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Cain: I'm "pro-life from conception, period"
See BS ^ | October 30, 2011 | Lucy Madison

Posted on 10/30/2011 10:08:40 AM PDT by markomalley

Herman Cain again attempted to clarify his position on abortion Sunday, declaring on CBS' "Face the Nation" that "I am pro-life from conception, period" - and that he does not support exceptions even for victims of rape and incest.

"I am pro-life from conception, period. If people look at many speeches that I have given over the years, that has and will still be my position," Cain told CBS' Bob Schieffer.

Cain's position on abortion has been questioned in recent weeks, after the candidate suggested in an interview on CNN that decisions about abortion should be left to families, not the government.

"What I'm saying is, it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make," Cain said in that interview. "Not me as president, not some politician, not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide. I shouldn't have to tell them what decision to make for such a sensitive issue."

Cain has since maintained his pro-life stance on abortion, but many have said his comments seem to indicate otherwise.

Cain said today that the CNN interview was "taken totally out of context" and suggested that his comments were misrepresentative of his actual beliefs.

"So in other words you don't... would not even believe in abortion if rape, incest or the health of the mother was involved?" asked Schieffer.

"Yes, that's my position," he said. "Thanks for having me clear that up."

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KEYWORDS: abortion; cain; hermancain; moralabsolutes; prolife
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1 posted on 10/30/2011 10:08:46 AM PDT by markomalley
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2 posted on 10/30/2011 10:14:31 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: markomalley
"What I'm saying is, it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make,"

If abortion is outlawed and a woman decides to go to a back alley for her abortion, Cain is absolutely correct. That is HER decision.

Perhaps if back alley abortions came back, there would be fewer abortions and A LOT more women keeping their legs closed.

3 posted on 10/30/2011 10:17:31 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (Stay involved..because stupid people are running America! - Herman Cain - Amen!!!)
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To: markomalley
"What I'm saying is, it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make,"

That particular statement was about ADOPTION.

4 posted on 10/30/2011 10:24:21 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: NoGrayZone

He also did very well ti cite Margaret Sanger who founded Planned Parenthood on the basis of eugenics. Cain was more direct and I’m hoping that every liberal black person was watching and goes out to check it for themselves.

Cain has the focus of the media to be able to now tear down the Wizard’s curtain, forever.


5 posted on 10/30/2011 10:29:28 AM PDT by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: markomalley
"Herman Cain again attempted to clarify his position"

This template is the media strategy for Cain: "Once again, Cain is attempting to clarify and reverse a prior statement." In reality, he was consistent from the start.

6 posted on 10/30/2011 10:30:27 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: mazda77

Yes he did. Margaret’s main focus was to eliminate the black race.

Remember that gigantic ad in NYC they were forced to take down....”The most dangerous place for a black baby is in it’s mothers womb”.

How true.


7 posted on 10/30/2011 10:34:27 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (Stay involved..because stupid people are running America! - Herman Cain - Amen!!!)
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To: UnwashedPeasant
Cain: I'm "pro-life from conception, period"

How much more "clarification" is needed for goodness sakes!

8 posted on 10/30/2011 10:36:40 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (Stay involved..because stupid people are running America! - Herman Cain - Amen!!!)
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To: markomalley

Why is there never debate on the issue of Abstinence?

When I was growing up, you didn’t have sex until you were married. I have no idea what the numbers are on abortion 40 years ago vs. now. But I do know that NO ONE talks about NOT HAVING SEX in the first place.

All everyone talks about is what happens after two people, who have absolutely not planned to have a child together, end up with the female pregnant. And by “end up with the female being pregnant,” I mean having sex for the sake of sex, not for the sake of making love in a committed relationship with the intent of creating a family.

We have focused so much on the abortion argument that we have absolutely lost sight of the bigger issue: The morality of rampant sex, particularly in younger people.

To me, talking about abortion (while a completely worthwhile topic) is the finger in the dam. How about we repair the dam by preventing the pregnancies in the first place? How about we get back to a more moral base and encourage our children to abstain from sex until they are (a) mature enough to handle it, (b) married, and (c) able to plan for a pregnancy, rather than having an “oops” pregnancy.

Sigh.


9 posted on 10/30/2011 10:50:42 AM PDT by BagCamAddict (Order 15 Herman Cain Yard Signs for $130: https://store.hermancain.com/orderform.asp?pid=20)
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10 posted on 10/30/2011 10:53:37 AM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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11 posted on 10/30/2011 11:00:39 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: markomalley

’ “So in other words you don’t... would not even believe in abortion if rape, incest or the health of the mother was involved?” asked Schieffer.
“Yes, that’s my position,” he said. “

In 2004 , Cain supported an exception if the life of the mother was threatened.

In 1998 , he supported multiple exceptions.
Interview with his trade group magazine, The National Restaurant News ;

“Too many people in the electorate are single-issue voters,” he commented, “and to try and cater to the single-issue voters
and the single-issue pockets out there felt like
I was compromising my beliefs.
As an example, with the pro-life and pro-abortion debate,
the most vocal people are on the ends.
I am pro-life with exceptions,
and people want you to be all or nothing.”

He added, “I am not a social-issue crusader.
I am a free-enterprise crusader.”


12 posted on 10/30/2011 11:16:56 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: All; markomalley
Rick Santorum is exploiting this abortion confusion to the hilt in a new attack ad on Cain.
13 posted on 10/30/2011 11:21:42 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelected Obama.)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

Without easily verifiable sources, the progression you claim for Cain’s view is one that is increasingly pro-life.


14 posted on 10/30/2011 11:29:21 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelected Obama.)
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To: BagCamAddict
The culture changed and we have your generation to thank for it.

Only parents can instill the values you espouse and parents now don't believe in them. It's not the proper role of gov't to provide moral teaching. It will fail every time when it's not simply reinforcing values in the home.

15 posted on 10/30/2011 11:34:46 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelected Obama.)
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To: NoGrayZone

I’m so glad you get it. It was dismaying in the past couple of weeks to see the Perrytistas try to distort this response from Cain. I thought they were brain dead or just in a lather over Ricardo’s Marlboromanliesque. I’m still thinking that’s their motivation, they’re probably not quite brain dead... that Mrs. C can post as if she had 6 hands.


16 posted on 10/30/2011 11:35:14 AM PDT by Carl from Marietta (Cain, there's a new sherrif in town.)
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To: markomalley

yes.


17 posted on 10/30/2011 11:41:27 AM PDT by ken21
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To: newzjunkey
The culture changed

Exactly. And that is how I have viewed not only Cain's but Palin's approach to the subject. In true chicken and egg fashion, which comes first, the law or the culture? A law written in total defiance of the culture has no force. It truly is just words on paper. Enforcement flows from belief. Both Palin and Cain have emphasized that the truly fundamental change that will make it safer to be an unborn child will be the first line of defense, a broad cultural acceptance of the value of human life. Good laws will follow good culture.

18 posted on 10/30/2011 12:01:04 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: markomalley

Somehow I missed the interview where he go tripped up or something. All I have ever seen is Mr. Cain saying he was 100% pro-life. He even expressed his position clearly to the horror of the liberal vipers on The View. Unfortunately it is his fellow conservative contenders who are doing their very best to create confusion on this.


19 posted on 10/30/2011 12:05:40 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: markomalley

“..even believe in abortion if rape, incest or the health of the mother was involved?”

I do not agree with Cain on this issue. A woman that has been raped or impregnated by a relative or her life is in danger should have the choice to terminate the pregnancy.


20 posted on 10/30/2011 12:08:37 PM PDT by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Unfortunately, Mr. Cain was talking about abortion today, and during the Morgan/CNN interview. He never mentioned adoption in that discussion.

He gave the same confusing answer in July, 2011 on the Stossel show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WELkanHrSqw

and he didn’t mention adoption the day after the Morgan interview, on Fox
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyeAsWV9HEc


21 posted on 10/30/2011 12:13:07 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed: Will use. Cut spending, cut spending, cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: markomalley

“I am pro-life from conception, period” - and that he does not support exceptions even for victims of rape and incest.”

Cain has proven himself to be the only real conservative in the GOP race and is the only candidate worthy of support.


22 posted on 10/30/2011 12:54:38 PM PDT by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: panaxanax

“A woman that has been raped or impregnated by a relative or her life is in danger should have the choice to terminate the pregnancy.”

Then, you must also believe that a mother who was the victim of rape or incest should have the choice to murder her child when he is ten years old.


23 posted on 10/30/2011 12:56:54 PM PDT by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: markomalley
Herman Cain

born December 13, 1945 in Memphis, TN (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Luther Cain Jr., born March 16, 1925 in TN, died March 29, 1982 in Atlanta, GA
Lenora Davis, born July 27, 1925 in GA, died August 20, 2005 in Atlanta, GA

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Herman Cain is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

”Herman

Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama ISN'T!

Click on the cane.

24 posted on 10/30/2011 1:01:35 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: markomalley
"So in other words you don't... would not even believe in abortion if rape, incest or the health of the mother was involved?" asked Schieffer. . . "Yes, that's my position," he said. "Thanks for having me clear that up."

It doesn't clear it up for me, Herman. Do you want it a federal law banning it all those cases? If so, should the women who have abortions be subject to it or just the abortionist? Do you even want Roe V. Wade overturned?

I'm confident that you are a yes on the last point, but your answers seem to indicate that you don't understand the debate.

If Perry goes away, I think you are going to be gutted, skinned and nailed to the barn door by the establishment in less than 999 seconds.

25 posted on 10/30/2011 1:09:40 PM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: newzjunkey
The confusion is Rick Santorum thinking he's not Rick Lazio. Herman Cain is down-to-the-ground righteous.
26 posted on 10/30/2011 1:14:51 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: Tribune7

“If Perry goes away, I think you are going to be gutted, skinned and nailed to the barn door by the establishment in less than 999 seconds.”

Rick Perry has gone away as he is polling at 4% and is not relevant in this race.


27 posted on 10/30/2011 1:20:04 PM PDT by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: trumandogz
Rick Perry has gone away as he is polling at 4% and is not relevant in this race.

Rick Perry has not gone away. He has not announced he's dropping out and he's got tons of money and some influential endorsements.

If Perry announces he's quitting expect the hacking to start on Cain.

BTW, if Perry does quit Cain becomes my guy and I hope he can stand up to what comes.

28 posted on 10/30/2011 1:24:17 PM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: mazda77
Hi mazda77,

Cain has the focus of the media to be able to now tear down the Wizard’s curtain, forever.


Praying for that to happen.

When the time comes my house will vote for Herman Cain. Never, ever for Romney. No way for Perry. Newt had his chance and blew it.

Herman Cain is the real deal.

29 posted on 10/30/2011 1:26:40 PM PDT by Tomato lover (Jesus is the way, the truth and the light)
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To: Tribune7

Perry only has 4% to give to the race.

In other words, if he were to drop out of the race on Monday, his 4% would hardly be a factor when distributed among the remaining candidates.


30 posted on 10/30/2011 1:28:01 PM PDT by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: markomalley
"As to my political policy view on abortion, I am 100% pro-life. End of story."

"I will appoint judges who understand the original intent of the Constitution. Judges who are committed to the rule of law know that the Constitution contains no right to take the life of unborn children."

"I will oppose government funding of abortion. I will veto any legislation that contains funds for Planned Parenthood. I will do everything that a President can do, consistent with his constitutional role, to advance the culture of life."

Herman Cain


31 posted on 10/30/2011 1:37:08 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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National Right to Life: Herman Cain is Fully Pro-Life

GOP12.com: Cain on abortion

"I do not believe that abortion should be legal in this country if that is the question." - Herman Cain

32 posted on 10/30/2011 1:43:04 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Tomato lover
Enjoy


33 posted on 10/30/2011 1:44:33 PM PDT by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: trumandogz

Not at all.

Would you want your daughter to be forced to raise a baby by someone that raped and tortured her....reliving the rape every time she looked at the baby?

If so, you would be sentencing your daughter to a lifetime of terror and most likely severe mental illness. Why destroy two lives?

I’m on the “Cain Train” for now, but his absolutist statement has made me rethink. Same with Santorum who said the same thing and fell big-time in the polls the day after.


34 posted on 10/30/2011 4:04:15 PM PDT by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: trumandogz

Right on! adoption works.


35 posted on 10/30/2011 4:06:14 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where INVITED Freepers will meet again next summer. Jim Robinson Too)
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To: mazda77

He also did very well ti cite Margaret Sanger who founded Planned Parenthood on the basis of eugenics. Cain was more direct and I’m hoping that every liberal black person was watching and goes out to check it for themselves.


He said that? Wow, excellent. And finally. I too hope black women faced with an unwanted pregnancy think about that.


36 posted on 10/30/2011 4:07:04 PM PDT by Yaelle (Raise Cain this weekend! Send him $9.99!)
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To: newzjunkey

Santorum is wasting money on ads? That alone proves he would make a bad President. Doesn’t have good economic sense.


37 posted on 10/30/2011 4:09:41 PM PDT by Yaelle (Raise Cain this weekend! Send him $9.99!)
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To: panaxanax

Would you want your daughter to be forced to raise a baby by someone that raped and tortured her....reliving the rape every time she looked at the baby?

If so, you would be sentencing your daughter to a lifetime of terror and most likely severe mental illness. Why destroy two lives?


Ok, you are pretty far from reality. I don’t remember his name but we have a fellow freeper here who came to be after his mother, a young virgin, was raped by a stranger, long before any morning after pills, and not only was this man adored by his mother, but he is enjoying his life! Life! Always choose it.

The unborn are innocent of however they were conceived.

But I do believe in letting rape victims take hormone pills the next day to make their uterus inhospitable, ie the morning after pill. Most likely she wasn’t pregnant anyway, so I approve of the now standard morning after pill for raped girls. Fast enough and the egg hadn’t met the sperm yet anyway!


38 posted on 10/30/2011 4:20:52 PM PDT by Yaelle (Raise Cain this weekend! Send him $9.99!)
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To: panaxanax

Why do you believe it is okay to murder a child that was conceived by rape?


39 posted on 10/30/2011 4:49:19 PM PDT by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: Yaelle

Should a mother be able to murder her five year old child if that child was conceived via rape?


40 posted on 10/30/2011 4:58:07 PM PDT by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: hocndoc
He gave the same confusing answer in July, 2011 on the Stossel show http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WELkanHrSqw

From your link Cain said "abortion should be illegal."

41 posted on 10/30/2011 4:58:38 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Yaelle

???

First you tell me that I’m “pretty far from reality” then you say you’re in favor of the ‘morning after’ pill, i.e., a medical abortion.

???


42 posted on 10/30/2011 5:27:19 PM PDT by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: trumandogz

Because I don’t think it is fair or safe for a 12 year-old little girl that was raped by her own father, brother, uncle, etc. to be forced to give birth to a child.


43 posted on 10/30/2011 5:38:48 PM PDT by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: panaxanax

How about that little baby in the womb of that 12 year-old girl?

Do you not believe that little baby is Created Equal to you and I?

Does that little baby have rights guaranteed to him in the Constitution’s 14th Amendment?


44 posted on 10/30/2011 5:50:12 PM PDT by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: trumandogz

How about the rights of the little girl?

It is clear that you would force your own daughter to live a life of despair and suffer both physical and emotional pain beyond description.

Nuff said on this issue.


45 posted on 10/30/2011 6:53:47 PM PDT by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: panaxanax

“It is clear that you would force your own daughter to live a life of despair and suffer both physical and emotional pain beyond description.”

Somehow, I do not believe the fear of living a life of despair and pain is justification for murder.

But, go ahead and murder another human being and tell the court you killed that person because you think that sometime in the future, that person might cause you a little despair.


46 posted on 10/30/2011 7:06:13 PM PDT by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: trumandogz

If Perry has 4% of the delegates after Super Tuesday, he will drop out of the race.


47 posted on 10/30/2011 7:07:03 PM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: FreeReign

He said in that first 20 seconds that he doesn’t think the Government should make that decision when Stossel asked “Any cases when it should be illegal?” Mr. Cain keeps saying it’s the woman’s choice. How will government not be involved in making abortion illegal, and if it’s illegal, how can it be the woman’s choice?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WELkanHrSqw


48 posted on 10/30/2011 7:14:01 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed: Will use. Cut spending, cut spending, cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: Carl from Marietta

Just watch the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WELkanHrSqw

I wouldn’t know where to start distorting Mr. Cain’s comments.


49 posted on 10/30/2011 7:18:50 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed: Will use. Cut spending, cut spending, cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: hocndoc
From your link Cain said "abortion should be illegal."

He said in that first 20 seconds that he doesn’t think the Government should make that decision when Stossel asked “Any cases when it should be illegal?

You're giving false information.

Stossel asked Cain, "are there any cases where abortion should be LEGAL?".

Cain's answer was that the government should not make that decision..."that decision" meaning a decision to MAKE IT LEGAL.

And there should be no confusion what so ever after he said, "abortion should be illegal".

You are spreading false information.

50 posted on 10/30/2011 8:06:41 PM PDT by FreeReign
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