Skip to comments.PJM Sources Report Details of Alleged Cain Incident
Posted on 11/03/2011 10:04:50 AM PDT by bbernard
Adding to the ongoing Herman Cain sexual harassment controversy, two sources have now confirmed to PJ Media that a female employee of the National Restaurant Association told associates she had been brought by Mr. Cain to his Crystal City, Virginia residence where she alleged he had taken advantage of me.
One source, a male, told PJ Media:
Herman took advantage of seniority and power with a young woman. It was an abuse of power.
Implying that coming forward with the accusations was an ordeal for the young woman, the source also said:
Who do you believe, a CEO or a mid-level staffer? It was unsettling for her to make charges.
The name of the woman who was in her early twenties at the time of the alleged incident has been confirmed by PJ Media. We have chosen not to reveal her identity for reasons of discretion.
Both sources, one male and one female, worked at the time mid-1990s for the governmental affairs department of the National Restaurant Association, as did the woman.
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Otherwise it's just another mendacious political hit job and nothing else.
Somebody ping me if we ever get a so-called “source” that isn’t anonymous.
Are you crazy? Let's compare two drunk people at a company party to a sober US president putting an intern on her knees in the oval office after years of screwing everything that would move.
One is a drunken mistake, one is a serial adulterer and scumbag.
Romney mooned me with his magic underwear as I drove off the used-car lot in the lemon he sold me!
Mr. Cain was supposed to have a “corporate” apartment at that time. Had Mrs. Cain not moved to DC with him? Somehow that doesn’t help the story.
Ever read “The Firm”.
Every man is “that kind of person”, under the right circumstances. The only one that wasn’t was hung on a cross.
Whether Cain did anything or not, I’m starting to get this sinking feeling that it won’t matter. They are hell bent on getting him out of the way. It will be hard to defend all of this crap.
This is the first day that I have felt like “oh $hit”, we’re gonna end up with Mitt. And if I find out Mitt had anything,,,,,,I mean anything to do with this. I won’t vote for that rat ba$tard in the general. We already have a rat ba$tard in office. He can KMA.
This is Clinton all over again except Cain has a R after this name.
Is she accusing him of FORCING her to go his house? In other words he hit on her and nothing happened after that?
This is same media that doesn’t care when a Democrat is accused of rape.
—Or have writing across their chest in BIG letters—
I’ve seen that sort of thing where I have intentionally stared and said, “You keep moving. I’m having a hard time reading that.”
I meant THEY keep moving...
good post....I really got taken in by Herman...and I may “still” be there depending on what information comes out of all of this.
I understand why people want to build a wall around him. It isn’t fair - they didn’t care about Clinton, they didn’t vet Obama.
So - there is a “up yours” mentality towards the RINOs and the MSM.
I get it.
On the other hand...Herman was a minister. He was just singing about grace before the reporters.
I don’t want our side to wind up with a Clinton.
I’m still hoping this is just a palin/style witch hunt and that we won’t find any “there” there.
Remember Palin’s alleged “affair”? and impending divorce?
Anne O'Nymous is writing her tell-all tome.
I'm extremely familiar with Clarence Thomas. There's a BIG difference between winning elective office, and getting confirmed for an appointed job.
Forgive me if I’m wrong, but you have the stench of a perrybot shill all over you.
These are disturbing allegations against Cain. If true, even partially, he should not be elected. They are serious and we should demand better of our leaders.
However, I will not believe or accept third party information. I understand that it might be hard for the woman to speak out. She will be savaged (rightly or wrongly, it can’t be determined yet) by some conservatives. But we are talking about the President of the United States, and we are talking about the good of the whole country. If Cain is really this bad guy, she owes it to the country to speak out. If not, then I must assume she’s playing politics.
—But the corporate world is different. I dont think Cain even had a say in it.—
You are assuming this story is true, then? Maybe he hasn’t been unfaithful. Maybe his wife does know these things. Have you thought of that?
The harrassment came the next morning when he held his hand up to her nose and said “you snore just like my wife”.
Lisa Myers: Did you think his interest in you at the time was personal or professional?
Juanita Broaddrick: I thought it was professional, completely.
Myers: So you thought this was going to be a business meeting?
Broaddrick: Yes I did, I really did.
Myers: Did you have qualms at all about him coming to the room?
Broaddrick: I was a little bit uneasy. But, I felt, ah, a real friendship toward this man and I didnt really feel any, um any danger in him coming to my room. I sort of ushered us over to the coffee I had coffee sitting on a little table over there by the window and it was a real pretty window view that looked down at the river. And he came around me and sort of put his arm over my shoulder to point to this little building and he said he was real interested if he became governor to restore that little building and then all of a sudden, he turned me around and started kissing me. And that was a real shock.
Myers: What did you do?
Broaddrick: I first pushed him away and just told him No, please dont do that, and I forget, its been 21 years, Lisa, and I forget exactly what he was saying. It seems like he was making statements that would relate to Did you not know why I was coming up here? and I told him at the time, I said, Im married, and I have other things going on in my life, and this is something that Im not interested in.
Myers: Had you, that morning, or any other time, given him any reason to believe you might be receptive?
Broaddrick: No. None. None whatsoever.
Myers: Then what happens?
Broaddrick: Then he tries to kiss me again. And the second time he tries to kiss me he starts biting my lip (she cries). Just a minute... He starts to, um, bite on my top lip and I tried to pull away from him. (crying) And then he forces me down on the bed. And I just was very frightened, and I tried to get away from him and I told him No, that I didnt want this to happen (crying) but he wouldnt listen to me.
Myers: Did you resist, did you tell him to stop?
Broaddrick: Yes, I told him Please dont. He was such a different person at that moment, he was just a vicious awful person.
Myers: You said there was a point at which you stopped resisting?
Broaddrick: It was a real panicky, panicky situation. I was even to the point where I was getting very noisy, you know, yelling to Please stop. And thats when he pressed down on my right shoulder and he would bite my lip.
Broaddrick also says the waist of her skirt and her pantyhose were torn.
Juanita Broaddrick: When everything was over with, he got up and straightened himself, and I was crying at the moment and he walks to the door, and calmly puts on his sunglasses. And before he goes out the door he says You better get some ice on that. And he turned and went out the door.
Myers: On your lip?
The poor girl. She was so young that her parents had to help. I have a young 20-some-year-old daughter still at home, and I can see where if something that devastating had happened to her, my husband and I would be standing by her helping her through it.
My heart just breaks that this young lady had to go through that, and she’ll probably never get completely over that.
What I’m hearing today is that a couple of these women are working with their lawyers to prepare formal public statements as a means of providing the public information while protecting the victims from as much embarrassment as possible.
The formal legal statements will be dispensed to the news outlets as soon as the NRA officially grants them their go-ahead. That should help all public concerns.
Odd how the supermarket tabloids have nothing on this as yet.
Very important people make a distinction here. Perhaps the source would like us all to believe they were in bed together, but there's nothing to indicate that was the case.
“Its like the woman with cleavage that becomes outraged when a man stares at her boobs.”
I saw a tee shirt in Key West last month that said “Would you ask your boobs to stop looking into my eyes” , or something like that...
—Seems to me that I read somewhere that a person has the right to face their accusers—
In real court, yes. In the court of public opinion? Not so much.
I always thought the original reference was a joke that the hair from the head of a black person could be said to resemble pubic hair. I once worked at a place with black and white people who were comfortable making racial jokes with each other. One such joke was "Carl, you left pubic hair in the sink again!". I always assumed the Thomas/Hill episode was a similar thing: "there's a pubic hair on my coke can!".
I hear ya, but almost 3,000 paid with their lives for Clinton and his juggling act on 9/11. Never again!
This is a simple smear campaign. We shall not let the lamestream media dictate our candidate for president. Perry had a clear conflict of interest in doing the guardisil thing by executive order. It was his former chief of staff for crying out loud! NO one has mentioned that in the process! It made things good for the company his ex-staff member worked for but the establishment media and Repubs went silent on that! That clear conflict of interest should have eliminated Perry from the start. The Tea Partiers need to fight like hell to make this decision and not let anyone be eliminated by the slimeball lamestream media.
—But based on the few bits of information, it sound much more likely that something consensual happened—
Actually, on the few bits of information, we haven’t got a clue. ALL of the juicy stuff is speculation aided but inuendo.
We haven’t got squat.
There is probably a reason they didn't believe her!
that’s an excellent point.
"Alternately: she slept with the boss, felt she didn't get enough value for her services and decided to cash in her sexual harassment chip."
There were two adults here, and assuming that it was consensual- if anything did actually happen between them at his home (she didn't file criminal charges apparently, so no allegations of rape, etc.)- she bears a share of responsibility for what happened, as well.
Poor judgment on his part if true, but he certainly wouldn't be the first presidential candidate to have had an affair.
The correct question to ask of Mr Cain is: Did you participate with any of these claimants in any sexual or touching behavior of any kind?
It is possible that a consensual (albeit adulterous on his part)contact on Cain’s part was not found to be harrassment.
It is also possible that this a gold-digger who took advantage of being alone with the boss to file accusations.
It must come out before the election; no republican will get the pass the media gave Clinton. It’s just not going to happen.
—Are we all losing sight of the fact that this story is completely different from the one her lawyer was telling just a day ago??—
I haven’t. Trust me, this is ridiculous unless we get something tangible with a name attached to it. So far it is nothing more than bad theater.
“People need to stop being astonished by this”
It really is shocking a charismatic and powerful man has been fooling around on his wife. He needs to own up to it and move on. This is only a disqualifier if we let it be.
“These are disturbing allegations against Cain. If true, even partially, he should not be elected. They are serious and we should demand better of our leaders.
However, I will not believe or accept third party information. I understand that it might be hard for the woman to speak out. She will be savaged (rightly or wrongly, it cant be determined yet) by some conservatives. But we are talking about the President of the United States, and we are talking about the good of the whole country. If Cain is really this bad guy, she owes it to the country to speak out. If not, then I must assume shes playing politics.”
I couldn’t have said it better, it was worth repeating.
Cain and Block choose to climb down into the gutter pointing fingers at others and making dumbass accusations that don't hold up under basic scrutiny. Cain has been talking out both sides of his mouth. While Block has just been running his mouth off. This lashing out is juvenile and shows that a bunch of incompetent neophytes are running the campaign.
This nothing but They Said That She Said.
It’s not even He said/she said yet!
Wrong. Clinton actually did what he was accused of doing and much worse. So far, they have only innuendo on Cain. Nice try.
Yes, I agree, that was written that way for a purpose.
This is not analogous to Lewinski. This is analogous to Gennifer Flowers, right down to the timing.
He still won the election.
With Lewinski, we had to let him off or see Gore as president. And Clinton KNEW it.
Ah yes, more old bitty rumor mongering dressed up to look like feint praise. You people are absolutely disgusting.
Don’t worry. 60 minutes will do a special interview of Cain and his wife, she will say she is standing by her man, and he’ll go on to win the nomination.
Ow, wait he not a Democrat?
I won’t be voting for Mitt either if he does get it...but if Newt goes to the top he’ll beat out Romney as well as Obama....CAin will have to fight hard against both of them because they do have the information Cain has to “discover” in order to even comment.
I don’t think CAin will make it thru to the end...he’ll back down in order to take another position within the administration IMO....and be a part of the ticket..one way or another we’ll see him in Washington eventually.
I continue to lean toward Newt regardless of his faults and past....he can turn the ship as no other can and that’s just a proven fact.
What's the agenda of the mid-level staffer?