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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 30 October 2011
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 30 October 2011 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 10/30/2011 4:43:41 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



October 30th, 2011

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): 2012 GOP presidential candidate Rick Perry.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): White House adviser David Plouffe.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): 2012 GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain.

THIS WEEK (ABC): 2012 GOP presidential candidate Michele Bachmann; Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates.

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): 2012 GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul; David Axelrod, adviser to President Obama's re-election campaign.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: guests; lineup; sunday; talkshows
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To: rodguy911

I have serious doubts that fossil Schieffer pointed his finger and scolded Obama for smoking.


151 posted on 10/30/2011 8:06:09 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Why does Ron Paul wear fake eyebrows?)
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To: kabar

Obooma will have the most negative attack campaign in history, to destroy anyone who threatens his sacred power machine. The dummies in the MSM will sit back and refuse to report Obama’s shortcomings, following the extreme liberal line. The country will suffer will suffer in the long run from Obooma’s free pass.


152 posted on 10/30/2011 8:08:10 AM PDT by FreedBird
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To: FreedBird
Exactly, the New Media rocks on.

I forget the story but I was watching FNC the other day and they covered a story that I had not read here on FR.

I was shocked!

It's not unusual for us to be weeks instead of days ahead of the msm. And, we do it over and over and over.

This is truly a great place to be.

153 posted on 10/30/2011 8:08:28 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: kabar

Rest assured Obama is still a smoker. I wish Cain had asked Schieffer whether Zero was lectured in the same way. I’m still shaking my head in disbelief.


154 posted on 10/30/2011 8:10:22 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Why does Ron Paul wear fake eyebrows?)
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To: Miss Marple

I wish we could have a dispassionate, realistic debate on the illegal alien problem, but people tend to get hysterical and unreasonable.

We’ve got over 12 million illegals here. It’s pretty obvious that we’re not gonna get rid of them. There’s no magic wand or electric fence that will do that.

A big step would be deporting law breakers but the Obama administration won’t even do that.

Now, what to do about illegals receiving benefits? I read a study on it and they DO receive benefits in most states. Mostly, they receive food stamps and medicaid.

But, interestingly enough, they do not receive benefits because they are not working. Virtually all of the Mexican families had at least one family member working, many had two. The problem is that they work at menial, low-paying jobs and have incomes low enough to qualify for those benefits.

Should we cut off benefits to those families entirely? That’s a poser. And what about the children born here? Are they citizens or not. I’ve read opinions both ways.

I think if we could actually close the border, and we could if we wanted to bad enough, this problem would fade away and we could decide what we want to do with the illegals here now without hysteria.

It’s the constant influx and the feeling of helplessness it engenders that makes the problem so bad.

All of these welfare programs need to be looked at, not just the ones helping illegals.

But we can’t seem to talk about it.


155 posted on 10/30/2011 8:12:51 AM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: kabar
No doubt. Whomever our candidate is he will be destroyed in the minds of the DBM over and over.

In a way I can only hope they over do it since the American people are not stupid and to over do it is as bad as not to point out defects. Just another reason they are all set up to lose.

On another front the drivebys at CNN on howie's pathetic show are all now troubled that Rick Perry brought up zeros BC.its hilarious.NOw its racist!!Just too good!!

Actually, the BC is just a diversion for the real reason zero is not qualified, NBC. But we have beat that one pretty good here.

156 posted on 10/30/2011 8:16:02 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: TomGuy

You are right.

that will appeal to those Blacks who will vote for Obama regardless if Jesus Christ ran against him...but the Indpendents will take notice (hopefully! ha)


157 posted on 10/30/2011 8:16:50 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: rodguy911

It’s great Democrats are going to shill for their one candidate, they are most certainly past a point where any challenger could have any chance, and their argument for another term is falling far short of logic as Republicans continue debates to show America isn’t a mediocre country it has been sold of as of 2008.


158 posted on 10/30/2011 8:19:12 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: FreedBird
True,we can only hope they will over do it.

Look what happened with Palin.

Yes, they kept her from running for office but she will destroy the left,singlehandedly, by uniting the party like no one else can do!! All courtesy of the left over doing the hit on her.Let them complain, IMHO.

159 posted on 10/30/2011 8:19:12 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: altura

OOOppps!

this shows the underbelly of the Left...their real attitude towards minorities and the “workers”..they are sooo beneath these elites. Keep it up lefties...I can’t wait for the Progressives start a movement to put Margaret Sanger on a postage stamp.ha.


160 posted on 10/30/2011 8:19:42 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: altura

Very well put. If the subject was laid out as you just did (155), then it would be far easier for our politicians to talk about. Very articulate...bravo to you!


161 posted on 10/30/2011 8:19:42 AM PDT by merryberry (was once a sad berry)
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To: NautiNurse

True, but with only three people watching.....who cares.He’s toast and waaay overdone.


162 posted on 10/30/2011 8:20:46 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: NautiNurse

This smoking thing is weird. My husband smokes and every time someone asks me for money, I say, “I gave at 7-11.”

Supposedly all these cigarette taxes go to health benefits for needy childen. Do I believe that? Well, no. But assuming that they do, I support many needy children monthly.

The husband is always saying that he wishes they’d make cigarettes illegal. That way he could get them cheaper from pushers.

I don’t know who or how they managed to make smoking a sin. There are many worse things one can do to one’s body and nobody makes a sin out of them. Except maybe Michelle who’s trying to get us not to eat tasty stuff.

It may be a bad habit but the attitude that has arisen about it is really odd. I don’t care if Cain or Obama smokes, but he lies about it. I do care if my husband smokes because it’s so expensive.


163 posted on 10/30/2011 8:22:31 AM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: Son House

Exactly, anyone who can think will vote elsewhere.


164 posted on 10/30/2011 8:22:52 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: NautiNurse

Looks like I guessed this one wrong. they,CBS, do have an audience.Amazing people will watch this old fool.


165 posted on 10/30/2011 8:24:00 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: merryberry

Thanks, merry, I needed that ! :)


166 posted on 10/30/2011 8:25:19 AM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: TomGuy

Why do all these “conservatives” have a “tax plan” and only screwball Ron Paul actually proposes massive SPENDING CUTS?

Perry’s plan addresses spending and revenue. It is called a “Cut, Balance and Grow” Plan.


His “plan” raises my taxes!


167 posted on 10/30/2011 8:25:34 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: bray

The talking heads still firmly believe it is they who determine the winner.


168 posted on 10/30/2011 8:26:24 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Why does Ron Paul wear fake eyebrows?)
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To: NautiNurse

And old Bob essentially demanded that Cain say to the audience, especially children, that smoking was injurious to one’s health.


169 posted on 10/30/2011 8:26:33 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Son House; All

By the way this had to be one of the best stories of the week.

http://townhall.com/columnists/douggiles/2011/10/30/muslims_miffed_that_catholic_university_has_catholic_imagery


170 posted on 10/30/2011 8:31:49 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: 101voodoo

The MTP panel just concluded a worship session of Steve Jobs, including David Gregory reading a quote of how Steve jobs distorted reality by being arguments to meet his plans, along with a mention that “this made schedules hard to meet” or something along those lines. Then Davey made a comment that we need a leader like that in DC to get things done.


171 posted on 10/30/2011 8:33:25 AM PDT by Bernard (When the only Problem is overspending, all the Solutions look like TAX INCREASES to liberals...)
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To: rodguy911
"but she will destroy the left,singlehandedly, by uniting the party like no one else can do!! "

I believe you are correct on this. Just wait until we have our candidate.

172 posted on 10/30/2011 8:36:27 AM PDT by AGreatPer (Obama has NEVER given a speech where he did not lie!!!)
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To: Happy Rain
My prediction is FNS will help Perry cause they just can't take a chance that a conservative who is not under their control,like Herman Cain, wins.

Like elRushbo constantly reminds his listeners, if you don't allow the media to build you up, then they cannot tear you down. Rush likes to point out that the media had no influence on his success and therefor they cannot destroy him.
173 posted on 10/30/2011 8:36:48 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: PaleoBob

Hush and eat your peas, Paleo.

Seriously, though, I think we should beware of so much trashing of our conservative candidates.

Cain is the ‘vote cute’ guy right now, and I don’t say that to diminish him, but he’s got the thing Obama had going last time. And I’ll be fine if he wins.

However, he has the biggest chance of cratering for a couple of reasons and it would be best not to crucify the other conservatives in your zeal for Cain.

I base this on the fact that, admirable though we may think it not to be a politician, there is still something to be said for having been there, done that. He’s done some things that one could call either daring or disastrous and who knows what will be next.

Another thing about Cain is his age and his health. I wish him well. But undertaking something like this at his age and with stage 4 cancer in total remission, I just wonder about it. Of course, anything can happen to anyone healthwise, but he seems a little more likely than most to have something happen.

Please don’t think I am hoping for this. I am not. I’m just saying that we should not put all our hopes and dreams into one person ... I kinda did that with Sarah and learned my lesson.

Just support Cain or Perry or Newt without dissing the rest of our conservative candidates.


174 posted on 10/30/2011 8:37:13 AM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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20% of the population still smokes. I am one of them.

Yes, I know that it’s bad for my health. I accept that.

When I was a child, smokers were everywhere. People smoked on airplanes, in college lecture halls, in grocery stores as they shopped, in offices, in government buildings. Despite the smoking, there was a more civilized tone to American life in the 50’s.

What I HAVE noticed (and is under reported) is that people who smoke are often self-medicating for anxiety, depression, etc. And assuming that is true, perhaps someone should start correlating the number of nut cases on airplanes, road rage, and other random acts of unreasonable public anger to the decline in smoking. Things seem a lot more unpleasant in public now than 60 years ago.

Also, nicotine users have a lower incidence of Alzheimer’s. Now maybe it’s because we leave this mortal coil before we can show symptoms, but someone should also think about that when they are totaling up the total cost of health care.

Please don’t start on the smoking thing. I will not respond and do not care about others’ opinions on this subject. I just wanted to point out a few things to think about.


175 posted on 10/30/2011 8:39:39 AM PDT by Miss Marple (uestioner in contrast.)
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To: Happy Rain
then the day after his inauguration they discover
he is from the planet Ork so he has to resign.

won't matter then....Example : Pres__ent OBozo...
I'm being kind, I actually call "it" something far worse, so report me.


176 posted on 10/30/2011 8:41:20 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (I can take tomorrow, spend it all today. Who can take your income, tax it all away. Obama Man can. :)
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To: Alas Babylon!
thanks, for the ping.

177 posted on 10/30/2011 8:42:47 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (I can take tomorrow, spend it all today. Who can take your income, tax it all away. Obama Man can. :)
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To: altura

excellant review.

Seal the border, have an effective Work Visa program , deport illegal criminals and the rest will be solvable.

Not until the border is secure and we have a decent Work Visas program will this be resolved.

BTW, the influx of illegals has dropped recently—economy.


178 posted on 10/30/2011 8:47:48 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: altura
We’ve got over 12 million illegals here. It’s pretty obvious that we’re not gonna get rid of them. There’s no magic wand or electric fence that will do that.

There are closer to 20 million if the truth be known. Attrition thru enforcement works. We have more choices than mass deportation or a blanket amnesty.

Now, what to do about illegals receiving benefits? I read a study on it and they DO receive benefits in most states. Mostly, they receive food stamps and medicaid.,

They are not entitled to federal benefits except thru their anchor babies. 300,000 to 400,000 anchor babies are born each year in this country. They are entitled to Medicaid, food stamps, etc. just like any other American citizen. The biggest costs to the taxpayers for illegals are education (K-12) and health care. Incarceration costs are the third highest not to mention the tens of thousands of Americans who have been killed or injured by illegals. There are 26,000 illegal aliens in federal prisons being held for murder.

But, interestingly enough, they do not receive benefits because they are not working. Virtually all of the Mexican families had at least one family member working, many had two. The problem is that they work at menial, low-paying jobs and have incomes low enough to qualify for those benefits.

Here is a recent study: Welfare Use by Immigrant Households with Children A Look at Cash, Medicaid, Housing, and Food Programs It provides good data on welfare use. Some highlights:

•We estimate that 52 percent of households with children headed by legal immigrants used at least one welfare program in 2009, compared to 71 percent for illegal immigrant households with children. Illegal immigrants generally receive benefits on behalf of their U.S.-born children.

• In 2009 (based on data collected in 2010), 57 percent of households headed by an immigrant (legal and illegal) with children (under 18) used at least one welfare program, compared to 39 percent for native households with children.

• Immigrant households’ use of welfare tends to be much higher than natives for food assistance programs and Medicaid. Their use of cash and housing programs tends to be similar to native households.

• Households with children with the highest welfare use rates are those headed by immigrants from the Dominican Republic (82 percent), Mexico and Guatemala (75 percent), and Ecuador (70 percent). Those with the lowest use rates are from the United Kingdom (7 percent), India (19 percent), Canada (23 percent), and Korea (25 percent).

• The states where immigrant households with children have the highest welfare use rates are Arizona (62 percent); Texas, California, and New York (61 percent); Pennsylvania (59 percent); Minnesota and Oregon (56 percent); and Colorado (55 percent).

• Illegal immigrant households with children primarily use food assistance and Medicaid, making almost no use of cash or housing assistance. In contrast, legal immigrant households tend to have relatively high use rates for every type of program.

• Although most new legal immigrants are barred from using some welfare for the first five years, this provision has only a modest impact on household use rates because most immigrants have been in the United States for longer than five years; the ban only applies to some programs; some states provide welfare to new immigrants with their own money; by becoming citizens immigrants become eligible for all welfare programs; and perhaps most importantly, the U.S.-born children of immigrants (including those born to illegal immigrants) are automatically awarded American citizenship and are therefore eligible for all welfare programs at birth.

• An unwillingness to work is not the reason immigrant welfare use is high. The vast majority (95 percent) of immigrant households with children had at least one worker in 2009. But their low education levels mean that more than half of these working immigrant households with children still accessed the welfare system during 2009.

• Welfare use tends to be high for both new arrivals and established residents. In 2009, 60 percent of households with children headed by an immigrant who arrived in 2000 or later used at least one welfare program; for households headed by immigrants who arrived before 2000 it was 55 percent.

I think if we could actually close the border, and we could if we wanted to bad enough, this problem would fade away and we could decide what we want to do with the illegals here now without hysteria.

Securing the border only solves part of the problem. 40% of the illegal aliens came here legally and overstayed their visas. We need to track and deport visa overstays and shut off the job magnet.


179 posted on 10/30/2011 8:52:17 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Miss Marple

Hah! Miss Marple, you sound like my husband. He is much older than you and seems to be one of those people that smoking doesn’t bother much. Everytime he takes those lung capacity tests, he does better than me. Also he doesn’t cough or hack.

He thinks people wouldn’t be so cranky if they would just smoke !!

I tell him that if smokers would stop sitting around enjoying a cigarette and drinking martinis, they could do something.

20% of people smoke. What percent of people are gay and look what they’re able to do for their cause.

12% are black and they have clout.

13% are Mexican or hispanic and they’re out marching and stuff.

But you smokers just sit around enjoying yourselves and therefore you are consigned to either hell or having to stand pathetically outside buildings trying to light your smokes in the wind.

Form groups, march, do something, you people.

Maybe if you threatened to quit smoking the feds would panic at the loss of income and cut you a break.


180 posted on 10/30/2011 8:53:30 AM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: altura
Should we cut off benefits to those families entirely? That’s a poser. And what about the children born here? Are they citizens or not. I’ve read opinions both ways.,

They are citizens thru jus solis i.e., birthright citizenship. They are issued passports and have all the rights and privileges of any citizen of this country. Congress would have to pass a law to change it and if it fails to pass constitutional muster, we would have to pass a Constitutional amendment. Scholars differ on what would be needed to change the current practice that is part of US Code.

181 posted on 10/30/2011 8:56:34 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

I would love to see the fraud stats re immigrants of all stripes.Has to be horrendous.


182 posted on 10/30/2011 8:57:46 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: kabar

That looks similar to the study I read.

I was merciful enough not to post the whole thing, though.

(hah)

Perhaps the entire welfare system needs to be revamped considering the fact that the so-called poor are not any poorer than the household I grew up in long ago in which nobody would have dreamed of expecting any sort of federal assistance.


183 posted on 10/30/2011 9:00:39 AM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: Fishtalk
Daughter uses bandwidth from a neighbor

If she doesn't have permission, she is stealing.

184 posted on 10/30/2011 9:01:12 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
It seems Huntsman referred to him as a
“well lubricated weather-vane on the issues.”

OUCH!......
**RUB / RUB**
That's gonna leave a big mark.


185 posted on 10/30/2011 9:05:30 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (I can take tomorrow, spend it all today. Who can take your income, tax it all away. Obama Man can. :)
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To: kabar

I live in bear country.

Folks here learn quickly that if you allow bears to eat food intended for humans on your property, whether it’s fallen fruit or thrown away food scraps, not only will they press ever closer to your house, they will return next year with their cubs!

Don’t feed the fracking bears! Is that so hard to figure out?


186 posted on 10/30/2011 9:06:23 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: altura
I don’t know who or how they managed to make smoking a sin.

Someone on FR (I forget who) suggested that the change came when the tobacco-producing states went Republican! Back in the Solid (Democrat) South days, tobacco company money went to Democrat politicians!

187 posted on 10/30/2011 9:06:43 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Jeff Chandler

It’s petty theft though. Or is that pretty theft.

All the neighbor has to do is protect her connection.

I have an open connection and my next-door neighbor always used my bandwidth ... our computers were pretty close together. She laughed about it and so did I.

Believe me, she did enough for me so that I could spare her a little bandwidth.


188 posted on 10/30/2011 9:07:21 AM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: Bernard
...David Gregory reading a quote of how Steve jobs distorted reality by being arguments to meet his plans, along with a mention that “this made schedules hard to meet” or something along those lines. Then Davey made a comment that we need a leader like that in DC to get things done.

A distorted reality which led him to chase a false cure for his cancer when a surgical cure could have save his life? It does bare some resemblance to the type of leadership we are getting from our current president, chasing false solutions to our economic woes. But then, I think Obama wants the US to die.

189 posted on 10/30/2011 9:08:11 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: rodguy911
The costs must be huge. FAIR estimates that illegals cost us $113 billion a year just for education, health care, and incarceration. I know they are much higher when you throw in fraud. And the presence of illegals impacts on the drawing of congressional districts and the allocation of federal money. For example, California would have fewer congressional seats if we eliminated illegals and LPRs from the count.


190 posted on 10/30/2011 9:09:40 AM PDT by kabar
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To: altura

I didn’t post the entire study. You should read it. Can you provide the link to your study? I would be interested in reading it since I spend my time lobbying on the Hill and in Richmond on the immigration issue.


191 posted on 10/30/2011 9:13:17 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Bushbacker1
NBC is about to go off cliff's edge. While traveling for a couple of weeks, I viewed more NBC than usual and have noted such propaganda spewing from Brian Williams mouth, it's almost unbelievable.

I wonder if Williams actually believes that crap he spews and perhaps wants to distance himself from the propaganda machine that is NBC (owned by GE, in bed with Obie). He's debuting a prime-time show this week. He hosted Today Friday, perhaps to plug his show, or maybe to further shift his image away from the 'spewer of lies" image on Nightly News.

You are correct, it is a full court press for Obama. I can't imagine how Williams sleeps at night. I give him more credit, so I hope he's losing debates with his producers who clearly have an agenda and instructions from the top floors of 30 Rock. Jeez....WAPO "journalists" appearing as experts, lying ,covering, omitting to help Obie.

192 posted on 10/30/2011 9:13:33 AM PDT by chiller ( Elect another batch of TPartiers and it won't matter which R we elect. WE will lead.)
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To: headsonpikes

Bears don’t vote.


193 posted on 10/30/2011 9:14:30 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Miss Marple
When I was a child, smokers were everywhere. People smoked on airplanes, in college lecture halls, in grocery stores as they shopped, in offices, in government buildings.

I live in a small town (14K), small apartment complex (20 units). The complex mainly has older folk (like me) who seem to be more permanent residents and young 20-ish couples who typically stay a few months and then move out.

The one startling thing I have noticed with the young couples is that most of them (male and female) are smokers. PSA's bashing smokers started in the mid 80s. Apparently, the PSA's are not working any more. And that huge extortion 'tobacco settlement' money is not paying for the right kind of no-smoking educational programs.

I quit smoking in early 2003, mainly because of the cost. I wonder how this young couple manage to afford the habit. When I quit, a carton was about $40 and I was smoking 3 a month. I think the cost is now about $70/carton.


194 posted on 10/30/2011 9:20:20 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: rodguy911
Newt: He shows how drilling our own crude solves the balance of payments, unemployment, money to govt. problems and quickly. Lets hope its adopted at some point before its too late.

I thank my lucky stars that there IS a solution to our economic problems. Perry seems almost as strong on this as Newt, and suspect Perry may well win the nomination because of it.

195 posted on 10/30/2011 9:21:36 AM PDT by chiller ( Elect another batch of TPartiers and it won't matter which R we elect. WE will lead.)
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To: BagCamAddict

The way I look at campaigns is that they tell us what they would like to see happen in an ideal world. That tells me what is in their heart and mind, what their values are, what their philosophies are, what they would fight for or against.


Well, I agree with this. And Cain, Perry and Bachmann have all said they want to RAISE my taxes if they can. I’m not voting for that.


196 posted on 10/30/2011 9:22:01 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: altura

Hush and eat your peas, Paleo.


LOL! Had some just yesterday. Yum. And the BEST thing was, there was no 9 percent federal surtax on them.


197 posted on 10/30/2011 9:23:30 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: MNJohnnie
Because until your reform the tax code and broadenthe tax base so
everyone has skin in the game spending guts are always temporary.

Good point...of course...
his (Cain) problem is...any preconceived cost cutting
is going raise questions..."about his heartlessness"
Cain's retort: "Where's is this; in the US Constitution..
we don't have the $$$$"


198 posted on 10/30/2011 9:25:57 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (I can take tomorrow, spend it all today. Who can take your income, tax it all away. Obama Man can. :)
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To: kabar

Sorry, I don’t remember, but the charts and graphs you posted looked familiar.

I’m sure I didn’t study it as closely as you did.

So, since you are actually involved, what do you propose doing?

Cutting off all benefits to illegals unless they have children who are citizens?

I think we should seriously study all benefit programs. There is surely much waste and fraud.


199 posted on 10/30/2011 9:26:00 AM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Additionally, the RATs have painted the budget into such a corner that some obvious and necessary cuts (SS) are real complicated and would take a phase-in as we have heard in the past. (Bush’s meager modification called “privatizing sosh-security)

Try playing the budget cutting game yourself...search “Budget Hero”


Just 4 years ago the budget was about $1 trillion less than now. It CAN be done—’cause it already has been.

That said, my dispute is with a gaggle of Repuke wannabe monkeys who are running on a “my tax plan is better” platform that basically raises taxes on me and many others though I really care MUCH more about me.

You never hear anyone mention the billions of kickback grants to phony “green energy” companies or corn growers or the millions pissed away buying .50 cals and grenades for Mexican invaders or the garbage political correct programs that infect every agency INCLUDING DOD which is stinking fat with tail to tooth, etc.

There’s plenty that can be cut—just start with every bogus regulation wielded by agencies, sell Fannie and Freddie off for a $1 and get out of the mortgage biz, close down student loans for which there is NO constitutional paltform, etc etc etc.

Cut cut cut cut cut.

The only monkey among the chimps talking cut cut cut cut is Ron Paul. He’s a screwy little dude who doesn’t care whether anyone likes him or not. I’ve always semi-disliked the guy myself but he’s the only conservative running at this point. If I had to vote for one of these characters it would be Paul

I’m a frickin’ Paulbot now. Stop trying to reason with me.


200 posted on 10/30/2011 9:35:39 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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