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Perry turns in gaffe-less performance on Fox (Video Bonus!)
Washington Examiner ^ | 10-30-2011 | Philip Klein

Posted on 10/30/2011 12:21:46 PM PDT by smoothsailing

Perry turns in gaffe-less performance on Fox

by Philip Klein - Senior Editorial Writer

October 30, 2011

These days, no news is good news for Texas Gov. Rick Perry. In the first two months of his presidential campaign, Perry's media appearances have been associated with blunders, a big reason why he quickly tumbled from frontrunner status to the back of the pack in polls. But in an extended interview with Fox News Sunday's Chris Wallace this morning in Austin, Perry was able to stay completely on message and was unrattled by critical questions about his campaign and policy proposals.

“I’ve laid out a plan, and I’ve got the record and courage to put that in place,” Perry told Wallace, getting at the heart of the case for his candidacy. The clear message was that his new tax and spending plan was superior to Herman Cain's 9-9-9 plan while his record as a conservative governor in Texas and willingness to stick to his principles makes him a better choice than Mitt Romney.

“I have been a consistent conservative," Perry said. "I have always been in favor of the Second Amendment, protecting the Second Amendment, I’ve always been pro-life. I’ve always been a fiscal conservative. And Mitt’s been on both sides of those issues. He’s been for a ban on guns in Massachusetts. He’s been for pro-abortion. He’s been for supporting gay rights and now, he’s on the other side of those issues.”

When Perry released his plan this week, one question was whether he'd be able to defend it in interviews and debates. At least this morning, he was able to deflect Wallace's challenges to it, at least in a way that would reassure conservative primary voters.

For instance, when asked if his plan would blow a hole in the federal budget given that it would slash revenues, Perry talked about the economic growth that would help generate revenue and the spending cuts that would accompany lower taxes.

When Wallace followed up by asking the usual trap question for Republicans about what specific area they would cut, Perry noted that Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., had released a plan detailing $9 trillion in possible cuts, and then explained a specific education reform that would save $25 billion.

Policy analysts would quibble -- it would have been better had he spoken about how to reform Medicare, which is the biggest problem facing our nation's long-term budget outlook. But the point is, agree or disagree, he did provide cogent answers to questions about his plan.

This leaves us with the following questions about his candidacy: can Perry replicate this performance in the coming months, most importantly, in upcoming debates? And even if he does drastically improve as a candidate, has he already dug himself too deep of a hole to recover? A Des Moines Register poll taken this morning shows Cain at 23 percent, Romney at 22 percent and Perry in fifth place with just 7 percent.


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: patriot; perry; perryastroturfing; romneyperry2012
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To: smoothsailing
smoothsailing, president of the Perry fan club, has made a FR record posting Perry campaign threads.

Time left until smoothsailing's next Perry campaign thread:

18 minutes 45 seconds.

101 posted on 10/30/2011 2:35:20 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
#94, case in point.

I'm done on this thread, clearly it's just not worth it.

102 posted on 10/30/2011 2:37:02 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Yaelle; newzjunkey
we need someone who is bright, funny

Ah, the renowned and magical Herman Cain humor! :)

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103 posted on 10/30/2011 2:40:57 PM PDT by smoothsailing (FUMR-FUBO)
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To: bwc2221
How do you know a candidate is a pataetic loser?

When he can't spell! :)

104 posted on 10/30/2011 2:46:19 PM PDT by smoothsailing (FUMR-FUBO)
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To: usconservative

I hear ya.


105 posted on 10/30/2011 2:48:54 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: usconservative

He did apologize. He said he should not have said that people didn’t have a heart. I sincerely hope you will give him more consideration. He mentioned something I did not know: that the fed. govt. requires the states to educate children born here of illegals. He’s saying the feds refuse to deal with illegals at their level and expect the states to educate them. I do know that ICE doesn’t do a da** thing.

Peace


106 posted on 10/30/2011 2:52:58 PM PDT by katieanna
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To: smoothsailing
Whoa, I've seen those make believe propaganda toons over on the left side....the difference is this is real, yours is fantasy propaganda to smear the opposition:

Do you have any real Conservative arguments to support your candidate or is your so weak that you have to resort to childish bullshit?

This is FR not DUmmieland.

107 posted on 10/30/2011 2:56:55 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: dragnet2
LOL!

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108 posted on 10/30/2011 2:59:15 PM PDT by smoothsailing (FUMR-FUBO)
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To: smoothsailing
See how easy it is:


109 posted on 10/30/2011 3:02:11 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: smoothsailing

The honesty and loyalty that both Perry and Romeny exhibit for their dangerously stupid ideas, in-state-tuition and RomenyCare respectively, is refreshing.

And very Walter Mondale-like.


110 posted on 10/30/2011 3:20:46 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: smoothsailing

I’m watching a rerun right now. I am not impressed. He answers different questions, looks uncomfortable.

And I think he DID make something of a gaff when after letting him go on about how unwise it for the federal government to subsidize private industry he was shown that he supported a federal subsidy for a nuclear plant in taxes.

Abada bada uhhhh, I’ve learned a lot since then.


111 posted on 10/30/2011 3:34:21 PM PDT by DManA
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To: usconservative
I guess you haven't been paying attention. That's how Rick Perry has explained several times. I think you're content being the Tin Man, have at it and be happy.
112 posted on 10/30/2011 3:54:59 PM PDT by Quicksilver (Defeat Obama - zero-sum games will get us Zero, again.)
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To: smoothsailing

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-news-sunday/index.html


113 posted on 10/30/2011 4:03:37 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: hocndoc

Great summary.

he was very strong today on POLCIES AND ACTION PLANS AND THE CONSERVATIVE PHILOSPHY!


114 posted on 10/30/2011 4:20:02 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: org.whodat

Exactly!

Like, this is big news! Perry went 26 minutes without making a gaffe!

Lordy.


115 posted on 10/30/2011 4:24:48 PM PDT by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: katieanna
He mentioned something I did not know: that the fed. govt. requires the states to educate children born here of illegals.

Not quite right. A SCOTUS decision required American citizens to fund, through their taxes, the education of children of illegals on the elementary and secondary levels.

There is no "fed. govt." requirement that we fund their COLLEGE education too.

116 posted on 10/30/2011 4:28:52 PM PDT by shhrubbery!
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To: TomGuy

Frank Luntz was on Hannity the next day talking about the focus group reaction to that very incident between Perry and Romney.

Luntz said the focus group absolutely HATED it, they thought Perry looked obnoxious and petty. It turned them off of Rick BIG-TIME.


117 posted on 10/30/2011 4:35:40 PM PDT by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: usconservative
In the future, when someone offers up CONSTRUCTIVE criticism and raises the alarm on something your candidate needs to address and fix so he can "move on" and put an issue behind him, you carefully consider what it is they have to say before going off half-cocked making accusations of which you know nothing about.

Bears repeating.

Oh, and don't cry about how no one wants to address the merits of your guy's plan, or whatever. Then when they do address the merits with constructive criticism, post back to them garbage such as, essentially, "why won't you just accept what this author is saying, that the plan is great? Do you not like the author?"

No, I'm not kidding.

118 posted on 10/30/2011 4:42:07 PM PDT by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
No matter what you say or how you say it you get attacked for having an underlying motive or some such, it's impossible to have a legitimate fair conversation.

And it just gets embarrassing after a while.

I mean, you post your reasoned objections to the guy's plan. And the response you get has nothing to do with addressing your reasoned objections.

Instead, it's something about how ignorant you are for not just accepting some dude's analysis that the plan is fantastic on all accounts.

That's just weird.

119 posted on 10/30/2011 4:47:54 PM PDT by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Do you have any real Conservative arguments to support your candidate...

LOL!


"Rick Perry announced his tax plan today, which I'll go on record as saying I, El Rushbo, think is great. It's fabulous. I like it. And the left is coming unhinged."

120 posted on 10/30/2011 5:05:53 PM PDT by smoothsailing (FUMR-FUBO)
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To: maine-iac7

Thanks for the link! :)


121 posted on 10/30/2011 5:13:12 PM PDT by smoothsailing (FUMR-FUBO)
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To: shield

I watched the interview and thought Perry was excellent. It’s too bad they titled the article this way as other candidates have made a number of gaffes recently.

Perry is great on the stump and in most sit down discussions. This is his venue and he should do a lot of it.


122 posted on 10/30/2011 5:31:41 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: smoothsailing
This leaves us with the following questions about his candidacy: can Perry replicate this performance in the coming months, most importantly, in upcoming debates? And even if he does drastically improve as a candidate, has he already dug himself too deep of a hole to recover? A Des Moines Register poll taken this morning shows Cain at 23 percent, Romney at 22 percent and Perry in fifth place with just 7 percent.

I'd have to say that no one dedicates this much time, effort, and money on a 'back of the pack' nobody. No one does.

That so many have dedicated so much against a so-called 'has-been' shows that he is nothing of the sort.

123 posted on 10/30/2011 5:36:03 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: gogogodzilla

I agree with you. I have been surprised by the fixation on a candidate who is supposedly “toast”.


124 posted on 10/30/2011 5:44:42 PM PDT by smoothsailing (FUMR-FUBO)
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To: Vasilli22

In this economy and with our record levels of debt and unemployment, and with our federal government practically forcing anal probes up the @sses of every last man, woman, and child in our country (TSA, overregulation)... I don’t really give a flying “eff” about it.

There are more important issues right now.


125 posted on 10/30/2011 5:48:26 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: smoothsailing

Nada ;o)


126 posted on 10/30/2011 5:49:52 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: smoothsailing
If you have the arguments....here's a clue....use them. Why is it necessary to build Perry by tearing down the other runners?

How about an honest debate of the pluses and minuses?

I remember back in 2008 I was called the most vile of names here for daring to critique Mc Cain (albeit just a few, but the same scenario is gelling now)

I have misgivings with EVERY candidate that is on this particular stage, but it is what it is.

Is it really any wonder the commies have succeed to where they are....gee, wonder how they did it.

127 posted on 10/30/2011 5:55:12 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: usconservative

usconservative: there are a lot of misconceptions out there and your concern is one of them. Hope this helps you.

The Supreme Court ruled that all states have to pay for the education of all students - legal or illegal.

The in-state tuition law in TX is for kids that were brought across by their illegal parents and have lived in Texas most of their lives. Texas has no choice but educate them to high school.

They PAY for their tuition. Some get financial aid from state and federal sources but they pay more then the aid that they get.

The NET profit from illegals and legals attending college under the TX in-state tuition law is over $11 million dollars.

Therefore, you do not pay for their tuition. No taxpayer does.


His original apology was a few days after saying it.
He has repeated it numerous times since.

Regarding Perry’s apology: this is the first page of google search hits out of almost 900,000 results:

Rick Perry apologizes for ‘heartless’ comment on immigration ...
thehill.com/.../184433-perry-apologies-for-heartless-immigration-co...
Sep 28, 2011 – break to the children of illegal immigrants did not have a heart. inappropriate,” Perry said in a interview with Newsmax.
Rick Perry Apologizes for ‘Heartless’ Immigration Comment During ...
www.theblaze.com/.../rick-perry-apologizes-for-heartless-immigratio...
Sep 28, 2011 – Will Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s immigration policies harm his presidential prospects? As time progresses, it seems like more and more ...
Rick Perry Apologizes For ‘Heartless’ Comment During Last Debate
www.thehotjoints.com/.../rick-perry-apologizes-for-heartless-comme...
Sep 29, 2011 – Rick Perry is sorry he called Conservatives who don’t support in-state tuition are “heartless” during the last GOP debate.
It’s About Time… Rick Perry Apologizes For Calling His Supporters ...
www.thegatewaypundit.com/.../its-about-time-rick-perry-apoligizes-f...
Sep 28, 2011 – Rick Perry Apologizes For Calling His Supporters “Heartless” (Video) ... But while Perry walked back his “heartless” comment, he insisted that ...
Afternoon Fix: Perry apologizes for calling DREAM Act foes heartless
www.washingtonpost.com/...perry-apologizes...heartless/.../gIQAXgL...
Sep 28, 2011 – Rick Perry says he shouldn’t have said that, Herman Cain says he’s not the ... Afternoon Fix: Perry apologizes for calling DREAM Act foes heartless .... SuperFan badge holders consistently post smart, timely comments about ...
Rick Perry “Apologizes” for “Heartless” Comment Regarding ...
brianekoenig.com/.../rick-perry-apologizes-for-heartless-comment-re...
Sep 29, 2011 – During the last GOP debate, Rick Perry, on the topic of the DREAM Act and its backwards notion of providing free education to illegal ...
Rick Perry to Newsmax: I Regret ‘Heartless’ Comment on Immigration
www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/RickPerry...heartless.../id/412594
Sep 28, 2011 – Presidential candidate Rick Perry on Wednesday apologized for ... Rick Perry to Newsmax: I Regret ‘Heartless’ Comment on Immigration ...
The Hill: Rick Perry apologizes for ‘heartless’ comment on ...
democratsforsale.blogspot.com/.../hill-rick-perry-apologizes-for.html
Sep 28, 2011 – Rick Perry apologizes for ‘heartless’ comment on immigration question. By Justin Sink - 09/28/11 03:21 PM ET. Rick Perry said Wednesday that ...
Too late! Rick Perry half assed apology for ‘heartless’ comment on ...
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Sep 28, 2011 – Rick Perry half assed apology for ‘heartless’ comment on Texas Dream Act. rick-perry-dumb Sorry Rick Perry, you’re too late on your “apology. ...
Rick Perry Apologizes For Using “Heartless” During Debate ...
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Sep 28, 2011 – Rick Perry says his use of the word ‘heartless’ was inappropriate to describe individuals who refused to provide discounted college tuition to ...

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128 posted on 10/30/2011 6:18:05 PM PDT by TexMom7
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To: usconservative

Perry did apologize just a few days after...He said he used the wrong word and was sorry.

BTW he never used the word ‘heartless’....he said ‘have a heart’


129 posted on 10/30/2011 6:46:42 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (*OMG ........means Obama Must Go in 2012!)
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To: usconservative

He never used the word “heartless”. Look it up.

What is it with some of you folks wanting Gov. Perry to “apologize” to you?!? Are you so used to Obama apologizing for the whole country and the media demanding apologies from the entire Republican party that now you all think you should get apologies too? Grow up.


130 posted on 10/30/2011 8:55:34 PM PDT by CatDancer (I'll Hope for Perry or Change for Newt, or take them both in either order. Period.)
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To: shield

I had hoped that the little cadre of Perry haters might have given up their attacks in the week ... the blessed week... I took away from them.

And yet, here they still are.

In their mindless hate for Perry, they don’t stop to realize that if Cain falters— and it is oh, so, possible, they are leaving the field wide open for Romney.

Their posts are simplistic, repetitive, contain no new information ... just childish insults.

I hope their children never have to see what some of them have posted here.

I never go on Cain threads and attack him ... just today I took up for him on the ‘woman’ smear.

I may post some doubts but I never lie in wait for a Cain thread so that I can post negatives about the man.

I gotta say, you people need therapy.


131 posted on 10/30/2011 9:18:23 PM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: usconservative

wuz it’s tiny feelins hurt? Well, he’s already said he is sorry he put it that way.


132 posted on 10/30/2011 9:20:46 PM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: altura

They are little zombies given marching orders daily...stop Rick Perry...


133 posted on 10/30/2011 9:40:04 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
"The correct answer is "You grow revenues by growing the economy, not by raising taxes."

So easy a child could do it. Maybe one day Perry can do it too."

He did. He made the point about dynamic scoring, which means he completely gets it.

134 posted on 10/30/2011 9:56:08 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: McGavin999

Not for Mexicans who have broken US law, you do know that, don’t you?


135 posted on 10/31/2011 12:34:05 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: newzjunkey

Ok, I’m going to dare ask this question: what makes you, or anyone, believe Cain can debate Obama?


Well, that one is easy. Perry absolutely can’t debate obama, and Obama is not that good. And Cain can think quickly on his feet. He’s smart and fast. Sure, he might make some kind of mistake that any of us might make; he isn’t slick or packaged. But he isn’t tongue tied (and that is really euphemistic) like perry. He’s a quick thinker and funny.

He is not perfect but he’s better than perry at explaining and convincing. And he’s very real about it.


136 posted on 10/31/2011 2:09:35 AM PDT by Yaelle (Raise Cain this weekend! Send him $9.99!)
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To: TomGuy

Yes, I was pleased at how Perry had prepared to get back at Romney on Immigration. He was waiting for his chance and he did a good job. Can he do such a thing off the cuff? Not sure.

I think mitt’s weakness was that he didn’t think anyone would “dare” hit him on something so personal. He was flustered and ticked! It was very funny to see.


137 posted on 10/31/2011 2:13:28 AM PDT by Yaelle (Raise Cain this weekend! Send him $9.99!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

And hand our roads over to Europe’s rich to charge us big dollars.


138 posted on 10/31/2011 2:21:31 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Obama is a Communist, a Muslim, and an illegal alien)
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To: Vasilli22

6 posts for the a-hole brigade to check in.


139 posted on 10/31/2011 8:54:35 AM PDT by pgkdan (("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: Gaffer

Well at least nobody has been paying off Perry’s sexual harassment victims. Cain is toast.


140 posted on 10/31/2011 8:58:01 AM PDT by pgkdan (("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: Gaffer

Cain is the next to go. We’ve seen this sleazy story play out too many times. Clinton survived bimbo eruptions because he was a demodrat. We Republicans have higher standards,


141 posted on 10/31/2011 9:03:25 AM PDT by pgkdan (("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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