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Source disputes account of Cain impropriety at Va. dinner
CBS ^ | 3 Nov 2011 | Jan Crawford

Posted on 11/03/2011 1:42:26 PM PDT by Jay777

A Republican source who was at the dinner in which pollster Chris Wilson says Herman Cain sexually harassed a young staffer is contradicting the account, telling CBS News he never saw Cain sexually harass anyone that night, although he does remember Cain drinking.

"I did not see a lech," the source said.

Wilson, who was doing polling for the Restaurant Association during Cain's tenure, told an Oklahoma radio station yesterday: "This all occurred at a restaurant in Crystal City [Virginia] and everybody was very aware of it. And so it is, it was only a matter of time because so many people were aware of what took place, so many people were aware of her situation, the fact that she left after this, that it was, it was a-everybody knew with the campaign that this would eventually come up.

But the source said he "didn't remember (Cain) doing anything" at the dinner, which he said was at a Ruth Chris' steakhouse in Crystal City, Virginia. The source said Cain "may have been a little drunk," but he didn't see anything inappropriate--and added that he never heard anyone discuss anything inappropriate that may have occurred. He said about a half dozen people were there.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cain; cainscandals; herbcain; hermancain; sexualharassment
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Another anonymous source...I guess both sides can play that game.
1 posted on 11/03/2011 1:42:27 PM PDT by Jay777
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To: Jay777
Somebody's lying.
2 posted on 11/03/2011 1:47:09 PM PDT by McGruff (Hold the House, take the Senate.)
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To: Jay777
in which pollster Chris Wilson says Herman Cain sexually harassed a young staffer is contradicting the account, telling CBS News he never saw Cain sexually harass anyone that night

LOL, Wilson is taking BOTH sides!?

3 posted on 11/03/2011 1:48:32 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Jay777

bump; wish they would go on record


4 posted on 11/03/2011 1:49:00 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: McGruff

I can’t believe this second source never went to the men’s room or whatever. And if it is the same night that the woman supposedly ended up in Cain’s apartment, the group was said to have split into two at some point.


5 posted on 11/03/2011 1:49:25 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Jay777

If he didn’t drop his draws and tell her to kiss it he’s good to go....


6 posted on 11/03/2011 1:50:32 PM PDT by Recon Dad ("The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always win and cheat if necessary.")
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To: Jay777

It’s a vicious game these days.. things change, things stay the same..


7 posted on 11/03/2011 1:50:35 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: 9YearLurker
And if it is the same night that the woman supposedly ended up in Cain’s apartment, the group was said to have split into two at some point.

This is either different nights, or someone is lying or misremembered.

The sources for the story on PJMedia (where she allegedly woke up in Cain's apartment) say that they were at a different restaurant: Ciao Baby Cucina. But, that's in downtown DC, not VA.

8 posted on 11/03/2011 1:53:06 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Recon Dad

Ppppfffff ... even if he did ...


9 posted on 11/03/2011 1:54:07 PM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: 9YearLurker

Not the same event. Dang!!! Wilson was not around when the woman was seperated, he said he did not know who she was. But we do know Wilson is currently on Perry’s payroll, and has an office in Austin, texas.


10 posted on 11/03/2011 1:54:41 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: GeronL

Mrs. Butterworth just anonymously reported that Cain asked how tall Molly Mcbutter was and Betty Crocker got jealous.


11 posted on 11/03/2011 1:56:51 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Lonewolf

ping


12 posted on 11/03/2011 2:00:11 PM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick, who needs to pound the fiction flackers back into the Stone Age.)
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To: McGruff

Someone is racist! I’m just sayin because that is exactly what they would be saying if this were 0bama...and we all know it would never be 0bama because the media wouldn’t touch it with a 10 foot pole. So basically its not okay to be racist to the half black guy but to the real black guy....no race card applies.


13 posted on 11/03/2011 2:00:16 PM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: McGruff

Amen, and now they’ve changed the name of the restaurant. There is a first person witness to B.O. sitting in the back seat of a limo and getting serviced, orally, by the witness while doing a line of coke (the powered kind). This first person witness came forward, named himself, made himself availabe for interviews, and couldn’t get 2 minutes of coverage from the network suits, but look what they’re doing to Cain with a bunch of “un-named sources”. This whole thing makes me so sick that I don’t even care if he did it or not. He’s gonna get my support, all the way.


14 posted on 11/03/2011 2:01:15 PM PDT by jstaff
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To: Jay777

My gut tells me go with Cain on this. Something about this whole mess screams set-up and/or much ado about nothing.


15 posted on 11/03/2011 2:02:36 PM PDT by CitizenReporter
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To: Jay777; GeronL

Isn’t Wilson a Romney guy?


16 posted on 11/03/2011 2:03:19 PM PDT by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: org.whodat

“Can’t remember” from a dinner 12 years ago is not really a strong defense.


17 posted on 11/03/2011 2:04:43 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

One night in the 1990s at a Red Lobster Restaurant, Mitt Romney exited the men’s room without washing his hands. OMG!


18 posted on 11/03/2011 2:06:38 PM PDT by PALIN SMITH (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: 9YearLurker

If he was drunk, then yes he was. But, you seem to assume that Cain is guilty...why is that? I think I saw you harass someone at a restaurant once...prove otherwise. And, I don’t know who you are is really a weak/predictable defense.


19 posted on 11/03/2011 2:07:50 PM PDT by chilepup
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To: McGruff

Weak. This is not much of a boost to the Cain side. Wilson had said someone finally told Cain to cool it, that it was embarrassing.

I think we are going to discover why Herb likes to make it clear that he drinks only wine now. After three short years as corporate hound and after lifting the company of 80 grand to the two girls and with now reportedly a third talking, Cain needs to sober up and stick with his wine.

Who would hire him with the baggage? This is why he went into the padded room with a microphone to do radio. I always thought that was a weird transition from the board roomm to the sound room.


20 posted on 11/03/2011 2:08:32 PM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick, who needs to pound the fiction flackers back into the Stone Age.)
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To: Boardwalk

The racist liberal media had no problem with a President who was an actual rapist and serial sexual harasser: Juana Broderick, Katleen Wiley, Paula Jones, Sally Purdue, etc. etc.

Wash Compose excerpt circa 1998: “And when the sexual behavior is consensual, typically between older, powerful men and beautiful, young subordinate females, married or unmarried, men are often accorded boasting rights, not shame or humiliation. They are rarely fired.......The management consultant said board members typically tell her they knew it was happening but decided it was private behavior — “none of their business.”.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/punishment091698.htm


21 posted on 11/03/2011 2:10:44 PM PDT by oldernittany (Juanita Broderick, Juanita Broderick, Juanita Broderick!)
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To: 11th Commandment

No, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2801469/posts


22 posted on 11/03/2011 2:11:26 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Jay777
a little drunk

Such a good friend!

ML/NJ

23 posted on 11/03/2011 2:12:06 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: 9YearLurker
IF everyone can't see thru this sleazy attack they are blind.

Cain announced on May 21, 2011 (OVER 5 MONTHS AGO)

Stop and think about it: WHY are all these "so-called" accusations coming out ONLY NOW; now that he has shot in to the lead?

This stinks to high heaven!!!

24 posted on 11/03/2011 2:13:01 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: 9YearLurker
You are the one that has the memory problem, wilson says he does not know who the woman was, he could hardly now say he saw her at a dinner.
25 posted on 11/03/2011 2:13:29 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: RitaOK

80K is still a hell of a lot less than the 100s of millions boy perry funneled to his Texas cronies.


26 posted on 11/03/2011 2:14:35 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( The Prudential Governor... Have you bought your piece of the Rick)
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To: PALIN SMITH
Did he zip with his right hand or with his left hand.
27 posted on 11/03/2011 2:15:25 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: 9YearLurker

Is that sarcasm or stupidity?


28 posted on 11/03/2011 2:17:49 PM PDT by Seeking the truth
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To: McGruff

>Somebody’s lying.<

And it ain’t Cain!

Herman Cain was on Hannity a while ago. And he was great! Now Hannity is replaying his montage of the ugly things said about Mr.Cain! Hannity is a Romneybopt.


29 posted on 11/03/2011 2:19:05 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( I like Herman Cain)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Of course that’s why it’s coming out now. And it’s from some configuration of the Romney/Perry camp (they’re not as separate as the pretend to be).

But the guy had two sexual harassment settlements against him that long predated this race, and since they were widely enough known about in DC, they were bound to come out once he became a threat.

That doesn’t mean his changing his story every three hours about it is acceptable.


30 posted on 11/03/2011 2:19:17 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

“But the guy had two sexual harassment settlements against him that long predated this race”

Sexual harassment settlements? Where. Show me the court documents.

There are none. Even this woman’s attorney has admitted he actually has no paperwork (which in the legal profession is preposterous). The only thing that has been presented is a severance package.


31 posted on 11/03/2011 2:25:34 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Pray for Herman Cain)
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To: 11th Commandment
“Isn’t Wilson a Romney guy” ? I heard he was a palin guy ., but a woman on the bus said he was a newt guy . Hmm , whatever are we to believe ?
32 posted on 11/03/2011 2:29:39 PM PDT by fantom (,)
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To: Jay777

I sent Herman Cain another $100 today. And I plan to keep donating to his campaign. If you want to do the same, his mailing address is:

Herman Cain, Inc.
Friends of Herman Cain, Inc.
P.O. Box 2158
Stockbridge, Georgia 30281

Thank you!


33 posted on 11/03/2011 2:30:49 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( I like Herman Cain)
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To: Jay777

Does Mr Cain drink?


34 posted on 11/03/2011 2:34:56 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR FLIPPIN BUST)
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To: Paperdoll

Hannity is fair to most of the candidates and I believe he supports Cain over both Perry and Romney. The only one he hasn’t had on his show as far as I know is Perry.

By the way, he plays that montage to shame the media, not because he takes the comments seriously. That’s pretty basic.


35 posted on 11/03/2011 2:35:32 PM PDT by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

” 80K is still a hell of a lot less than the 100s of millions boy perry funneled to his Texas cronies. “ <<<<

Hey, if money talks and makes more Texas Republicans walk, I’ll take a funnel of millions to be a good thing.

Now you go. Make lemonade out of two settlements and a third girl complaining, all this in three years because of your guy. With witnesses. You go now.


36 posted on 11/03/2011 2:35:46 PM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick, who needs to pound the fiction flackers back into the Stone Age.)
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To: org.whodat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEjl5iaSG6I


37 posted on 11/03/2011 2:35:54 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: justsaynomore

He’s admitted to at least one, and the second one sounds confirmed now too. These weren’t settled in court, they were settled out of court in lieu of a lawsuit being filed.


38 posted on 11/03/2011 2:38:01 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: RitaOK

So you are ok with the fact that boy perry is owned by a hand full of rich Texan?


39 posted on 11/03/2011 2:39:46 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( The Prudential Governor... Have you bought your piece of the Rick)
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To: Jay777
I don't know how many people agree with me, but anyone who shouts "sexual harassment" is right up there with the fake "racist" drones.

This doesn’t even register in my consideration of Herman Cain as President of the United States. He has consistently espoused conservative principles, and that’s all that matters to me, as a voter.

The rest of this is just holier than thou liberals (D & R) who have been impotent at bringing him down by any other means, and I’m not falling for it.

40 posted on 11/03/2011 2:40:44 PM PDT by Conservative_Rob
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To: Recon Dad

It’s all left to interpretation...What one person says the other is thinking something off center, which in turn makes that person feel uncomfortable. I highly doubt any of this bs from these women are substantiated.


41 posted on 11/03/2011 2:41:53 PM PDT by Amigo04
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To: RitaOK
are you in Oklahoma Rita??

if so GOOD...stay there..

42 posted on 11/03/2011 2:47:28 PM PDT by haircutter
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To: Jay777

I wondered why Wilson would not name the “at least three other people” who were there. Now we know why. Because they would not be able to corroborate his story.


43 posted on 11/03/2011 2:49:02 PM PDT by kevao
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To: 9YearLurker

A “severance pay” settlement or agreement.

Not a “sexual harassment”, legal court case, settlement.

I’m not saying one doesn’t exist, but right now we don’t know that, and you do not need to play loose and hard with the facts.


44 posted on 11/03/2011 2:56:22 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Pray for Herman Cain)
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To: RitaOK
settlements are made every day in the business world...its cheaper than fighting a bunch of slutty women...and they are nasty story tellers and dreamers...

as for a third woman...she is totally immaterial, she didn't file any proof of anything so she can ‘cry a river’ now and move on...

and your right Rita MONEY TALKS...WHO IS PAYING YOU??????????

45 posted on 11/03/2011 2:56:40 PM PDT by haircutter
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To: Paperdoll

I heard Cain on Hannity. I like Cain and want to believe him, and for this all to blow over, but he’s getting too much into the nitty-gritty of all this. He has to defend himself, but it doesn’t look presidential to be blaming the Perry camp. He needs to stop talking, IMHO.


46 posted on 11/03/2011 2:57:50 PM PDT by Hothouse Flower
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To: haircutter

” are you in Oklahoma Rita??
if so GOOD...stay there.. “ <<<<<

Now you have some real depth, I see.


47 posted on 11/03/2011 2:58:07 PM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick, who needs to pound the fiction flackers back into the Stone Age.)
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To: RitaOK

Herb? Who is Herb? I’m thinking you’ve got your personalities a little mixed up there.


48 posted on 11/03/2011 2:58:21 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: GeronL
LOL, Wilson is taking BOTH sides!?

No, another anonymous source (mentioned at the beginning of the sentence you truncated) is contradicting Wilson.

49 posted on 11/03/2011 2:59:13 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Of the declared candidates: (1) Perry, (2) Cain. I'll happily vote for either if he's the nominee.)
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To: haircutter

settlements are made every day in the business world...its cheaper than fighting a bunch of slutty women...and they are nasty story tellers and dreamers...
as for a third woman...she is totally immaterial, she didn’t file any proof of anything so she can ‘cry a river’ now and move on... and your right Rita MONEY TALKS...WHO IS PAYING YOU??????????

Hysteric much?


50 posted on 11/03/2011 2:59:22 PM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick, who needs to pound the fiction flackers back into the Stone Age.)
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