Skip to comments.Poll Says Cain, Romney Tied In Florida
Posted on 11/01/2011 4:01:11 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
Herman Cain is statistically tied for first place with former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney among registered Republicans in the key early voting state of Florida, according to a new Suffolk University/WSVN-TV poll.
Phone calls for the survey were wrapping up as news broke that Cain faced allegations of sexual harassment while head of the National Restaurant Association -- allegations that could affect his candidacy. The poll shows that the former Godfather's Pizza CEO remains a favorite in Florida just over a month after he won the state's straw poll -- the event that marked the beginning of the "Cain surge" and Texas Gov. Rick Perry's fall.
Cain took second place with 24 percent support, behind Romney who took 25 percent. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich came in third with 11 percent and Perry placed fourth with nine percent. Some 20 percent of Sunshine State Republicans said they were still undecided.
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Uncomfortable? Or just angry about this naked attempt to lynch him—ala Justice Thomas?
That’s what I saw. Your faint praise attempt is transparent. In that spirit I invite you to take a long walk off a short pier. You will not be allowed off the hook, my friend. You drop a dime I’ll drop a dime. Seems fair to me.
Great, now someone’s going to post that caveman pic.
The ONLY reason they are tied is because of the stinkin’ snowbirds on the SE coast, the Broward,Palm Beach, Boca area. Wasserman territory.
The political elites and their coterie of advisors are frenzedly flipping their play book pages. Cain refuses to paly their game. What to do—oh what to do?
I pledge to send Mr. Cain $100 tomorrow.
If this Gator has anything to say about it, Cain WILL win Florida! There’s alot of positive buzz about him around here!
This is what he needs to do to get over the “clumsy/uneducated” attacks from his critics, so that’s good to see.
Practice makes perfect.
Mittens needs FL. He cannot afford to lose there and still hope to win the nomination.
Cain is very close already to 200 EVs, with lots of room to grow.
Cain if he can get VA + FL and win in SC, should be able to capture the nomination if he can stay there, but he’s still got a ways to go to catch up to Romney in the polls.
FL + SC + VA + TN + IN would put him first in states and EC votes, and Romney for the first time wouldn’t be leading in EC votes.
You are assuming that the primary states are all winner-take-all.
In 2008, most of them were -- and that's how McCain locked up the nomination without ever winning a majority in any state.
In 2012, however, many states have switched over to a proportional voting scheme -- e.g., win 25% of the vote, you get 25% of the delegates.
Under these circumstances it will be very difficult for anybody in this crowd to win a majority of the delegates before the convention.
Cain is Still Going Strong - See post #25 - Cain up +4
Herman Cain Knows His Place: It's in the Oval Office (Alfonzo Rachel nails it again)
Not posted on FR yet:
Why this guys no sexual harasser (former campaign staffer speaks out)
Already posted on FR
True, I’m assuming that it’s winner take all, and not looking at the margins. However:
1, Cain is up in the national polls. Presumably that means that he would gain proportionally more delegates than Romney.
2, Cain is second everywhere that he is not first. Romney is third right now in NC and TX. TX, especially is a problem for Romney, because if it’s proportionally awarded, than he’s going to lose considerable ground to Cain.
Cain does worse under winner take all, so that’s the measure that I am using, because I figure that if it’s the trailing rather than the leading indicator, it’s a good sign that he has truly overtaken Romney.
Oops - sorry - ping to the reallllly long post above.
Fair enough. So long as you're aware that it's directional, not definitive.
Still very fluid at this point in time, but it won’t be long before the field starts to shake out.
Can’t quite bring myself to watching BOR but thanks for the 1st person account. :-)
Odds are, though, you'll never get it below a four-man race.
Romney's got his 25% -- no more, probably no less.
Cain looks like he can go to 30% -- maybe 35% -- before he tops out.
Paul's 10% ain't goin' anywhere. Not up, not down.
Gingrich will likely creep up to 15%-or-so.
That leaves 20% for the don't know/don't care/somebody else crowd -- including Bachman, Santorum, Huntsman, Johnson, etc.
And nobody's even close to a majority -- unless Cain can somehow grab all of that latter group. Which isn't likely.
Nobody ever talks about it, but methinks we may go to convention without a candidate. And that presents a very interesting state of affairs. Imagine the establishment controlling the stage...but the Tea Party controlling the floor.
I will have to post it when I get a link.
Another great day for Cain, he is on pace to beat his fundraising record again! (yesterday he raised $250,000, today, approaching $300,000)
His Facebook picked up nearly 8000 new supporters today as well.
Krautie is a former speech writer for Mundale...that says all you need to know about his true colors. He’s NOT a conservative, he just tries to play one on TV.
There are a lot of Cain supporters... more than the pollsters realize.
Cain is polling higher than that, or the opposition wouldn’t have sic’d Politico on him like they did.
Depends on where Cain’s cap is. He’s giving up about 10 percent name recognition to Romney, and is still outpolling him by 5 or so.
If it comes out 35 - 25 - 15 - 10 - 5 - 5 - 5, Cain just needs to nab 15 percent.
Cain at 35 + Gingrich at 15 would be 50 for a Cain/Gingrich ticket, and that’s probably enough.
Cain and Gingrich are also riding high in the second place showings, so it’s very likely that the other candidates will pitch to them.
Cain has to stay ahead of everyone on the conservative side, and get up to around 35 percent. Lots of work still for him to do, but he’s much closer now than a month an a half when he was at 4 percent.
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