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Perry Camp Denies Leaking Cain Harassment Story, Fingers Romney Campaign
National Journal ^ | Updated: November 2, 2011 | 6:13 p.m.

Posted on 11/02/2011 3:49:03 PM PDT by Perdogg

A spokesman for Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s campaign is adamantly denying that members of the GOP presidential candidate's staff leaked a story has swamped Herman Cain's campaign this week. Instead, the Perry camp is pointing a finger at the campaign of another rival Republican, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, as a possible source of the report about the sexual-harassment charges levelled a decade ago against Cain by female subordinates at the National Restaurant Association.

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KEYWORDS: caindidit; cainscandals; cainsexualharrass; cainvoted4clinton; cainwhome; exdemcain; nononoobamadidit; noromneydidit; perrydidit; sexualharassment
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To: katiedidit1
I'm not sure WHAT Cain could do in this situation. Does he categorically deny everything, and then have a Larry Flynt type pay handsomely to unseal some lips? Cain goes down. Does Cain "come clean" and admit to "indiscretions"? Cain goes down. He's obviously chosen a middle path. "Something happened, but I had no idea about a settlement". Makes him LOOK guilty. Cain goes down.

It pains me greatly, because Cain is almost universally known as a man of character. In Clinton's case, EVERYONE knew he was sleazy, even his friends. Nobody ever came to his defense, saying he was an upright citizen. Even today his most ardent supporters think Clinton was a reprobate, but he was a great liberal, so it's just not "important".

101 posted on 11/02/2011 4:36:16 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... http://www.fda.gov/ucm/groups/Ming the Merciless)
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To: lonestar
"There are more links to Rove and Romney...so why are they accusing Perry?"

You didn't get the memo? Everybody hates Perry because he is the sole reason that all illegal immigrants are in this country.

102 posted on 11/02/2011 4:36:44 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: mylife
Perrys spokesman merely “suggested” that it could be Romney.

Exactly, and he made it clear he was repeating what was being said on various internet sites. Cain stated it as fact, with no source mentioned.

103 posted on 11/02/2011 4:37:26 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: Perdogg

My two cents are still that Rove and Romney are trying to kill two birds with one stone.


104 posted on 11/02/2011 4:37:37 PM PDT by teenyelliott (welcome to the Twilight Zone)
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To: lonestar

I thought we had a viable candidate in Cain. I liked what I heard from him and thought he was the real deal. A real stand-up guy.

With what I heard today about finger-pointing the Perry campaign, I’m not so sure. I am hopeful Cain has the goods on Perry in an iron clad way. Not that I want to see Perry behind this, but I don’t want to see Cain shoot from the hip and be wrong. All this is doing is making a circus of our primary and I wouldn’t be surprised to see Obama get a bump out of this as our candidates, look shallow and petty.

This was supposed to be a good year for conservatives, the media is going to have a field day with all the anonymous allegations and finger-pointing.

When are we going to learn the media is not our friend and unless and until Politico or other MSM outlet publishes facts rather than alegations, it doesn’t even deserve a response.


105 posted on 11/02/2011 4:38:11 PM PDT by offduty ("There are stupid people running this country" Herman Cain CPAC 2011)
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To: lonestar

Cain also said he and Anderson? departed on good terms.
Now he is Accusing the guy and Perry with no proof.

For his part Anderson played good friend and said he knew nothing of the accusations against Cain when asked about it.

I am beginning to really dislike Mr Cain.


106 posted on 11/02/2011 4:38:16 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: plain talk

Hah! Clinton was very good at the latter. I’ve supported Cain since he announced. I have more issues with his 9-9-9 plan than I do with this contrived BS. But, and a big one at that, I still believe Cain is the very best choice that we can make.

Cain 2012


107 posted on 11/02/2011 4:38:25 PM PDT by loucon
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To: McGruff
I doubt the DNC is smiling. They probably had this story in their bag of tricks and it's gone now. That's why I believe in vetting all our candidates now. Not later.

That's a good point. They might be consoled by thinking Willard's going to be the last man standing.

108 posted on 11/02/2011 4:39:06 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: John D

That all you got?


109 posted on 11/02/2011 4:39:32 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: montag813

Perry’s spokesman just pointed to stories that suggested Romney was behind it, and said he wouldn’t put it past them. Cain stated it as fact with no evidence.


110 posted on 11/02/2011 4:41:19 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: Darkwolf377
How the **** did we get here when we had three years to find a real conservative leader?

Well, for starters, we had to work with the GOP.

Think about the cop on the street, content that citizens are carrying weapons. Then think about the chiefs, damning the thought. Same here.

111 posted on 11/02/2011 4:41:44 PM PDT by glock rocks (Wait, what? Channel surfing without a remote since 2001)
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To: mylife

Pfffft.
You never liked him to begin with, but who cares.

There is NO evidence of that he did anything wrong, yet you’re ready to believe he’s in the wrong.

Sell your feigned sentiments elsewhere.


112 posted on 11/02/2011 4:43:29 PM PDT by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC BY DONATING NOW! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: onyx

It appears to be bigger than that.


113 posted on 11/02/2011 4:44:05 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Hugin

You don’t know what evidence Cain has!


114 posted on 11/02/2011 4:44:31 PM PDT by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC BY DONATING NOW! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: BagCamAddict

I’d want to see the question they were asked, and their exact answer. The statement as worded in this story isn’t an accusation. It’s a suggestion. Given that we have had multiple threads today attacking Romney and giving plausible leak stories implicating either him or his supporters, it is a rational statement to say that Romney’s camp may have been behind it (which is the words used in the story).

Never use headlines as a description of what is being told — they are written by people whose job is to draw readers, not necessarily match the story.


115 posted on 11/02/2011 4:44:34 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: kevao

There is a difference between that and a flat out personal accusation by Cain himself with NO PROOF.


116 posted on 11/02/2011 4:45:27 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: kevao

Sounds silly on the surface, but I kid you not a woman in our area who calls in regularly to the local talk shows, in fact, said just yesterday that in her opinion, it was Newt behind this hit on Cain. I usually give her the benefit of the doubt, but on this one, I couldn’t diagree more. If it were Newt’s campaign, I’d be shocked, to say the least.


117 posted on 11/02/2011 4:45:37 PM PDT by Mean Maryjean
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To: onyx
You don’t know what evidence Cain has!

If he has some, let's see it! Put up or shut up!

118 posted on 11/02/2011 4:46:59 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: loucon
I have more issues with his 9-9-9 plan than I do with this contrived BS.

Yeah I hear ya. I don't have major problems with either. I just want Cain to handle this well. I don't like 9-9-9 but since it's going nowhere anyway it is really just a vehicle for a discussion on lower taxes. So let's hope he calmly deals with this mini-crisis the media has created.

119 posted on 11/02/2011 4:47:01 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Hugin

Bingo!


120 posted on 11/02/2011 4:47:35 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: catfish1957

Why would DeMint or Palin want all this grief?

Both were smart to say uhuh.


121 posted on 11/02/2011 4:48:20 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Darkwolf377

Because many people were on the sidelines waiting for their choice to enter the race, and when she didn’t, they were despondent, had already torn apart every other conservative to keep the field clear for her, and all that was left was the inexperienced amateur Cain, who they hadn’t attacked because they didn’t see the point?


122 posted on 11/02/2011 4:49:04 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Hugin
Exactly, and he made it clear he was repeating what was being said on various internet sites. Cain stated it as fact, with no source mentioned.

LOL. Well, if Perry's campaign is the guilty party, it's spokesman can hardly cite another campaign "with evidence"!

Furthermore, Cain doesn't have to provide a source, not to the media, and not at this time. We don't know exactly the venue Cain might want to pursue.

123 posted on 11/02/2011 4:49:22 PM PDT by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC BY DONATING NOW! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: Hugin

One of his campaign people was a lawyer for Cain (I think). There are many links to his campaign, but Cain should be more careful with these accusations.


124 posted on 11/02/2011 4:49:44 PM PDT by chilepup
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To: offduty

Cain is constantly shooting from the lip, “the rock”, “the electric fence” “real guns with real bullets”

Now his position on the fence mirrors Perry’s LoL.


125 posted on 11/02/2011 4:50:10 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Not on your life, mylife.
There’s no there.


126 posted on 11/02/2011 4:50:49 PM PDT by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC BY DONATING NOW! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

“Quit whining”. I’m not, NowApp...just worried.


127 posted on 11/02/2011 4:51:57 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (Conservative SOS!)
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To: mylife

LOL. Right, so now the Perry supporters are parsing words. I thought you got angry at Cain for calling your guy insensitive because of a rock...and now, you are doing the same with semantics! LOL. Typical.


128 posted on 11/02/2011 4:51:57 PM PDT by chilepup
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To: vette6387

What you say, of course, is what actually does make sense, but it does not seem to deter those who are willing to accept baseless allegations without throroughly analyzing them. Launching a cascade of weak allegations is the greatest possible success that the desparate Obamabots could hope for.


129 posted on 11/02/2011 4:53:31 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: onyx

I am on record for admiring Cain.
But his hemming and hawing have put me off of him.


130 posted on 11/02/2011 4:54:14 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Darkwolf377
Until they show a dress with Cains DNA on it, I don't care.

If Romney and Perry were smart, they'd say unless you tell me who in my campaign leaked it, I will not comment...That keeps them out of it without a name they aren't involved.

Cain should demand a name or use the word slander. Let the females get in the public and lets put them through the same wringer Cain is going through.

No DNA, no police report of abuse with pictures, its just a he said she said and the one that got the money has motivation to get more money...I want more proof than her mouth...That's not proof.

Can we say disgruntled employee.

I am getting sick and tired of women that cannot hack it in the business world yelling harassment. It gets heard so much that the very few that are truly sexually harassed don't get believed....Same goes for yelling rape when you sober up...Its too horrible a crime to let it be yelled out by some drunken female that decided to go to some scums apartment...Since the 60's females have gotten stupid. Go to some guys apartment that you just met, what the hell do you expect..

131 posted on 11/02/2011 4:54:39 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: boop

It will never be swept under the rug unless the woman comes out in public and the American people know more about HER. The leaking, speculating and paranoia are falling right into the democrats lap. It would BLOW half the bloggers on this site away IF the leak came from a left winger. At one time I was gung ho over election 2012...now I am sick at heart and almost ready to tune out politics. Watching the gop devour their own is disgusting. One reason I like the Reagan law...


132 posted on 11/02/2011 4:55:46 PM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: lonestar

Now who do we believe? When it was Cain denying rumors with no evidence, the rule was we believe Cain, and not the rumors.

I am firmly on that train. The aide denies it, if there is no evidence that he was involved, then I believe the aide.

And after a day of seeing Romney connections all over this forum, to have Cain come out and directly accuse Perry is just about the last straw for me. That’s twice now Perry has falsely accused Perry of something.

And remember, this morning Cain said he was sure this had to do with him being black, but had no evidence. So — is he saying his aide, a guy who tried to get him elected in 2004, is a racist?

Cain doesn’t know what Cain is saying anymore. He’s gone from sweet innocent Cain to angry bitter Cain — in his very first crisis.

Look — there’s a reason we don’t elect amateurs with NO EXPERIENCE to the highest office in our land. It’s because we have no idea how they will react when something goes wrong. Now we see, and it’s not pretty.

I’ve been hard on Cain for his organization and messaging. But I’ve been behind him on the charges against him, and defended him against personal attacks made by others here.

But since Cain has now shown twice that he is willing not to just suggest, but to directly accuse another individual falsely, I’m not sure why I should care if he is being falsely accused.

And when I see the Perry campaign’s actual words, if it turns out someone on their campaign staff made a specific charge against a Romney staffer, and they don’t have proof, I’ll call for their head as well.


133 posted on 11/02/2011 4:56:05 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: mylife

Oh, really. Well if you’re that into splitting hairs, then I will point out to you that Cain did not “personally accuse” anybody. It was his campaign manager.


134 posted on 11/02/2011 4:56:09 PM PDT by kevao
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To: Perdogg

I can’t help but wonder -— who ultimately benefits from this Cain-Perry-Romney merry-go-round?


135 posted on 11/02/2011 4:56:25 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: All
Romney opposed the two most successful conservative policy efforts of the last 30 years... the Reagan policies of the 1980`s and the Contract With America of the 1990`s. Team Romney's hit squad went after Palin in 2008.

The most ironclad case against Mitt Romney

Read it. Know it. Share it. Link it. Its damning.

136 posted on 11/02/2011 4:57:59 PM PDT by 506Lake (I'll say it again... no more compromise.)
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To: onyx

We shall see.


137 posted on 11/02/2011 4:58:40 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Perdogg
He said, she said.

This whole deal makes me sick.

138 posted on 11/02/2011 4:59:45 PM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: chilepup

I am still mad about Cain for the rock BS.


139 posted on 11/02/2011 4:59:53 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: steveab
I do no, but I would be looking into the background of the lawyer for $35,000 gal.

It would appear that there's only two degrees of separation between the lawyer and Hillary Clinton.

140 posted on 11/02/2011 5:01:17 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Perdogg

Well next weeks debate should be entertaining.


141 posted on 11/02/2011 5:02:01 PM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Darkwolf377
How the **** did we get here when we had three years to find a real conservative leader?

Paul Ryan and Gov. McDonnell (+ Ron Johnson and Rick Scott) will be ready in 2016.

142 posted on 11/02/2011 5:02:13 PM PDT by rfp1234 (RFP's Law: Whoever blames Bush first shall lose the argument.)
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To: All
Romney opposed the two most successful conservative policy efforts of the last 30 years... the Reagan policies of the 1980`s and the Contract With America of the 1990`s. Team Romney's hit squad went after Palin in 2008.

The most ironclad case against Mitt Romney

Read it. Know it. Share it. Link it. Its damning.

143 posted on 11/02/2011 5:02:53 PM PDT by 506Lake (I'll say it again... no more compromise.)
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To: Perdogg

Doesn’t make sense for Romney to do that. Heck he said in a debate paraphrasing “if you can’t support me, support Herman Cain.”

Hoping that conservatives will split their vote between Cain and Perry and leaving him standing. In any “crime” you look for a motive. I don’t see it.


144 posted on 11/02/2011 5:03:48 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
That’s twice now Perry Cain has falsely accused Perry of something.
145 posted on 11/02/2011 5:04:01 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: kevao

Read the Forbes article.
Cain leveled the accusation himself.

Block parroted it on FNC tonight.


146 posted on 11/02/2011 5:05:31 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Raebie

“This is rapidly turning into a made for TV Lifetime movie”.

You’re right, Raebie. But one thing we all have to remember is that most people aren’t paying any attention to this stuff.
There are those non voters or Obamabots who aren’t engaged.
But many who aren’t drones are also among the uninformed right now.
They are taking their kids to piano lessons, working, watching TV, reading People mag., googling the results of Dancing with the Stars or raking leaves.
My nephew who is a “stauch Republican” has never heard of Cain(not kidding)...much less that this scandal is going on.


147 posted on 11/02/2011 5:05:55 PM PDT by Mountain Mary ("Don't Doubt Me. I'll let you know when to panic" El Rushbo)
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To: PAConservative1
Nope. Don’t let the media/liberals/GOPbots fool you.

FOX news reported a small blurp about the GOP,
Members should be careful and not back up Cain.

It was a 3-sec sentence and then a "Back to You".

148 posted on 11/02/2011 5:09:50 PM PDT by MaxMax
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To: Perdogg

divide and conquer - look in democrat cesspools for the culprits


149 posted on 11/02/2011 5:10:37 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: mylife
Read the Forbes article. Cain leveled the accusation himself.

I did read the Forbes article. In it, Cain fingered Curt Anderson. Nowhere in the article did Cain mention Perry or the Perry campaign.

150 posted on 11/02/2011 5:15:13 PM PDT by kevao
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