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Skip to comments.Exclusive: Two Women Accused Herman Cain of Inappropriate Behavior (Slander Alert)
Posted on 10/30/2011 8:09:16 PM PDT by parksstp
During Herman Cains tenure as the head of the National Restaurant Association in the 1990s, at least two female employees complained to colleagues and senior association officials about inappropriate behavior by Cain, ultimately leaving their jobs at the trade group, multiple sources confirm to POLITICO.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67194.html#ixzz1cKBke5vZ
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But taking votes on who was responsible for this: Joe the Plumber, Mark Furman, and Juan Williams all believe that Romney or Perry is behind this story. It wouldn't make sense to be coming out from the Obama folks...yet, since they are prepping for Romney, and they wouldn't want to give a story like this away in the primaries.
They're trying to take Cain down and how he responds will be very important.
I have it on good authority that these two women eat kittens. Prove it isn’t true.
If this is true, Cain is toast.
And I’ve been a supporter since April.
Even if the allegations are false, if the coverup is true, Cain is still toast.
With all my heart, I do not believe there is any other Republican candidate that can dump the Kenyan imposter.
We will be stuck with that communist for four more years.
Victoria, please check this story out.
this stuff would have worked 20 years ago
Hmmmm. The Clarence Thomas/Anita Hill gambit, doubled down.
Surely, you knew this was coming, didn’t you?
If he gets the nomination, it will make the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings look like a tea party. A real tea party.
I hope he does. I want names though of the Board Executives that were supposedly involved. It’s possible they’re just trying to extort money from him at an inconvienent time, but I suspect there is some link to another GOP campaign or the GOP establishment. This is a story the Dems/Libs would sit on and refrain from using until after Cain got the nomination.
JD Gordon did no favors calling into Geraldo. He wouldn’t answer if a settlement had been paid or not. I don’t think people would care that much because, unfortunately, it’s a lot easier and less expensive to settle out of court than to take it to court, clear your name, but get saddled with even larger legal fees than a settlement amount.
This story pi$$ed me off. I hope Cain survives it.
Geraldo tried to pigeon hole Gordon, Cains campaign manager, by trying to get him to categorically deny the story or that payments were made... this is what they do, lay out an impossible scenario so that whatever you say, you become entrapped. You cant categorically deny the story, because it has not been fully flushed out yet... and you cannot categorically deny that payments were made, cause they probably were, but if you confirm that payments were made, they have the noose around your neck regardless the explanation... may God grant Cain wings of eagles, that he may soar above the filthy antics of these media elites and leftists bastards... and I account Geraldo a bastard.
Exactly. If the libs have any real dirt on Cain, it won't come out now.
I’m sure these a story about Willie Mitty and some female in his past out there somewhere...
How would he like someone to make up something about him ???
Seems hes good at slurring others...
Palin now Cain...
Maybe its high time the tables were turned onto him...
Most of us who are older have a past. That’s all I’m going to say about that.
“wouldn’t care that much”
Wonder what took so long?
There are lying Anita Hills everywhere willing to participate in more high tech lynchings..
Did Cain not believe something like this would NOT come out during a campaign? Is he that politically naive?
Whoraldo has endorsed La Raza Rick Perry so I can understand why he would go after Herman Cain..
Yeah, including Mitt Romney. Too bad the media doens’t fully report on his real record of being politically expidient for personal gain, and sabotaging other candidates (Palin) with his minions.
I will wait for the facts.
I do know that a “settlement” and a “coverup” are two VERY different things. Someone can be innocent and agree to settle in court because it is expensive, time consuming, and creates negative publicity to fight it out in court.
A decision like this would not have been Cain’s to make, it would have been the board’s decision to make.
Did you read this article? These women (whoever they are, or even IF they are) didn’t even suggest it was sexual in nature.
I received a forwarded tweet tonight that a woman who worked with Cain while he was at the NRA does not believe these allegations at all.
Also, it may very well be the Obama campaign, for the very reason they want to run against a Romney... they know that the conservative base will be deflated and de-egenrized, just like they were with RINO McLaim when he got the nomination. The only way Obama can win is to knock the wind out of the sails of the conservative ship... to knock Cain out of the race is to ensure a RINO wins the nomination.
There is no sex anywhere close to this story. This story is old and boring!
You must be stupid to think Cain is “that naive”...
So? compare this to the dozens of Obama Scandals, Cain looks like a Saint. Im gonna watch a little of Matthews/Sargaent Schultz tonight to see if they bring it up,,,and/or how much time they spend on it,,,knowing chrissy,,he would devote the first half hour !!! but what about Eric Holder? I have never seen Chris bring up his scandal.
I think you might be giving the libs too much credit here. They really, really, believe that the Tea Party and Conservatives in general are racist, and that Cain v Obama would be as easy as Keyes v Obama was in the Senate Race.
He must be stupid if he didn’t think sexual harassment settlements wouldn’t come up in a campaign.
Gee, no one saw this coming?
See post #73.
You have to read pretty far down into the Politico story before you find that response from Herman Cain spokesman J.D. Gordon, and the article sticks all the exculpatory material at the end:
Ron Magruder, Denise Marie Fugo and Joseph Fassler, the chair, vice chair and immediate past chairman of the National Restaurant Association board of directors at the time of Cains departure, said they hadnt heard about any complaints regarding Cain making unwanted advances.
I have never heard that. It would be news to me, said Fugo, who runs a Cleveland, Ohio, catering company, adding such behavior would be totally out of character for the Cain she knew. Hes very gracious.
Fassler, who helped bring Cain on board as CEO of the restaurant association, said that any inappropriate behavior was not brought to his attention and that he would be upset to learn it had gone on and he was not made aware of it.
Thats a shock to me, Fassler said. As an officer during all of Hermans years there as a paid executive none of that stuff ever surfaced to me. Nobody ever called me, complained about this, nor did I ever hear that from Peter Kilgore, nor did I ever hear that from Herman Cain.
Fassler who ran a Phoenix food-service company and finished his term as chairman the month before Cains June 1999 departure but remained on the boards executive committee described Cain as treating men and women identically and asserted it was not within his character to make unwanted advances. Its not what I know of him, Fassler said.
Much like Fassler, almost all board members remember Cain fondly and say he left on good terms.
Cain was extremely professional and fair to female staffers at the restaurant association, recalled Lee Ellen Hayes, who said she worked fairly closely with Cain in the late 1990s, when she was an executive at the National Restaurant Association Education Fund, a Chicago-based offshoot of the group.
Cains treatment of women was the same as his treatment of men. Herman treated everyone great, said Mary Ann Cricchio, who was elected to the board of the restaurant group in 1998. She said Cain left such a good impression on the organization that when he spoke at a group event in January of this year, as he was considering a presidential bid, he had unanimous support in the room.
We know nothing about the accusers and the specifics of the accusations from a dozen years ago are reported rather vaguely by Politico: episodes that left the women upset and offended and physical gestures that were not overtly sexual but that made women who experienced or witnessed them uncomfortable and that they regarded as improper in a professional relationship.
All in all, its a long run for a short slide. Unless and until we have some specifics including names, dates and places my instinct is to agree with Gordon that this is part of a smear campaign.
Why are Cains enemies firing the thermonuclear component of their oppo-research arsenal so early? Generally speaking in such matters, you save your big stuff for later in the campaign.
We have all these cowardly GOP’ers in congress. Will they get outraged about this latest attack on one of their own? No? They have access to media. They have power. So then it’s time for a 3rd party. I’m fuc**ng tired of this. We’re losing the war folks.
I’ve learned not to expect much from Perry supporters.
where is the cover up?
Keyes was a different time, was local, and wasn’t quite as congenial... I have no apprehensions on this...
Not so sure it wasn't the Obama folks. If nothing else, the Cain story will divert attention from the bad news about Social Security officially going red. They have a knack for stepping on bad news.
What coverup? the payments? That is standard procedure in sexual harassment cases. Heck, it is standard in phony "personal injury" lawsuits as well. A woman sued my father for a non-existent injury from an accident which never happened, for which she had no witnesses except her boyfriend. She had NO case, yet Liberty Mutual handed her $35,000 to go away. I have seen this done at 3 companies I have worked with. They all said it was B.S. And they all paid to make it go away.
This story can only help Cain.
Bill Clinton had dozens.
And one of them was Hillary!
Corporations with deep pocket pay settlements regardless of authenticity of charges because it is much cheaper than litigating in court. It does not prove anything, especially if the settlement is in low 5 figures.
I can’t wait until Tort Reform passes when the plaintiff has to pay the defendant’s legal expenses in cases when he/she loses the case.
This is what Politico says:
The sources which include the recollections of close associates and other documentation describe episodes that left the women upset and offended. These incidents include conversations allegedly filled with innuendo or personal questions of a sexually suggestive nature, taking place at hotels during conferences, at other officially sanctioned restaurant association events and at the associations offices. There were also descriptions of physical gestures that were not overtly sexual but that made women who experienced or witnessed them uncomfortable and that they regarded as improper in a professional relationship.
Really? How the hell do you defend yourself against stuff like that. Theyre basically saying oh we cant show or prove anything but it was harassment