicans will not remain divided.

2: Republicans will attack Obama for all that he has indisputably done.

Looks to me like hes building a desperate house of cards. All we need do is attack it and him to bring it down.

Like it or not he controls the goverment and has had more control over the same goverment then any man in the last 50 years.

Republicans have been utterly helpless to stop his agenda for the last 2 years when he had a filibuster proof majority in the senate. He is Washington D.C. in essence, and his supporter base is hardcore wall-street. Look only to see his campaign manager.

Obama’s strategy is a house of cards.


86 posted on 10/28/2011 11:57:42 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: RowdyFFC
HORSE HOCKEY! This country is wide awake! And we’re working every precinct block.

That is the nation's only hope (the people being awake.)

What is truly breathtaking is the level of complicity coming from the media. It couldn't be more transparent, the way the LSM props up Democrats and undermines the GOP.

The LSM actually want this goddamn marxist/crony capitalist to retain power, and they will gloss over absolutely any evil or incompetence for this Tyrant. We'll see a tiny bit of flak, of course, just so they can claim they're objective.

So, like I said, the only hope is that enough of the American people are truly awake, and can get their information unfiltered from the internet, and review the awful reality for themselves.

It sure would be a bad sign if Romney were to get the nomination, because that would strongly imply that the People are simply not awake enough. In fact, I can't see how a Romney presidency would be any real improvement over the current occupant.

If Romney wins the nomination, we are truly doomed, because either a) Romney will lose, or b) Romney will win and things will still slide in the same leftward direction. There is no doubt in my mind.

87 posted on 10/28/2011 12:07:15 PM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: MarineDadNavyVet
I think it is key that our nominee be someone who can discuss the basic principles involved, their history and importance to us today, and in the future. Someone who can explain and connect underlying (conservative) principles for the well-being and future character of our nation.

And there's no way in hell that Romney could ever lead that charge.

The more I analyze the situation, the more I wish Sarah Palin was running. That remains my honest conviction.

Cain? Perry? Gingrich? I could live with either of those three, I guess. Newt certainly is masterful at conservative rhetoric, and has deep historical and philosophical knowledge, but when he was in Congress he was pretty much an NWO/neocon wasn't he?. The "Free Trade Agreements", etc. It may very well be that Newt could be a good stateseman President.

For me right now, I support Cain, Gingrich, and Perry, in that order. And I'm very excited about these long format debates which Gingrich and Cain might participate in. When will those be?

88 posted on 10/28/2011 12:17:01 PM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: tcrlaf
If the little emperor gets re-elected, it is a guarantee that he will serve at least 4-terms.

It is way past time for everyone complaining to get their heads out of their butts and realize that the ammo box will be the only election device capable of restoring the former Constitution and any semblance of freedom & liberty.

89 posted on 10/28/2011 12:31:54 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: sargon

Yes, I like/prefer Cain, Gingrich, and Perry, too.

I really do think it is important that would-be voters have clear images and ideas presented to them—in a loving way that calls upon them to understand this country. Why it is important that they understand the causes of our exceptionalism—and the costs and the benefits!

I think it is important that the eventual candidate hold up a national mirror for us to look in and to see what image(s) look back at us.

I think that it is very important that Americans understand it is about much more than “things”, or various political or economic “goodies”, or even political party preference.

It is about national character, and well-being, and destiny! And that starts within each and every one of us.


90 posted on 10/28/2011 12:34:30 PM PDT by MarineDadNavyVet
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To: tcrlaf
I note that Ron Paul has been open to the idea of a 3rd party run should he not get the GOP nomination. Think what a lot of liberal money would pour into his campaign (LEGALLY) in order to draw away conservative votes from the GOP Nominee! This or any other 3rd Party from the 'right' would make Obama that much more re-electable.

We forget that it was Ross Perot that made Bill Clinton POTUS in 1992 and gave a real assist in 1996. Thinking of Obama taking the Oath of Office in January 2013 gives me nausea and great fear for the future!

91 posted on 10/28/2011 12:36:16 PM PDT by SES1066 (Vote in 2012 for OUR CIVIL RIGHTS not the Left's!)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Obama wants Romney to get the GOP nod. Then Obamacare is a non-issue.


92 posted on 10/28/2011 12:36:34 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: tcrlaf

You don’t make any sense. First you say:

“Republicans and Democrats agree that the purpose of the State is redistribution. How much, and to whom, and under what circumstances, there are disagreements. But no elected officials of either Party believe that it is wrong to take from you and give to another of their own choosing, for reasons that make sense to them.”

Which I agree with. But then you call for Paul Ryan to enter the race, which I took to mean you thought he would be a good candidate (correct me if I’m wrong). But Paul Ryan believes just as much in redistribution of wealth as anyone already on the GOP ticket. If you go to his roadmap website, you see that he believes Medicare/Medicaid are “critical” programs that need saving. He refers to Social Security as an “important retirement program.” He says nothing about ending the U.S. Department of Education, among other unconstitutional monstrosities.

Ryan believes in these programs (and scores of others) because he’s a socialist. So why do you think we need yet ANOTHER Republican socialist in the race?


94 posted on 10/28/2011 12:42:11 PM PDT by Joetp85
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To: ReneeLynn

A conservative is going to vote for a Mitt. 4 more years of BO and we will have nothing to conserve.


95 posted on 10/28/2011 12:45:57 PM PDT by Maryhere ("HE comes to rule the earth")
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To: Joetp85

Uhhh.. I didn’t say any of that. Are you posting to the right person?


96 posted on 10/28/2011 12:46:03 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: Joetp85

My apologies. I got “Andy from Chapel Hill” and Jim Noble mixed up. For some reason I thought they were the same person.

Even still, I wonder why Andy thinks we need another socialist in the race.


97 posted on 10/28/2011 12:51:52 PM PDT by Joetp85
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To: tcrlaf

Sorry, tcrlaf. Apparently I got a bunch of different names mixed up. See my other post.

(I’m new to freerepublic commenting and got confused! Again, my apologies!)


98 posted on 10/28/2011 12:51:54 PM PDT by Joetp85
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To: EnigmaticAnomaly

I am sure there are some conservative teachers and didn’t mean to generalize. But here is an example: I have a good friend who just retired after 32 years of teaching in a conservative Ohio city. I have known her for 30 years and she has always been a staunch Republican, with conservative social values, until now.......she has sided with the unions and thus Obama. She voted against him in 08 but says he will get her vote this time. You see, it all comes down to what’s in it for “me”. Incidentally, we know quite a few firefighters and police who are in the same frame of mind. Obama is a vote whore and will win. He has intentionally divided America and could care less about the outcome, as long as he wins and continues the slide to socialism.


99 posted on 10/28/2011 12:56:17 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: sergeantdave

obama wasn’t running in 2010.


100 posted on 10/28/2011 1:07:43 PM PDT by sport
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