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Poll Says Cain, Romney Tied In Florida
My Fox Orlando ^ | 11/1/11 | staff

Posted on 11/01/2011 4:01:11 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009

Herman Cain is statistically tied for first place with former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney among registered Republicans in the key early voting state of Florida, according to a new Suffolk University/WSVN-TV poll.

Phone calls for the survey were wrapping up as news broke that Cain faced allegations of sexual harassment while head of the National Restaurant Association -- allegations that could affect his candidacy. The poll shows that the former Godfather's Pizza CEO remains a favorite in Florida just over a month after he won the state's straw poll -- the event that marked the beginning of the "Cain surge" and Texas Gov. Rick Perry's fall.

Cain took second place with 24 percent support, behind Romney who took 25 percent. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich came in third with 11 percent and Perry placed fourth with nine percent. Some 20 percent of Sunshine State Republicans said they were still undecided.

Read more: http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpps/news/poll-says-cain-romney-tied-in-florida-dpgonc-km-20111101_15751544#ixzz1cUt2DDjD

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: cain; florida; poll; romney
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To: goseminoles

Uncomfortable? Or just angry about this naked attempt to lynch him—ala Justice Thomas?

That’s what I saw. Your faint praise attempt is transparent. In that spirit I invite you to take a long walk off a short pier. You will not be allowed off the hook, my friend. You drop a dime I’ll drop a dime. Seems fair to me.


21 posted on 11/01/2011 5:32:16 PM PDT by dools0007world
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To: MestaMachine

Great, now someone’s going to post that caveman pic.


22 posted on 11/01/2011 5:33:55 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

The ONLY reason they are tied is because of the stinkin’ snowbirds on the SE coast, the Broward,Palm Beach, Boca area. Wasserman territory.


23 posted on 11/01/2011 5:35:56 PM PDT by mojitojoe (WH says potus didn’t feel the earthquake. No worries. Another is scheduled for November 2012)
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To: BenKenobi

The political elites and their coterie of advisors are frenzedly flipping their play book pages. Cain refuses to paly their game. What to do—oh what to do?

I pledge to send Mr. Cain $100 tomorrow.


24 posted on 11/01/2011 5:38:16 PM PDT by dools0007world
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To: BenKenobi

Thanks Ben.

If this Gator has anything to say about it, Cain WILL win Florida! There’s alot of positive buzz about him around here!


25 posted on 11/01/2011 5:43:49 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: MestaMachine

This is what he needs to do to get over the “clumsy/uneducated” attacks from his critics, so that’s good to see.

Practice makes perfect.


26 posted on 11/01/2011 5:50:56 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: GatorGirl

Mittens needs FL. He cannot afford to lose there and still hope to win the nomination.

Cain is very close already to 200 EVs, with lots of room to grow.

Cain if he can get VA + FL and win in SC, should be able to capture the nomination if he can stay there, but he’s still got a ways to go to catch up to Romney in the polls.

FL + SC + VA + TN + IN would put him first in states and EC votes, and Romney for the first time wouldn’t be leading in EC votes.


27 posted on 11/01/2011 6:01:28 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: BenKenobi
Cain is very close already to 200 EVs, with lots of room to grow.

You are assuming that the primary states are all winner-take-all.

In 2008, most of them were -- and that's how McCain locked up the nomination without ever winning a majority in any state.

In 2012, however, many states have switched over to a proportional voting scheme -- e.g., win 25% of the vote, you get 25% of the delegates.

Under these circumstances it will be very difficult for anybody in this crowd to win a majority of the delegates before the convention.

28 posted on 11/01/2011 6:12:35 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
HC Pinganator!

Cain is Still Going Strong - See post #25 - Cain up +4

C-SPAN delivers: Announces full live coverage of Saturday's Herman Cain-Newt Gingrich debate

Poll Says Cain, Romney Tied In Florida

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Cain Sings Away Troubles With Gospel Tune at National Press Club

Herman Cain Heckled by Ron Paul Supporters During Campaign Speech

Who Is Herman Cain's Wife?

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Cain Has His Biggest Fundraising Day

VIDEO: DC Exclusive interview with Mark Block


News related to the supposed "scandal"

Not posted on FR yet:

The Cain Mutiny: ‪Allegations Against Herman Cain Come As He Gains‬

Northern Virginia Lawyer: Former President of National Restaurant Association has Ties to the Mitt R

Why this guy’s no sexual harasser (former campaign staffer speaks out)

Already posted on FR

Is Herman Cain taking scandal from bad to worse?

Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

Return of the Whipsaw (Herman Cain)

NYTimes Editor 'Alarmed' at 'Right Wing' Pushback on Cain Story

Am I alone? (vanity) Rand Paul Blasts Politico Story: ‘I Don’t Think You Should Print Stuff Like That’

Another 'Borking?'

Coulter: Politico would not have published Cain story if he were white [VIDEO]

Some Perspective On Herman Cain's Sexual Harassment Problem

Lawyer: Cain May Have Violated Confidentiality of Harassment Settlement

Putting Herman Cain's Sexual Harassment Accusations In Context

Herman Cain Iowa chairman: 'Distraction' will help here

Why did Establishment media go after Cain, yet leave it to The Enquirer to go after John Edwards?

Iowans oddly unmoved by vague, 12-year-old allegations about Cain (unimpressed with Politico)

Mrs. Cain to the rescue? (Plus, Cain responds to questions about inconsistencies)

Lefty media pounce on vague allegations

Herman Cain has largest online fundraising day - after Big Media hit piece comes out

Our prize is finding America’s soul again

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The Curious Timing of the Herman Cain Accusation (Could a GOP campaign be the source)

Mark Steyn: Unsettling (Herman Cain's woes say more about us than him)

Cain's Troubles Help Perry, Romney (Anti-Cain whispering campaign started weeks ago)

Unable To Produce More Cain Evidence, Politico's Allen Brags Of Big Number of 'Twitter Mentions'

VIDEO: Herman Cain Just Broke Into Song At The National Press Club ["He Looked Beyond my Fault"]

Limbaugh: Cain controversy ‘about blacks and Hispanics getting too uppity’ [VIDEO OF SHOW]

Mark Levin: Politico Is A "Phony Website ... Not News, It's Leftism"

Mark Levin Breaks Down the Herman Cain Smear by Politico (Video)

Cain Details Gesture That Led To Sex Accusation

Cain: In my opinion, I did nothing inappropriate

Hermanator — at the eye of the storm

Cain campaign manager: “Hard to believe” a GOP rival would plant the sexual harassment story

Revealed: Cain describes hand gesture that led to harassment claim; Update: Small settlement

29 posted on 11/01/2011 6:26:20 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: okie01

True, I’m assuming that it’s winner take all, and not looking at the margins. However:

1, Cain is up in the national polls. Presumably that means that he would gain proportionally more delegates than Romney.

2, Cain is second everywhere that he is not first. Romney is third right now in NC and TX. TX, especially is a problem for Romney, because if it’s proportionally awarded, than he’s going to lose considerable ground to Cain.

Cain does worse under winner take all, so that’s the measure that I am using, because I figure that if it’s the trailing rather than the leading indicator, it’s a good sign that he has truly overtaken Romney.


30 posted on 11/01/2011 6:26:20 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: K-oneTexas; Tucker822; Kartographer; freekitty; carmody; Dead Corpse; MsLady; Publius772000; ...

Oops - sorry - ping to the reallllly long post above.


31 posted on 11/01/2011 6:38:02 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: BenKenobi
True, I’m assuming that it’s winner take all, and not looking at the margins.

Fair enough. So long as you're aware that it's directional, not definitive.

32 posted on 11/01/2011 6:38:18 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: okie01

Still very fluid at this point in time, but it won’t be long before the field starts to shake out.


33 posted on 11/01/2011 6:52:49 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: MestaMachine

Can’t quite bring myself to watching BOR but thanks for the 1st person account. :-)


34 posted on 11/01/2011 6:55:20 PM PDT by South40 (Heartless since 1957)
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To: BenKenobi
Still very fluid at this point in time, but it won’t be long before the field starts to shake out.

Odds are, though, you'll never get it below a four-man race.

Romney's got his 25% -- no more, probably no less.

Cain looks like he can go to 30% -- maybe 35% -- before he tops out.

Paul's 10% ain't goin' anywhere. Not up, not down.

Gingrich will likely creep up to 15%-or-so.

That leaves 20% for the don't know/don't care/somebody else crowd -- including Bachman, Santorum, Huntsman, Johnson, etc.

And nobody's even close to a majority -- unless Cain can somehow grab all of that latter group. Which isn't likely.

Nobody ever talks about it, but methinks we may go to convention without a candidate. And that presents a very interesting state of affairs. Imagine the establishment controlling the stage...but the Tea Party controlling the floor.

35 posted on 11/01/2011 7:05:41 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: MestaMachine

I will have to post it when I get a link.

Another great day for Cain, he is on pace to beat his fundraising record again! (yesterday he raised $250,000, today, approaching $300,000)

His Facebook picked up nearly 8000 new supporters today as well.


36 posted on 11/01/2011 7:07:57 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: patriotspride

Krautie is a former speech writer for Mundale...that says all you need to know about his true colors. He’s NOT a conservative, he just tries to play one on TV.


37 posted on 11/01/2011 7:11:54 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: okie01
True, I’m assuming that it’s winner take all, and not looking at the margins.

There are a lot of Cain supporters... more than the pollsters realize.

38 posted on 11/01/2011 7:12:06 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever ( Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: okie01

Cain is polling higher than that, or the opposition wouldn’t have sic’d Politico on him like they did.


39 posted on 11/01/2011 7:14:01 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: okie01

Depends on where Cain’s cap is. He’s giving up about 10 percent name recognition to Romney, and is still outpolling him by 5 or so.

If it comes out 35 - 25 - 15 - 10 - 5 - 5 - 5, Cain just needs to nab 15 percent.

Cain at 35 + Gingrich at 15 would be 50 for a Cain/Gingrich ticket, and that’s probably enough.

Cain and Gingrich are also riding high in the second place showings, so it’s very likely that the other candidates will pitch to them.

Cain has to stay ahead of everyone on the conservative side, and get up to around 35 percent. Lots of work still for him to do, but he’s much closer now than a month an a half when he was at 4 percent.


40 posted on 11/01/2011 7:18:04 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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