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The Ugliness Started With Bork
New York Times ^ | October 21, 2011 | Joe Nocera

Posted on 10/30/2011 4:35:50 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

It is, to be sure, completely understandable that the Democrats wanted to keep Bork off the court. Lewis Powell, the great moderate, was stepping down, which would be leaving the court evenly divided between conservatives and liberals. There was tremendous fear that if Bork were confirmed, he would swing the court to the conservatives and important liberal victories would be overturned — starting with Roe v. Wade.

But liberals couldn’t just come out and say that. “If this were carried out as an internal Senate debate,” Ann Lewis, the Democratic activist, would later acknowledge, “we would have deep and thoughtful discussions about the Constitution, and then we would lose.” So, instead, the Democrats sought to portray Bork as “a right-wing loony,” to use a phrase in a memo written by the Advocacy Institute, a liberal lobby group.

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To: Clintonfatigued

Hey! The NY Times wins the stopped clock award today.


21 posted on 10/30/2011 5:12:33 PM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: y6162

Republicans don’t fight, they instead compromise quietly, while loudly proclaiming that the fight isn’t fair, and that they need bigger majorities. The Republican heart has stopped, in its place beats nothing but an artificial heart that always always always says compromise, and “can’t we do this without all the arguing”?


23 posted on 10/30/2011 5:15:41 PM PDT by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Yep, all that 'ugliness' decried by Obama and the MSM began with the attacks on Ronald Reagan, and continued with Teddy "The Swimmer" Kennedy, and his attacks on Robert Bork. They found their stride with the 'high tech lynching' of Clarence Thomas, and continue today, unabated.

It's interesting that, in every attack on conservative candidates by liberals, when you peel away all the superfluous arguments, it always comes down to abortion.

24 posted on 10/30/2011 5:20:14 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Clintonfatigued
the start of the 2nd civil war will be traced to this act. and now obama has citizens in the streets, with expressed thoughts of a separate citizen army while defunding the real one.

the next year will be a hot one

25 posted on 10/30/2011 5:34:53 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: buccaneer81

I always thought it interesting that the Democrats never attacked him for his vote against the Civil Rights Act. All they cared about was whether he had ever cheated on his wife.


26 posted on 10/30/2011 5:38:21 PM PDT by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Hoodat

His drinking was a fairly big issue as well. But you’re right on the Civil Rights Act vote.


27 posted on 10/30/2011 6:37:40 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Hoodat

The confirmation hearings for Bork had Chappaquidick Ted, Plagiarist Joe and graft & pork Howard all sitting in judgement.

That was the first time I realized that the struggle involved good versus evil rather than just a clash of opinions.

Bork clearly stood for integrity, reverence for the constitution and truth. Seeing those three slimes arrayed against such a man of obvious character using sophistry and trying to trap Bork showed me for the first time that the bad guys were for real.

Bork was a towering intellect compared to them, he was beyond qualified to represent the constitution. They had to lie to defeat him.


28 posted on 10/30/2011 6:45:12 PM PDT by UnChained (Cain/Bachmann 2012)
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To: Clintonfatigued

“Mostly, though, the point remains this: The next time a liberal asks why Republicans are so intransigent, you might suggest that the answer lies in the mirror.”

Great close.


29 posted on 10/30/2011 6:48:46 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: buccaneer81
The saddest part was that his rejection by the Senate eventually led to his untimely death.

John Tower died in a plane crash.

30 posted on 10/30/2011 7:05:41 PM PDT by FoxPro
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To: Clintonfatigued

To overthrow a lower court procedure, SCOTUS decisions should be unanimous.

While it might have some unpleasant side effecs, that would de-activate the activist court and de-politicize it.


31 posted on 10/30/2011 7:36:42 PM PDT by Westbrook
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To: buccaneer81

And of course, they ‘forgot’ that Bull Connor was a staunch Democret. My family knew him.


32 posted on 10/30/2011 8:19:48 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: chaosagent

Exactly.


33 posted on 10/30/2011 8:22:27 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: FoxPro
That's right. And had John Tower been Secretary of Defense on April 5, 1991 would he have been on ASA flight #2311? The answer is no. That is what results from a historical point of divergence which occurred on March 9, 1989.
34 posted on 10/30/2011 8:29:24 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

Glad we got Dick Cheney instead.


35 posted on 10/30/2011 8:33:52 PM PDT by des
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To: des
Glad we got Dick Cheney instead.

An excellent point.

Alternate history and its consequences is a hobby of mine.

36 posted on 10/30/2011 8:59:16 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: SuziQ
when you look back at Nixon, when you realize that he was accused of altering a few minutes of a tape that belonged in the White House, you realize that the evil that is the rat party showed its face then....

imagine...wasn't Nixon accused also of obtaining TWO FBI files?...I mean CLintoon had 700!!!!

and they looked high and low for those White Water files and no one could ever find them and then walaaa....they turn up on the White House dinner table and nobody knows how....

its breaktaking the hypocrisy...its obscene...

37 posted on 10/30/2011 10:24:51 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry
its breaktaking the hypocrisy...its obscene...

You must always remember, they are, above all, *true believers* in "The Gospel of Marx", that 'the end always justifies the means'. Once you have totally come to grips with that salient, and sobering fact, you will then know that absolutely *nothing* is 'beyond the pale' for such as they...

the infowarrior

38 posted on 10/31/2011 1:29:48 AM PDT by infowarrior
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