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U.S. Plans To Build Up Military Presence In Persian Gulf After Iraq Exit
RIA Novosti ^ | October 30, 2011

Posted on 10/30/2011 4:53:33 AM PDT by Strategy

The U.S. administration plans to build up the American military presence in the Persian Gulf after it withdraws the remaining troops from Iraq by the end of this year, The New York Times reported on Sunday, referring to diplomatic sources.

(Excerpt) Read more at en.ria.ru ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: bahrain; iran; iraq; islam; israel; kuwait; middleeast; oman; qatar; saudiarabia; unitedarabemirates

1 posted on 10/30/2011 4:53:38 AM PDT by Strategy
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To: Strategy

They should do the build-up on the ground, the gulf is a bit too wet this time of year.


2 posted on 10/30/2011 4:56:15 AM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: Strategy

Someone finally told Obama that if Iraq starts falling apart during the 2012 campaign, it will be another nail in his political coffin.


3 posted on 10/30/2011 4:59:26 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Cain for President - Because I like the content of his character)
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To: Strategy
well, if they're only planning on looking intimidating, it isn't going to have any effect.
4 posted on 10/30/2011 5:02:36 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Erik Latranyi

No. They will remind everybody that it was Bush who negotiated the Iraq withdrawal treaty if it turns bad.


5 posted on 10/30/2011 5:05:41 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Strategy

Isn’t that the way it all started back before Gulf War I?


6 posted on 10/30/2011 5:07:49 AM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: Strategy
At the same time, the U.S. administration and the military are trying to foster a new "security architecture" for the Persian Gulf that would integrate air and naval patrols and missile defense, the paper said. The size of the American combat force to be stationed in Kuwait remains the subject of negotiations, with an answer expected in coming days, the paper said.

What a bunch or rank amateurs! They have no fargin plan whatsoever and are trying to do this on the fly. Would one ever think of starting this when they were meeting resistance from Iraq? Noooooo! These idiots were bargaining with no chits in the game. Would Iraq give up the gravy train if they knew a back up deal was impending? Geez! I learned how this part of the world operates when I would go to the Grand Bazar in Teheran in the 70's. Its not like going to WalMart. The entertainment is in making the deal and walking away from it several times. I had the cash, the store keeper wanted it. He had to deal or I would just walk away. When I stopped at the next store, he sent his houseboy to tug on my arm to get me back.

7 posted on 10/30/2011 5:17:13 AM PDT by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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8 posted on 10/30/2011 5:42:32 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Strategy

Back peddle, back peddle


9 posted on 10/30/2011 5:50:40 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: Strategy

Why leave at all? We already have complete bases in Iraq.


10 posted on 10/30/2011 6:11:09 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Strategy
The U.S. administration plans to build up the American military presence in the Persian Gulf after it withdraws the remaining troops from Iraq...

Move them out and the draw a plan to move them back in?

Sounds like digging a hole just to fill it in again...

Can't these people do ANYTHING to save a buck?

11 posted on 10/30/2011 6:12:22 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Why leave at all? We already have complete bases in Iraq.

Not true. The Iraq government said we would not be allowed to keep the basis.

12 posted on 10/30/2011 6:41:25 AM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: Evil Slayer

ooops.....basis = bases


13 posted on 10/30/2011 6:45:42 AM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: Strategy

Either fight the war or come home. We have to stop garrisoning all of the world.


14 posted on 10/30/2011 6:45:50 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Strategy
Prelude to war. We all knew premature withdrawal from theater, announcing the date in advance would merely embolden our adversaries. The result being an inevitable return to hostilities involving an even greater number of belligerents in an expanded regional conflict. Local Westernized potentates may crave our military assistance, but they don't want our filthy infidel feet treading in their sandbox. And, we're not prepared to tangle with all the muslim uprisings poised to launch throughout the oil-rich kingdoms. Force projection by carrier group: wrong tool for the job though it may be, it's the only card we've got left. So, we will float off their shores, and fly sorties. None of this would matter, if we drill here. Drill now.
15 posted on 10/30/2011 7:14:40 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Strategy

I thought everyone loved us because of Dear Leader?


16 posted on 10/30/2011 7:15:25 AM PDT by PghBaldy (War Powers Res: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/warpower.asp)
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To: Strategy
Wonderful.....what a waste and total disrespect for the lives lost and altered by 10 years of war.

I swear, what a bunch of bastards, they have no regard for lives or resources. Now we will retreat then kill off a bunch of troops regaining the ground again.....go ahead boys capture hill 403 again this week.

This is not a video game soldiers, husbands and fathers do not return just because obama hits the rest button.

I have to walk away before I get banned and a secret service visit.

17 posted on 10/30/2011 7:21:59 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Strategy

This will only bring our troops under fire from Al Queda in another country. They will see our retreaat from Iraq as fear or crumbling resolve.


18 posted on 10/30/2011 7:54:59 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: Erik Latranyi; Strategy
Someone finally told Obama that if Iraq starts falling apart during the 2012 campaign, it will be another nail in his political coffin.

Someone?

You mean big oil....

19 posted on 10/30/2011 7:57:42 AM PDT by Doofer ("If debt is the problem, how is more debt the solution"?)
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To: Kakaze

Same here. Words are not cutting it for me. I can’t even conceive the level of gross, rank, amateur stupidity combined with arrogance and disrespect for the military or any other adviser from the “establishment”.

The stupid clown has no idea and doesn’t care that every asset we have in the theater will have to divert to do his bidding and that still won’t be enough. Think about it folks... the guys in Afghanistan get 1/3 of their stuff by air and it takes all we’ve got to get it there. No Christmas packages for our guys this year. obastard has to make a political stand with our tax dollars and at the expense of our troops.

It IS amateur hour for insolence in the whitey house.

I never thought anybody could be this stupid, including the electorate. It is all a game to these cretins. They live in a world where there is no consequence. All the way to the asshat hillary and her button for the soviets. When I saw that I thought, perfect, it typifies the whole outfit. Yuk it up assH, these aren’t your friends.

I just want to choke the living .... out of someone who so richly deserves it.

I have to walk away, the further I go the madder I get and it seems to only hurt me. Hate is just too weak for what I feel.


20 posted on 10/30/2011 8:37:46 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: redgolum

Just come home. I’m tired of us being the personal mercenary force for the Arabs.


21 posted on 10/30/2011 9:34:26 AM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: Erik Latranyi

“Someone finally told Obama”

It’s got nothing to do with bummer.


22 posted on 10/30/2011 10:22:19 AM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: PowderMonkey
U.S. Energy Information Administration
"How dependent are we on foreign oil?
The United States imported about 49% of the petroleum,1 which includes crude oil and refined petroleum products, that we consumed during 2010. About half of these imports came from the Western Hemisphere. Our dependence on foreign petroleum has declined since peaking in 2005.
"


23 posted on 10/30/2011 10:27:04 AM PDT by familyop ("Dry land is not just our destination, it is our destiny!" --Deacon character, "Waterworld")
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To: americanophile
I’m tired of us being the personal mercenary force for the Arabs.

bttt

24 posted on 10/30/2011 11:52:57 AM PDT by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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To: Strategy

Good thing we are gutting the Dept of Defense.


25 posted on 10/30/2011 12:47:59 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: familyop

Yep. About 25 percent from the Western hemisphere. And Iran has established a military presence adjacent to all those sources. We’re still relying on imports for about 50%of our oil needs. Still comfortable with not drilling here. Not drilling now? Perhaps you were too young to remember the Arab Oil Embargo?


26 posted on 10/30/2011 2:01:23 PM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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thanks Strategy, additional:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2799918/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2800098/posts


27 posted on 10/30/2011 4:58:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: PowderMonkey
"Yep. About 25 percent from the Western hemisphere. And Iran has established a military presence adjacent to all those sources. We’re still relying on imports for about 50%of our oil needs. Still comfortable with not drilling here. Not drilling now? Perhaps you were too young to remember the Arab Oil Embargo?"

I worked for an oil company during that embargo. Let's put the situation in perspective. Last year, we imported only about 25% of our oil from the eastern hemisphere. That will be covered with the Keystone XL pipeline and other oil from our nearest neighbor to the north. As for "drill here, drill now" is a political slogan from socialist government income recipients (including local), who refuse to acknowledge that we are already drilling here and will do so more.

We don't have an oil problem. We have a problem with traitors--stale bunches of out-of-touch, spoiled weirdos, who love foreign communist nations more than ours and the local, yocal socialists, who suck up to the aforementioned by regulating against any new, small manufacturing operations in their locales. Lack of manufacturing and too many social pathologies in policies. Those are the problems that will be corrected in the near future because of our lack of buying or working for enemies within.


28 posted on 10/30/2011 6:56:30 PM PDT by familyop ("Dry land is not just our destination, it is our destiny!" --Deacon character, "Waterworld")
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