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PJM Sources Report Details of Alleged Cain Incident
PJMedia ^ | November 3, 2011 | Richard Pollock

Posted on 11/03/2011 10:04:50 AM PDT by bbernard

Adding to the ongoing Herman Cain sexual harassment controversy, two sources have now confirmed to PJ Media that a female employee of the National Restaurant Association told associates she had been brought by Mr. Cain to his Crystal City, Virginia residence where she alleged “he had taken advantage of me.”

One source, a male, told PJ Media:

Herman took advantage of seniority and power with a young woman. It was an abuse of power.

Implying that coming forward with the accusations was an ordeal for the young woman, the source also said:

Who do you believe, a CEO or a mid-level staffer? It was unsettling for her to make charges.

The name of the woman — who was in her early twenties at the time of the alleged incident — has been confirmed by PJ Media. We have chosen not to reveal her identity for reasons of discretion.

Both sources, one male and one female, worked at the time — mid-1990s — for the governmental affairs department of the National Restaurant Association, as did the woman.

(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cain; cainsexualharrass; cainslander; harrassment; herbcain; herman; hermancain; misogynist; pjm; sexual
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Third Party Witnesses - Sounds like bull to me... I need to hear it from the woman.
1 posted on 11/03/2011 10:04:51 AM PDT by bbernard
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To: bbernard

So she is saying he touched her?


2 posted on 11/03/2011 10:06:52 AM PDT by GoCards (I am a Hobbit)
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To: bbernard

Drip, drip, drip - NOT.


3 posted on 11/03/2011 10:07:08 AM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: bbernard

“What did Tom do next, Miss May Ella?”


4 posted on 11/03/2011 10:08:01 AM PDT by relictele
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To: bbernard

Unless he inserted a cigar while under the desk in the oval office I don’t care! Clinton set a new standard whether the MSM wants to acknowledge it or not.


5 posted on 11/03/2011 10:08:12 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: bbernard
Who do you believe, a CEO or a mid-level staffer? 

I have a two word reply for lefties: Juanita Broaddrick.

6 posted on 11/03/2011 10:09:15 AM PDT by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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Freepathons aren't like bathing cats.
Feel the wrath!
Just click to donate
And you don't lose any skin or children in the process!

7 posted on 11/03/2011 10:09:22 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: bbernard
"took advantage of seniority and power with a young woman. It was an abuse of power"


8 posted on 11/03/2011 10:09:32 AM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: GoCards

If he took her home and they slept in the same bed, Cain is finished. No way around it. Herman is a married man and even if she wasn’t pressured or harassed into anything, this would be enough to destroy him in the Republican party.


9 posted on 11/03/2011 10:09:32 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: bbernard

So, she woke up in Cain’s bed after a night of drinking and it is his fault.

Typical BS from a woman who can’t control herself.


10 posted on 11/03/2011 10:09:53 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Cain for President - Because I like the content of his character)
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To: bbernard
Here she is.


11 posted on 11/03/2011 10:10:16 AM PDT by McGruff (Hold the House, take the Senate.)
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To: bbernard
According to both sources, Mr. Cain and the woman had been with a large group for a long evening of food and drink at the Ciao Baby Cucina, a restaurant near NRA headquarters in downtown Washington, D.C. This was a normal routine, as the trade association worked with the food and beverage industry. Afterwards, Mr. Cain allegedly took the woman by taxi to his apartment, where she spent the night and woke up in his bed.

Sexual harassment? I think not. Generally, if she spends the night, it doesn't qualify as harassment. If this is true (and I am VERY skeptical), it's infidelity - and a character issue. I don't see this as what they are advertising, and while I will think far less of him if it turns out to be true, it's not sexual harassment or an abuse of power.

12 posted on 11/03/2011 10:10:20 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: bbernard


13 posted on 11/03/2011 10:10:32 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: bbernard

If it were true the bimbos that haven’t signed a confidentiality agreement would be blabbing their heads off in hopes of making millions with book deals and interview fees. The fact that they aren’t tells me this is a huge pile of steaming BS. Rush nailed it yesterday. The reason this looks just like what they did to Clarence Thomas is because it’s is exactly like what they did to Clarence Thomas. We now know who Dims and Republican establishment types fear the most.


14 posted on 11/03/2011 10:10:52 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Wanna keep livin' with your momma? Vote for Obama. Tired of the pain? Vote CAIN!)
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To: Longbow1969

First, you have to believe the woman is telling the truth.


15 posted on 11/03/2011 10:10:58 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Cain for President - Because I like the content of his character)
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To: bbernard

Sounds like this is a response to people saying that asking somebody if they wanted to come to your room isn’t sexual harassment, as long as they leave you alone when you say no.

The story keeps shifting, depending on what the public response is - whether the latest stuff flung at Cain actually “sticks”. Watching the accusations evolve would be hilarious if it wasn’t so sickening.


16 posted on 11/03/2011 10:11:17 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: bbernard

“We have chosen not to reveal her identity for reasons of discretion.”

How can you expect anyone to believe this when they refuse to identify the indiviuals?

This cracks me up......


17 posted on 11/03/2011 10:11:27 AM PDT by bbernard
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To: Longbow1969

Yeah, just like Newt Gingrich, Ike, that guy in Louisiana, etc., etc.


18 posted on 11/03/2011 10:12:14 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: bbernard

can someone please come forward and annonomously claim that Romney mooned them with his magic mormon underware?


19 posted on 11/03/2011 10:12:44 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Cain 2012!)
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To: Erik Latranyi

It was only his fault after it became financially lucrative to report it in the media.


20 posted on 11/03/2011 10:12:45 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: relictele
“What did Tom do next, Miss May Ella?”

From "To Kill a Mockingbird", right? One of my all time favorite classic movies.
21 posted on 11/03/2011 10:13:06 AM PDT by Dan in Wichita
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To: McGruff

That looks like an Okie.


22 posted on 11/03/2011 10:13:15 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: bbernard
Who do you believe, a CEO or a mid-level staffer? It was unsettling for her to make charges.

Who do you believe, a supreme court nominee or some ditzy story about public hairs on a Coke can?

Particularly when the ditz followed the gentleman on two job promotions and was promised fame and fortune for her testimony by libtards who couldn't stand to see another promotion for a man who has behaved in nothing less than gentlemanly fashion for more than two decades since?

23 posted on 11/03/2011 10:13:27 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Excellent points. The woman made her own decision to have sex with a man — then, she castigates the man for accepting her embellishments. Be careful guys; the woods are full of this vile type today.


24 posted on 11/03/2011 10:13:50 AM PDT by hampdenkid
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To: TexasFreeper2009

That is funny right there.....


25 posted on 11/03/2011 10:13:54 AM PDT by bbernard
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To: kcvl

>> Unless he inserted a cigar while under the desk in the oval office I don’t care!

I care. Character is important in a POTUS; I don’t care what poor example Clintoon set.

On the other hand, I just can’t get too worked up when those with a transparently anti-Cain agenda push vague innuendo from anonymous sources.


26 posted on 11/03/2011 10:13:58 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Longbow1969

If this turns out to be true, then the GOP is screwed, blued, and tattooed. No viable conservative candidate. Mitt is the nominee, Barry the Boob gets his 2nd term (and possible dictatorship for life), and our country gone with no hope of recovery.


27 posted on 11/03/2011 10:14:04 AM PDT by hoagy62 (The United States of America. Great idea...while it lasted.)
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To: bbernard

We’ve now got a full Clinton on our hands.


28 posted on 11/03/2011 10:14:47 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: bbernard
What does this mean, "she woke up in his bed?" Was he there? Had he been there?

Do we know if this woman got drunk at a business event and was taken to Cain's home to sleep it off?

-PJ

29 posted on 11/03/2011 10:14:47 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: Paladin2

To hell with this lying BEEYOTCH. I am still voting for Cain.


30 posted on 11/03/2011 10:14:51 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: Paladin2

To hell with this lying BEEYOTCH. I am still voting for Cain.


31 posted on 11/03/2011 10:14:57 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: Paladin2

To hell with this lying BEEYOTCH. I am still voting for Cain.


32 posted on 11/03/2011 10:14:57 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: butterdezillion

This is one time we agree. The ‘he made inappropriate comments’ didn’t hurt him, so now they are ramping up the accusations.

Before long, Cain will be accused of raping her dog...


33 posted on 11/03/2011 10:15:08 AM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: Nervous Tick

“I just can’t get too worked up when those with a transparently anti-Cain agenda push vague innuendo from anonymous sources.”

Exactly.... Until we get something concrete I will continue to support him.


34 posted on 11/03/2011 10:16:26 AM PDT by bbernard
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To: bbernard

So, are further “detail” leaking because it’s the normal progression of news or because the attempted smear hasn’t yet work?

Cain says the story will vindicate him; unnamed sources says it’ll finish him.

Dirty politics is alive and well.


35 posted on 11/03/2011 10:16:25 AM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: Political Junkie Too

So Cain’s wife didn’t live with him in VA? I’m confused.


36 posted on 11/03/2011 10:16:38 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: McGruff

That’s funny...


37 posted on 11/03/2011 10:17:17 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must...)
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To: bbernard

This entire sex scandal keeps getting more messy with each passing day.

Cain&CO hasn’t handled it well at all and that has made the situation worse.


38 posted on 11/03/2011 10:17:47 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Longbow1969

Normally I would agree but then why wasn’t it the end of Bill Clinton!?! This is a smear campaign plain and simple.

Ravenstar


39 posted on 11/03/2011 10:18:07 AM PDT by Ravenstar (Reinstitute the Constitution as the Ultimate Law of the Land --Cain 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, I guess that David Vitter won’t be endorsing Cain in the near future..


40 posted on 11/03/2011 10:18:16 AM PDT by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: kcvl

If this is true—and I have no idea that it is, but usually the made up sexual harassment charges are decidely more mild—this is worse than Clinton and his cigar. They were about the same age as subordinates, and the Cain woman was clearly intoxicated.


41 posted on 11/03/2011 10:18:16 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: bbernard

From comments:
“I want to hear what Mary Jo Kopechne has to say about this.”

This story is written in such an odd way. “She woke up in his bed”. What does that mean? She woke up next to Mr Cain? He was in another room or absent from the apartment and may have not even spent the night there himself? If he was in the apt surely they must have said something to each other.


42 posted on 11/03/2011 10:18:45 AM PDT by lovesdogs
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To: Pollster1
...According to both sources, Mr. Cain and the woman had been with a large group for a long evening of food and drink...afterwards, Mr. Cain allegedly took the woman by taxi to his apartment, where she spent the night and woke up in his bed.

Hmmmm. Since there are two "sources" they all had to be together at Mr. Cain's apartment. Were they all in his bed? They ALL had to at least be at his apartment to be credible "sources", right?

43 posted on 11/03/2011 10:19:13 AM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Longbow1969
If he took her home and they slept in the same bed, Cain is finished. No way around it. Herman is a married man and even if she wasn’t pressured or harassed into anything, this would be enough to destroy him in the Republican party.

I'm with you. If this is true, I will be very disappointed. We can't have a candidate who has done this sort of thing to a twenty-something.

44 posted on 11/03/2011 10:19:30 AM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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To: bbernard; All

Hotair has a link to the article as well. The MSM will be onto this story by 6pm tonight.


45 posted on 11/03/2011 10:19:41 AM PDT by bbernard
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To: bbernard
Is there not one person willing to give their name (not talking about the woman which would require the NRA to drop the confidentiality agreements, but these anonymous "sources")?

I think this part of the article is EXTREMELY relevant: (emphasis mine)

The female source told PJ Media that she witnessed the woman entering a taxi with Herman Cain.

Neither source has direct knowledge of what occurred at Mr. Cain’s residence, but several days after the alleged incident, the male source witnessed the woman returning to her workplace “distraught.” “She was very upset.”

One source told PJ Media: “Some people didn’t believe [the accuser]” at the time she made the allegation. The female source recalls the woman continued working at the NRA for several weeks after the encounter; the male source recalls the woman continued working there for a few months.


I'm not ready to call this total B.S., but it really does sound like a witch-hunt at this point. This isn't journalism, it's a smear campaign (even if it is PJMedia running the article - just because they claim to be conservative really doesn't absolve them of possible wrongdoing in publishing this article which is chock-full of hearsay).


46 posted on 11/03/2011 10:19:53 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: bbernard
Most interesting detail of the piece:

The anonymous sources admit that "some people didn't believe her" at the time.

47 posted on 11/03/2011 10:20:01 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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If there's money to be made from serious accusations against a CEO, I wouldn't be quick to believe the mid-level staffer.
48 posted on 11/03/2011 10:20:03 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Mr Rogers

He’s also responsible for Natalie Holloway .


49 posted on 11/03/2011 10:20:12 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: bbernard

I think everyone needs to look at this in the context of the times. As I recall, the government was in high gear pursuing claims of sexual abuse/discrimination in the 1990’s. Claims were often made without basis, knowing that companies would settle quickly rather than face the wrath of the government. Once innocent comments led to dismissals and I personally saw several co-workers released for comments that merely got giggles decades earlier. As far as I’m concerned anything that didn’t go to trial, is unsubstantiated or not backed by an admission of guilt, should not be discussed. Hearing it from the woman, who obviously complained for financial gain rather than pursuing criminal charges, would do nothing to influence my thoughts on the matter.


50 posted on 11/03/2011 10:20:30 AM PDT by Boomer One
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