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Man arrested for child sex assault at Occupy Dallas camp
wfaa.com ^ | Posted on November 1, 2011 at 5:13 PM Updated yesterday at 8:22 PM | STEVE STOLER

Posted on 11/02/2011 7:01:11 AM PDT by massmike

Dallas police have arrested a man who allegedly sexually assaulted a minor at the Occupy Dallas campsite downtown. Richard Armstrong, 24, was charged with sexual assault of child and failure to register as a sex offender.

Armstrong was identified as the man who police said had sex with a runaway from Garland. The alleged incident happened in a tent at one of the encampments on or before Oct. 23.

Police received information that a 14-year-old runaway from Garland was at the camp. Police checked the area and found the girl. During an interview, she revealed that she had had sex with a man in a tent. Armstrong was identified as that man and arrested.

The girl also told dectectives she had told Armstrong she was 19 years old.

He was previously convicted of sexual assault in 2009 and was ordered to register. Court papers indicate he had sex with a 14-year-old girl at a party in Coppell.

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1 posted on 11/02/2011 7:01:12 AM PDT by massmike
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To: massmike
During an interview, she revealed that she had had sex with a man in a tent.

I was wondering why they needed all those tents at those Obamavilles.

2 posted on 11/02/2011 7:04:29 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Stop Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: massmike

Imagine if anything remotely as bad happened at a Tea Party rally.

The news would be all over it 24/7


3 posted on 11/02/2011 7:05:08 AM PDT by Westbrook
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To: massmike

I’ll take Tea Party Terrorists over Occupy Pedophiles any day...


4 posted on 11/02/2011 7:06:09 AM PDT by TSgt (Legal Disclaimer: View my profile at your own risk)
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To: massmike
This is an isolated incident, and like the other 1,863 isolated
incidents is not indicative of the movement as a whole.
5 posted on 11/02/2011 7:10:22 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: massmike

“The girl also told dectectives she had told Armstrong she was 19 years old.”

Isn’t that an iron clad alibi?


6 posted on 11/02/2011 7:14:17 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: laotzu

That’s always infuriating about liberals -

you can point out example after example of the depravity of those who follow their ideology,
and you can point out example after example of socialists and marxists that follow their ideology,

and they’re always “isolated cases not indicative of the whole”.


7 posted on 11/02/2011 7:15:53 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: massmike
Police received information that a 14-year-old runaway from Garland was at the camp. Police checked the area and found the girl. During an interview, she revealed that she had had sex with a man in a tent. Armstrong was identified as that man and arrested. The girl also told dectectives she had told Armstrong she was 19 years old.

So, here's what I get from this. Police find a runaway, who admits that she lied to a man about her age. Then she says she had sex with that man, and he is arrested.

Who needs any charges of forced rape? Who needs evidence? Who needs to even bother to question the integrity of the 14 yr old. Why, let's arrest a man based solely upon the word of a 14 yr old girl. Maybe she will point you out in a crowd, and say that she also had sex with you too.

8 posted on 11/02/2011 7:25:33 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Hodar

Can they even continue to hold this guy after she said she lied about her age? If this is the way the law works then you need photo ID before you date any girl.


9 posted on 11/02/2011 7:42:56 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: wiggen

I don’t think he was “dating” the girl.


10 posted on 11/02/2011 7:48:22 AM PDT by GnL
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To: wiggen

She lied about her age - what else is she lying about?

A man is being charged, for a ‘crime’ that may or may not have happened. No need for evidence, no need for a witness, no need for any reports that a crime was taking place.

Why? Do we even need to have a trial, or shall we just lynch him because some child leveled an accusation? Do you realize how much power we are giving an accuser? This man must prove his innocense, or go to jail.

Is there no thought, reason or rational thought in the Police Department or Prosecutor’s office?


11 posted on 11/02/2011 7:54:55 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Hodar
He was previously convicted of sexual assault in 2009! Court papers indicate he had sex with a 14-year-old girl at a party in Coppell.

Yeah! He's a real angel! Just another innocent victim......

12 posted on 11/02/2011 7:56:10 AM PDT by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: Hodar
This man must prove his innocense, or go to jail.

No! The state must prove his guilt!

He gets his day in court like everyone else!

13 posted on 11/02/2011 7:58:05 AM PDT by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: massmike

I walked by Zucotti Park yesterday in Manhattan.

Looks like a Statin Island landfill.

Filthy tents piled on top of each other like big bags of garbage.

Can’t imagine what’s in side. If I had to choose, I’d rather visit the landfill.


14 posted on 11/02/2011 7:58:19 AM PDT by samtheman (Newt, can you refute... global warming? You really have to do that.)
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To: massmike
He gets his day in court like everyone else!

Hi, you are being arrested and will go going to jail for Statutory Rape. No, we don't have any evidence, and no, we don't have a reliable witness. Some girl we arrested as a runaway pointed you out of a crowd and said you had sex with her - and, well - since we really don't like this crowd much anyway - we've decided that your rights don't matter much at all.

So, you can tell your boss that you've been arrested for Rape (good luck on your career), and tell your family that you won't be coming home for awhile. In a month or so, we'll have a trial and you can spend your hard earned money hiring a lawyer to defend you on this trumped up charge.

Since we have no evidence - this will probably work out in your favor, but you will have the tanished reputation as a Rapist for the rest of your life. You will spend thousands of dollars defending yourself on this trumped up charge; with no legal recourse. Then, if the jury just doesn't like you anyway - there is a chance you'll go to jail anyway.

Sound fair and reasonable to you?

15 posted on 11/02/2011 8:06:55 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: massmike
Yeah! He's a real angel! Just another innocent victim......

Doesn't matter one iota. He is being charged with THIS crime. Past behavior has no bearing on this. What we have is a young girl who admitted telling the man that she was 19. She then is accusing him of Statuatory Rape. No evidence, no charges, no crime.

Just think - if you had been there, she could have pointed at you.

16 posted on 11/02/2011 8:09:45 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Hodar

See post # 8


17 posted on 11/02/2011 8:11:30 AM PDT by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: massmike
..make that # 12.

oops!

18 posted on 11/02/2011 8:12:29 AM PDT by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: Hodar
He made your hero list in three categories didn't he. 1. sSex offender. 2.Parasite and being anti-American. 3. When he committed statutory rape.

Che Guvera must also be on your list of heroes.

19 posted on 11/02/2011 8:17:27 AM PDT by sport
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To: Hodar
So what is your solution? That's the system we have! Innocent until proven guilty! Is it perfect? No! Is it 100% fool-proof? No!

...and if it turns out SHE'S lying,then SHE should do some time,too!

Other than that,what else can you do? Dazzle us with your new,improved system!

20 posted on 11/02/2011 8:18:16 AM PDT by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: massmike

Great. So anything you did in the past you’re automatically guilty of doing again for the rest of your life.


21 posted on 11/02/2011 8:19:13 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: GnL

Hey i don’t think she was dating him either.


22 posted on 11/02/2011 8:21:20 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: wiggen; sport

Lots of accused rapist defenders on here this morning.Is there something in THEIR past they’d like to share?


23 posted on 11/02/2011 8:21:28 AM PDT by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: wiggen
So anything you did in the past you’re automatically guilty of doing again for the rest of your life.

I guess he should have thought of that before he assaulted a 14 year old girl!

24 posted on 11/02/2011 8:22:40 AM PDT by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: samtheman
I walked by Zucotti Park yesterday in Manhattan.

Do you notice a suspicious lack of "on site" video coverage of these events, considering all the time the newsies have devoted to fawning over the protestors?

25 posted on 11/02/2011 8:24:39 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Hodar
Just think - if you had been there, she could have pointed at you.

Just think - She could have been YOUR daughter!

26 posted on 11/02/2011 8:26:09 AM PDT by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: tacticalogic

I only saw one camera that could be professional media and it wasn’t in use.

Of course they don’t want to publicize how this army of creeps, freeloaders, commies and garbage-pickers have removed a public space from public use in New York.

And of course the sheeple of New York aren’t going to complain.

As I was standing on a nearby corner waiting for a light to change so I could walk back to the E Train, a guy in a suit said to me, “exciting, isn’t it?”

I said: “In what way?”

I wanted to say more, and was working out how to get the landfill metaphor into a sentence when the light turned green and he said “well, I’m not from here” and walked briskly away.


27 posted on 11/02/2011 8:35:59 AM PDT by samtheman (Newt, can you refute... global warming? You really have to do that.)
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To: massmike

You seem to be vociferously attacking alleged statutory rapists. History has shown that the loudest voices in opposition are hiding their own sins, so...

Any confessions?

I do have one serious question for you: Do you believe in the rule of law, or do you believe that accusation=conviction? So far, the evidence supports your believing the latter.

How liberal.


28 posted on 11/02/2011 8:44:40 AM PDT by MortMan (Americans are a people increasignly separated by our connectivity.)
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To: massmike

My daughter, my wife, my grandkids - doesn’t matter.

NO ONE should be able to imprision anyone else without evidence. If my daughter, wife or grandchild decided to engage in sex with someone else; they made their decision and get to live with the consequences.

But, to come forward at some later point and imprison another man, is just evil. Just think, it could have been you or I. Just a person pointing a finger - and the accused is imprisoned.

Not that long ago, we had adults sentenced to decades in Federal prision, based upon the testamony of children. A whole Daycare was destroyed, families who did NOTHING wrong were destroyed by self-righteous people just like you. All it took was a child to point a finger, and a public willing to believe the word of a child over overwhelming evidence that the child was ‘coached’ and ‘threatened’.

I prefer the Constitution.


29 posted on 11/02/2011 8:47:28 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Hodar
NO ONE should be able to imprision anyone else without evidence.

...and if there's no evidence,he'll be released! AND the girl should be penalized if she's lying!

If my daughter, wife or grandchild decided to engage in sex with someone else; they made their decision and get to live with the consequences.

So you're good with it if your 14 year old daughter sleeps with a grown man! Great parenting!

it could have been you or I

And that matters more to you than if your daughter is taken advantage of by a grown man?I feel sorry for her!

We had adults sentenced to decades in Federal prision, based upon the testamony of children.

...Which was a miscarriage of justice! But to use your earlier argument,what does that case have to do with this one?

I prefer the Constitution.

Me,too! Isn't that the document that guarantees us a fair,speedy trial?

BTW...we're still waiting for your new,improved system....

30 posted on 11/02/2011 9:05:52 AM PDT by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: massmike

But the lie-o-crats back these people so they must back ALL their actions.


31 posted on 11/02/2011 9:06:48 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: MortMan
You seem to be vociferously DEFENDING alleged statutory rapists.

By the way,the law says "innocent until proven guilty".Got a better system?

I do have one serious question for you,too:

The girls says he did it;he says he didn't. How do you propose we get to the truth?

Take your time!

32 posted on 11/02/2011 9:09:39 AM PDT by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: chiefqc
But the lie-o-crats back these people

So do a few freepers,it does appear......

33 posted on 11/02/2011 9:11:38 AM PDT by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: Hodar

He was also arrested for failing to register as a sex offender per his previous sentencing two years ago.


34 posted on 11/02/2011 9:15:25 AM PDT by NewinTexsas
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To: massmike

Simple - no evidence, no crime.

If sex took place, there is evidence; pretty simple, huh?

If the girl gets up, cleans up and then goes back to bed; it would certainly appear it was consentual, wouldn’t it? As is; you are more worried about your precious child, that you would freely imprison anyone whom she would accuse.

What happens when your daugher realizes that she can get revenge for you grounding her, simply by saying “Daddy touched me”? She can now freely extort anything her little 8-18 yr old heart desires, simply by threatening to make the statement. Whether it’s true or not, is really inconsequential, isn’t it? You will get you day in court, just like him. It may mean you don’t have a job anymore, and will lose your house and marriage - but that is the amount of power you have willingly and aggressively ceded to your child. Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, doesn’t it?

Or, do different rules apply when you are involved?


35 posted on 11/02/2011 9:20:54 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: NewinTexsas
He was also arrested for failing to register as a sex offender per his previous sentencing two years ago.

Fine, book him and charge him with THAT crime. That is a crime that you can easily prove that he committed. It's easy to verify and bring forth evidence.

36 posted on 11/02/2011 9:22:42 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Hodar

Book him on stupidity, too. Or possibly uncontrollable sex drive. Unregistered sex offenders should not have young girls in their tents.


37 posted on 11/02/2011 9:25:10 AM PDT by NewinTexsas
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To: massmike
The girls says he did it;he says he didn't. How do you propose we get to the truth?

That's easy, we arrest him, publically humiliate him, threaten him and have a witch-hunt. Never ever consider the validity of the sole witness. It's ever so much fun. Oh, wait; that's what you want to do.

How about we establish whether there is any evidence that a crime was actually committed? The charge is "Statuatory Rape". Then, let's see if he knew the 'victim's age; oh wait, she admitted that she told him that she was 19. So, what do you have left? Oh, yeah; her word against his as to whether anyting sexual really took place; and no evidence to show either way.

How does "He said, She said" work in every other case in court, in the US? If you don't have evidence, you don't have a crime.

38 posted on 11/02/2011 9:27:53 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Hodar

“That’s easy, we arrest him, publically humiliate him, threaten him and have a witch-hunt. Never ever consider the validity of the sole witness. It’s ever so much fun. Oh, wait; that’s what you want to do.”

Doesn’t seem like anything will stop this guy!


He would eventually plead guilty to the charge in May 2009 and received 10 years’ probation for the assault, and was fined $2,500. But court records show he violated terms of the agreement that September. Court records show he came in contact with a child under 17, failed a polygraph test, attempted to move out of the county and was “unsuccessfully discharged from sex offender treatment.” Matter of fact, Armstrong’s been in and out of Dallas County courts since early October, when, on October 10, a judge denied his attempts to revoke community supervision.

http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2011/11/23-year-old_man_arrested_charg.php


39 posted on 11/02/2011 9:29:52 AM PDT by NewinTexsas
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To: massmike

Not much time needed. I propose a vigorous, thorough investigation, a trial, and a sentence if convicted.

I am not defending this individual. I am defending the best juris prudence system yet devised. We agree that innocence until guilt is proven is the law - I say we should approach this case following the law.

Finally, there is one aspect I do find troubling about all of this. If the girl misrepresented her age (assuming she appears as though she could have been legal) and they engaged in consensual sex, then I am troubled that he could be convicted of statutory based on her lie (about being 19). That, however, is an issue with the law, not with the facts in this case.

It would trouble me much more if they had met in a bar - which is a (presumably) age restrictive environment.

If the only evidence is her testimony, I do not know if the truth can be found, given that she has already admitted to having lied about her age.

In the end, I sincerely hope the truth will win out, with a hearty serving of true justice for all involved.


40 posted on 11/02/2011 9:31:01 AM PDT by MortMan (Americans are a people increasingly separated by our connectivity.)
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To: NewinTexsas
Unregistered sex offenders should not have young girls in their tents.

Really, so if you are a sex offender; it's now illegal to have a young female in your tent? What statute is that, exactly?

41 posted on 11/02/2011 9:31:10 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Hodar
If sex took place, there is evidence; pretty simple, huh?

And if it's between a grown man and a 14 year old,THAT'S statutory rape....consensual or not!

Or can't you process that?

What happens when your daugher realizes that she can get revenge for you grounding her, simply by saying “Daddy touched me”?

Just because someone else may have failed as a father and now has an uncontrollable animal in their home doesn't mean we ALL raised our daughters to be little pysco-sl*ts.

42 posted on 11/02/2011 9:32:04 AM PDT by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: massmike

Well I guess idiots are not limited to just the lie-o-crats.


43 posted on 11/02/2011 9:38:24 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: NewinTexsas

That is what he did in 2009. He was tried and convicted - right? That was justice served; and if convicted a second time the judge would be right in using past behavior in his next sentence.

However, you seem intent on bypassing the current (2011) event.

Mortman has an excellent post on this. I want justice served. Based upon the fact presented we have the following.
* Girl told accused she was 19, a flat out lie
* Girl claims that sexual conduct occurred

So, assuming that sex did occur (no evidence that it did), the defendant was under the belief that it was both consentual and legal. Those are the facts.

So, what is a court supposed to do? There is NO EVIDENCE that a crime was committed, and if sex occured, it occured under the lie that the girl was of the age of legal consent, and was consentual.


44 posted on 11/02/2011 9:39:30 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Hodar

Again: She went to the cops and said she slept with the guy! She told the cops she was 14! If she did or didn’t tell the guy she was 19,(And if she lies THAT much,who knows?),the law says he’s guilty anyway! Hell! If she went to a bar with a fake ID and got served,it’s the bartender they take away in cuffs!Fair or unfair,that’s the law! If we don’t agree with the law,it’s up to us as voters to try and get the laws changed!Beyond that,what else can be done?

But again,it looks like he’s in enough trouble now that they find out he hasn’t registered as a sex-offender. Looks like he might not find himself in a position to be accused of ANYTHING else for a spell....


45 posted on 11/02/2011 9:45:20 AM PDT by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: massmike
Just because someone else may have failed as a father and now has an uncontrollable animal in their home doesn't mean we ALL raised our daughters to be little pysco-sl*ts.

The differenc is that you are willing to cede that power to another group of individuals; I am not. I want justice served; and justice is not served when you artifically create a class of people who can arbitrarily imprison another.

As-is; your children can - on a whim - make a statement to their teacher, coach or any other adult; and you will be yet another victim plunged into the machine. That's the fact of the matter; you should be scared wit-less.

"No, sweetie; I don't want you going out on a date with Bobby. He's 18 and you are 14; you can go out on dates when you are 16" .... and how rationale are 14 yr old girls? All it takes in one statement. It could be you, it could be your brother, neighbor, co-worker; anyone. And you seem quite happy with that.

46 posted on 11/02/2011 9:45:37 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: massmike
She went to the cops... WRONG!!

No, please don't make up facts. Let's stick to what actually happened, not what you wish had happened.

Police received information that a 14-year-old runaway from Garland was at the camp. Police checked the area and found the girl. During an interview, she revealed that she had had sex with a man in a tent. Armstrong was identified as that man and arrested.

Did you read the article? You seem to have judged him, convicted him and are apparently making up the facts as you go along. So far, we have cops looking for a runaway; they find her. She said she had sex with 'that' guy. So far, so good?

Not the article goes on to say that she told the guy that she was 19. Does that establish the reliability of the girl's integrity? She lied to the accused 'rapist' about her age. That is what she freely admitted to the police; as part of their interview.

So, what do we have? We have a girl who told a guy she was 19, and then she said she had sex with him. How old do you THINK he thought she was? All factual evidence points to 19, right?

Those are the facts ... all right there in the article for you to read.

47 posted on 11/02/2011 9:53:17 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Hodar
..and my point STILL is that if she,or anyone else under 21, went to a bar and got served with a phony ID,the bartender is STILL guilty of serving a minor alcohol! You think the minor with the fake ID gets in as much trouble as the bartender? Guess again!

The difference is the bartender is trying to do an honest day's work! This guy accused of this rape has a bit of a history of sex with young girls....and doesn't seem to learn his lesson! His history suggests that he would have done the same thing whether she told him she was 19 OR 14!

And don't think I'm putting angel wings on the girl! A 14 year old doesn't run away from home and start sleeping with strange men in tents unless she has a screw or two loose!

Quite frankly,they both seem like a twin pair of idiots,but the fact still remains that he is accused of sleeping with a 14 year old;and like the bartender,it doesn't matter if she lied about her age...according to the law! Fair or not is another story!

48 posted on 11/02/2011 10:09:49 AM PDT by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: Hodar
You're lumping fathers WRONGLY accused of something by their kids to a guy that ALREADY was convicted of KNOWINGLY having sex with a minor in the past!

I'll be right there with you defending those dads.

Defend this guy? You're on your own!

49 posted on 11/02/2011 10:18:07 AM PDT by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: Hodar
"Really, so if you are a sex offender; it's now illegal to have a young female in your tent? "

Simple: it violates the terms of his probation re the prior conviction.

To paraphrase Ally McBeal. "It appears that the IQ of the smaller of the perp's heads is the larger..."

50 posted on 11/02/2011 10:19:46 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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