Skip to comments.PJM Sources Report Details of Alleged Cain Incident
Posted on 11/03/2011 10:04:50 AM PDT by bbernard
Adding to the ongoing Herman Cain sexual harassment controversy, two sources have now confirmed to PJ Media that a female employee of the National Restaurant Association told associates she had been brought by Mr. Cain to his Crystal City, Virginia residence where she alleged he had taken advantage of me.
One source, a male, told PJ Media:
Herman took advantage of seniority and power with a young woman. It was an abuse of power.
Implying that coming forward with the accusations was an ordeal for the young woman, the source also said:
Who do you believe, a CEO or a mid-level staffer? It was unsettling for her to make charges.
The name of the woman who was in her early twenties at the time of the alleged incident has been confirmed by PJ Media. We have chosen not to reveal her identity for reasons of discretion.
Both sources, one male and one female, worked at the time mid-1990s for the governmental affairs department of the National Restaurant Association, as did the woman.
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The problem with your scenario is that the woman made a complaint and the NRA paid her to go away. If she had not said a word and brought it up now like one the so called ‘victims’ is doing, I would agree with you.
What did Tom do next, Miss May Ella?
From “To Kill a Mockingbird”, right? One of my all time favorite classic movies.
Mayella testified that Tom raped her. Why? Because the prohibition against a White woman willingly having sex with a Black man was one of this country’s most sacred mores. The idea that a White woman would sexually pursue a Black man contradicted the white supremacist notion that Blacks were inferior in all ways that mattered. White women were held up as paragons of virtue — Black women were seen as asexual mammies or hypersexual tramps. Black men were portrayed as Toms, Sambos, and Coons — all with the potential to become raping Brutes.http://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/question/may07/
He said, she said unless there are witness that she told someone it is all hogwash.
“...he had taken advantage of me.”
What does that mean? Did he talk nasty to her, or did he do a full on, lip biting, Clinton rape? Were police notified? Was her job threatened? Is there any sperm on a dress? How do we know anything really happened? There is nothing here, and that is how this should be treated until there is something, and even then, if then ever comes, I would warn conservatives not to get involved in a circular firing squad.
We are not the party of Bill Clinton. The Republican party is far more traditional and god fearing and if it turns out Cain cheated on his wife here then he is finished for the 2012 campaign. There is just no way around it.
As a Cain supporter this is doom.
First I hope he wasn't so cavalier that he didn't think opposition research wouldn't bring this out.
He should have had a press conference months ago about these settlements.
His judgment is not good, as of now.
It's despicable. And with a black man, it apparently has to revolve around sex.
two sources (UNNAMED) have now confirmed to PJ Media that a female employee (UNNAMED)
Yeah, I’m convinced.
This is digusting..from the media, from the right and the left. Name the damned woman, get it out in the open and then let the chips fall where they may.
They have been sitting on the pot way too long.
There has to be a way to ID this woman. IIRC she was a grad of an Ivy League college and has also worked in various federal positions. She was in her mid 20’s.
It is not much to go on, but it is a start.
If anyone has info that might help, please freepmail.
All Info Confidential, of course.
Cheated? What makes you think that it isn't an open marriage? In any case, that is a personal matter between them IMHO.
Reasons of discretion? This little gold digger who threw false allegations at Cain gets to tell her story without identification? Since when are they so worried about discretion when they let an unproven attack out on the leading GOP candidate for president? The White House in cahoots with the company who is Perry’s consultant firm? Makes sense to me. This is definitely, as I said in the very beginning, a Clarence Thomas repeat! Never happened!
Period! She is in this one for the money, too
k and I’ll bet it is an irresistable amount! This is why po0litics stinks! End of story!
I took the couch.
Damn... I guess this means I can never run of office. (/blatantly made up story)
"I was hoping to stay out of this..."
If the two sources know what happened in that apartment, then they must have been there to witness it. In which case, Cain was never alone with the woman. Otherwise, how do the sources know what took place? Oh wait, the woman must have told them! Which would make them two impeccable witnesses, indeed.
“Afterwards, Mr. Cain allegedly took the woman by taxi to his apartment, where she spent the night and woke up in his bed”
Where was Cain? Had he just offered her a place to sleep and then gone home?
People are saying he said inappropriate things to women...like what?
Why does everything have to be vague or couched?
It’s like the woman with cleavage that becomes outraged when a man stares at her boobs.
Hi...frankly I don’t care where this goes...it’s all a diversion and the media’s latest scandal to feed the public with.....next...and moving on.
I’d be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for bedding a subordinate, but cheating on his wife? Not so much...
More anonymous “sources”. No reason for the two “sources” in this article to remain anonymous either.
“Name the damned woman, get it out in the open and then let the chips fall where they may.”
“I want to know who she is, her background and her political affiliations and associations. To whom is she connected?”
Yes, I too want these sources vetted. I want to know whats in their past.
They continue to want to hide behind their allegations. They know they will be scrutinized.
Sometimes it’s better/cheaper/easier to simply pay the extortionists to go away.
I agree. And I do not see anything holding Cain back now from telling his side of the story; now that this is in the open. I don't know what he can say at this point, though, unless to say that this is all lies. It certainly seems like more than making someone "uncomfortable".
Yeah, we all know what Clinton and Teddy and Bawny Fwank did; but they're dems and get a free pass. It's not fair; but it is what it is.
I see an enormous fork approaching from space heading straight for Cain.
Regardless of whether this is true or not, he’s done.
Unlike the Thomas accusations, this is actual physical contact. And if it actually happened but was consensual, he cheated on a wife he’d been married to for decades.
I know people will scream bloody murder about “double standards” but you have to face the reality that someone who makes a big deal about being religious and moral is going to be hurt by something like this infinitely more than a politician who doesn’t.
People can argue that his true believers in the primaries will consider it false, but this absolutely kills him with independents (especially women) in the general election.
If this happened as claimed, why would Cain be asking that his accuser be released from the confidentiality agreement? Do you really think he would want this to be publicized?
Of course, it might be just a ploy: Cain may think his "ace in the hole" is that his accuser will never go public.
But, I think it's just as likely that this story was manufactured by someone with an axe to grind. These "witnesses" are remaining anonymous, too. Has anyone bothered to confirm they are who they claim?
But when she awoke, did she have her clothes on?
I agree, but I don't want to hear shit from the media or the left about this.
Taking advantage of Monica Lewinsky was no big deal to them, so why should this be?
Where were these people when he last ran for political office?
We're talking political realities here, not my personal opinion. If it turns out Cain basically cheated on is wife (regardless of whether there was sexual harassment involved) he is finished within the Republican party this cycle. In the Democrat party he could probably recover, but not in the GOP. Cain could do the therapy thing and no doubt come back as a political commentator somewhere, but for this election cycle if it turned out he cheated on his wife his support amongst the conservative base would collapse overnight.
If, IF..he took a young female staffer back to his apartment, that's incrfedibly stupid judgement..
She “Woke up in his bed?”
Sounds like Herman got laid.
Good for him.
Now, if we can just boot the Malicious Moslem from the Oval Office, Herman can start his new job.
What happened to the ‘my wife is this tall’ story, complete with non-sexual yet ‘threatening’ hand gestures??
Shallow thinking there. Spoken like one of those creeps who loves to latch onto the worst in order to feel better about himself. Man of play dough!
“Where were these people when he last ran for political office?”
Wow. Very good question.
Yeah, I'm sure all the tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars she got were terribly unsettling. Wake up people. The majority of accusations of "sexual harassment" are invented by liberals in order to enrich their trial lawyer friends. Their is indeed true indecency, but liberal politicans commit indecency all the time, usually to the praise of the media. Bill Clinton is a rapist, for goodness sake.
The one factual report I heard was that Cain said to one woman, "Darling, would you doctor my tea for me?" Since southerners call just about everyone darling, and they like lemon and lots of sugar in their tea, I am not sure how this constituted sexual harassment. Yet again another example of the liberal media and the Republican establishment using different standards for conservatives than for liberals.
Im sorry, if this has been previously documented, and if it is true like that, then Cain is done. I dont care of Clinton got away with it, I have higher standards.
Primary objective of the Democratic left and RINOs, with full cooperation of the MSM is to take Cain down at any cost. This whole saga makes me sick to my stomach and I am quickly losing heart over far too many things going on in America. I don’t know the place anymore.
Not so fast! I have two sources who confirm to me that the two sources for this article do not exist. And my two sources are no less fictitious than their two sources.
I don’t know. She did when she came out for breakfast/brunch. (/still blatantly made up story for illustrative purposes only)
So that should excuse it and we should all over look it because Clinton got away with it?
Almost 3,000 people paid with their lives for Clinton and his constant sexual harassment juggling act. Never again! Who cares what party they are in.
Here’s the problem: the article never says he had sex with her. It’s worded in a way to make you draw that conclusion, but they are weasel words.
Did he live there with his wife or have some second residence? Perhaps he wanted to make sure she had somewhere to crash after a night of drinking. “His bed” can mean anything—a spare room, etc. She isn’t claiming he touched her. And she didn’t say he was with her when she woke up.
My wife always tells me women are worse than men. A man will give you a black eye. A woman will ruin you.
If its true, Cain is finished and we can forget about having an actual conservative in the White House come 2012.
This allegation would have been in the initial story if it was even alleged; not more than a week later.
If true, Cain would have been forced to resign and Amy settlement would have been for much, much more money.
This story is falling apart and this IA just a desperate attempt to keep it going.
If someone accused me of this; I would never “pay them to go away” if it was false.
I would go at them full force and take them on. I would care less what it cost.
If you are innocent, but pay someone off; it would always come back to you.
Take the ba$tards on for making something up would be the way to go.
I’m waiting it out. If everything she says is true, I’ll still vote for him, but I’m anxious to see where this goes.