Skip to comments.Woman Said to Have Felt Hostility at Work After Complaining About Cain
Posted on 11/04/2011 3:29:50 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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Right, because everybody knows that the best way for a man to cheat on his wife is to invite her back to his place in front of a bunch of people.
So she was paranoid? Feeling guilty? And he’s to blame?
I still call BS - this whole thing stinks to high hell.
Unless he Lewinski'd her or others, and maybe not even then, I'm supporting Cain on this. The do gooder MSM is trying to peel the tradionally Conservative GOP women from his voting block - they discredit Conservative women, they aren't as ignorant and naive as Liberal women. Most see this for what it is - a smear job.
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According to anonymous sources? Are there no editors anymore? Regardless of what happened, I hope Cain sues the heck out of all involved.
Back then it was a man's right to ask; a woman's right to say "No." And it would end there.
The America we were, is the America we are no longer. It is a major part of why we are failing. Women with an aggrieved victim mentality, have done a lot to destroy social relations just to get attention. Pray for the aggrieved. Pray more for America.
When Herman Cain approaches one-half of the “Bill Clinton” standard, they can call me. Until then the P.C. whores can stuff it.
I would not want to be one of these women when their lives are put under a microscope.
His handling of the situation is troubling to me - Especially lashing out at others - pointing fingers at others, even naming others as the source of the rumors - without definitive proof.
What makes that any different than what is being done to him?
I would hope we get a president this time who can take pressure, no matter how undue, in a more stable manner because this incidence is NOTHING compared to what a President will be subjected to.
I was under the impression that she left the NRA shortly after this incident. Did she have time to experience hostility in the workpace?
Mr. Anonymous Source needs to call a group meeting with his various media outlets. They need to get on the same page.
This is starting to get that air about it like when the teacher would whisper a phrase to the student sitting in the first seat in a classroom. Then each had to whisper the same to the next until it got all the way around the room. Remember how much the two differed and was never the same?
I’ve watched these events both in the military world and commercial world. Typically, the HR guys want to just pay the person off real quick and dump them out the front door. Usually $40k does the job and you save a bit over having to pay lawyers to fight this stuff out in court.
In the military...they can’t pay anyone off....so you end up with some fix-it solution where the bad guy is sent off to some social rehab deal and gets some kind of paperwork in his file that indicates he shouldn’t supervise women.
In most cases, the woman who started the episode ends up with some paranoid feeling because half the office simply doesn’t believe her story.
“Right, because everybody knows that the best way for a man to cheat on his wife is to invite her back to his place in front of a bunch of people. “
Liberals do it all the time
“Back then it was a man’s right to ask; a woman’s right to say “No.” And it would end there.”
I recently learned at a mandatory company-wide sexual harassment rules training - large company - to my surprize, that according to our HR people themselves, it is ok for a man to ask, and a woman to say no.
The thing is, it’s ok to ask, just about one time. And of course one cannot be lewd about it.
But it is in fact ok to ask. At least that’s what was said. I was flabbergasted.
Maybe it’s just our company, but I don’t think it’s likely HR is going rogue about something that basic.
He has said he knows how to surround himself with the best. (paraphrased). In that sense, it is an opportunity for us to see if that is true.
Is it not time to stop punishing men for being, well, men? Thanks to feminism, women want to be treated like men, except that they like to keep their power over men by punishing them for being men. What a world we live in today!
:: crossed over into propositions that she leave with him ::
And, who propositioned whom, I ask?
I think that if someone in my office was falsely accusing a good man of bad acts, I would keep my distance from that person and it would be hard to hide my disgust of them.
Of course, those who complain about humor in the workplace, or see a sex pervert behind every tree, are not well-recieved for fear of Lawsuits....it happens in EVERY company.
Women who think they can come to work to find harassment, and not be avoided by others, now can say "a hostile work environment"....
It's sad, this is what workplaces become when Lawyers and pseudo-"Offended" Claims are made.
If there anything like the employee parties I've been to there was probably a lot of salty talk going on, and a lot of it coming from women. At least was like that when I was going to office parties. Now? Who knows. Depends on the company, I guess.
But the point is, if he did do something like that, and if he was serious about it, there would be no hiding it and the payoff would not be a paltry 35,000 severance pay. Lawyers would have been circling that gal, dreaming about six figure contingency payouts.
But back on the subject of witnesses, there has been (I saw it this morning) a witness to that party (a Republican so the MSM will ignore him), who said he was there and saw nothing out of line or out of the ordinary.
I think I trust him more.
Mr. Anonymous Source can go pound sand.
Hmmm. The “workplace turned hostile”.
Well, once you demonstrate that you are the type of person who would turn innocent activity into a lawsuit, who the heck would want to have anything to do with you?
“complained that the workplace turned hostile after she alleged that he made advances toward her during a work-related outing, several people familiar with her account at the time said in interviews. “
Maybe her coworkers didn’t like LIARS.
How about they address the fact that the Perry Arizona State Coordinator was tweeting about the smear before the story broke in Politico??
How about they address the fact that the very 1st “independent” source to rush to the media and add more hearsay to the accusation was Perry's pollster Wilson?
Rather then continue to dream up new smears to direct at Cain, how about the Perry camp address their campaigns actions in helping spread the original smear?
Any sentence that starts, “Woman said to have felt ...” really doesn’t need to go on.
Eve. If true, SO? We don’t have a perfect candidate. We have to take the guy we have. So let’s stop worrying about what happened in a restaurant a decade ago. It isn’t ideal but there aren’t any choirboys running. Put down your hand, mitt.
You know what else is a hostile work environment? Going back to the office after you sleep with the boss and everyone knows it. Not saying that happened, but I’m sure walking around with everyone snickering behind you can’t be fun...
I’m sorry but with the first drink all bets are off. It is not a “work place” sexual harassment event at all.
You go drinking with the crew then be prepared for things to get out of hand.
Was the woman attempting to advance her career.
There are a number of female physicians who got past admissions committees on their back.
hurt feelings? changed attitudes? quick, call that boring empath lady from Star Trek! (not the good Star Trek)
They are SO desperate. This concerns them to no end. You have the prime reason WHY.
She was entirely too aggressive. Lord only knows what John was up to.
My guess is that this woman tends to end up feeling a lot of hostility wherever she goes. I’d be interested to see the pattern of her workplace history. I’m willing to bet she’s a serial offendee / professional victim.
The advances were said to have taken place during a festive night in which Mr. Cain and several younger staff members drank until late in the evening, and his flirty banter with the woman crossed over into propositions that she leave with him, these people said, speaking in separate interviews and on the condition of anonymity.
One person with direct knowledge of her account at the time said that the woman roughly two decades Mr. Cains junior and serving in a lower-level job rebuffed him but that he continued to make advances. She was uncomfortable, and it was inappropriate from the start, this person said. He was persistent
She rebuffed him. No where does it say she went home with him. But according to PJM:
According to the female source, Mr. Cain and the woman had been with a large group for a long evening of food and drink at the Ciao Baby Cucina, a restaurant near NRA headquarters in downtown Washington, D.C. This was a normal routine, as the trade association worked with the food and beverage industry. Afterwards, Mr. Cain allegedly took the woman by taxi to his apartment, where she spent the night and woke up.
Since this has not had the desired affect, someone wants the word "rape" to be part of the story.
I agree with you:
Socializing off the premises is not work-related.
Drinking alcohol is not in the job description.
It takes at least two people to participate in conversations that are personal, off-color and inappropriate. If you have nothing to say and don’t want to listen - LEAVE!
I’m beginning to believe she thought she had a shot at the boss and he turned her down. That would be the humiliation!
affect = effect.
Hate when that happens.
I remember that game—it was called “Telephone”— we would all laugh when the last listener got to say what they’d heard because it was always so far off the mark.
I’ve been in environments that were fun and had a lot of joking around and went out together after work. Then someone who’s part of our group (we think) goes to HR (doesn’t discuss with us first) because someone else said something that offended them. Then we all get to talk to HR. And the manager has to start enforcing HR rules to the letter. And we don’t have as much fun at work. Productivity seems to go down as there’s less incentive for everyone to stay late, get pizza, and have fun as we someone finish a task. And we don’t invite the person who started the problems when we go out after work. I wouldn’t call it hostility, but the person who caused it certainly isn’t at the top of everyone’s list and isn’t someone we’re going out of our way to help any more.
Anyone remember how the Clinton women were treated? As vile criminals. On TV every day and straight from the White House!
bvw’s American Prosperity Plan:
Ban HR departments and tar and post-it note all HR people. Tie them to their ergonomic desk chairs and roll them out onto the sidewalk. Give them a surplus OWS tent as severance.
This could get the NYT fiction award - maybe Pulitzer.
“He is not getting the best advice.”
He should call Sarah. She became most adept at dealing with the scummy media.
a more stable manner??? you mean like our good friend Mittens????
The issue that concerns me is what concerned me in 08’ with the Democrats. They had Republican derangement syndrome and ignored the facts. This is why we have Obama. Those same voters now have remorse. This is exactly what Republicans are demonstrating with Cain. Let’s not ignore the warning signs. Research this man. Do not try to prove that the Republicans are not racists once again. Elect the candidate that is not a flip flopper, does what he says he will do and has a clear track record. Research all candidates and all angles. Do this and you will find the candidate that sits right with the American people.
Name names, dammit.
So much for ethics in journalism...
maybe cuz she was a professional liar and opportunist system-milker? Idunno. I don’t have any details. Just guessing.