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Correcting the ‘fairy tale’: A SEAL’s account of how Osama bin Laden really died
The Daily Caller ^ | November 7, 2011 | Vince Coglianese

Posted on 11/07/2011 6:54:04 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative

Forget whatever you think you know about the night Osama bin Laden was killed. According to a former Navy SEAL who claims to have the inside track, the mangled tales told of that historic night have only now been corrected.

“It became obvious in the weeks evolving after the mission that the story that was getting put out there was not only untrue, but it was a really ugly farce of what did happen,” said Chuck Pfarrer, author of Seal Target Geronimo: The Inside Story of the Mission to Kill Osama Bin Laden.

In an extensive interview with The Daily Caller, Pfarrer gave a detailed account of why he believes the record needed to be corrected, and why he set out to share the personal stories of the warriors who penetrated bin Laden’s long-secret compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan.

In August the New Yorker delivered a riveting blow-by-blow of the SEALs’ May 1, 2011 raid on bin Laden’s hideaway. In that account, later reported to lack contributions from the SEALs involved, readers are taken through a mission that began with a top-secret helicopter crashing and led to a bottom-up assault of the Abbottabad compound.

Freelancer Nicholas Schmidle wrote that the SEALs had shot and blasted their way up floor-by-floor, finally cornering the bewildered Al-Qaida leader:

“The Al Qaeda chief, who was wearing a tan shalwar kameez and a prayer cap on his head, froze; he was unarmed. ‘There was never any question of detaining or capturing him—it wasn’t a split-second decision. No one wanted detainees,’ the special-operations officer told me. (The Administration maintains that had bin Laden immediately surrendered he could have been taken alive.) Nine years, seven months, and twenty days after September 11th, an American was a trigger pull from ending bin Laden’s life. The first round, a 5.56-mm. bullet, struck bin Laden in the chest. As he fell backward, the SEAL fired a second round into his head, just above his left eye.”

Chuck Pfarrer rejects almost all of that story.

“The version of the 45-minute firefight, and the ground-up assault, and the cold-blooded murder on the third floor — that wasn’t the mission,” Pfarrer told TheDC.

“I had to try and figure out, well, look: Why is this story not what I’m hearing? Why is it so off and how is it so off?” he recounted. “One of the things I sort of determined was, OK, somebody was told ‘one of the insertion helicopters crashed.’ OK, well that got muddled to ‘a helicopter crashed on insertion.’”

The helicopters, called “Stealth Hawks,” are inconspicuous machines concealing cutting-edge technology. They entered the compound as planned, with “Razor 1″ disembarking its team of SEALs on the roof of the compound — not on the ground level. There was no crash landing. That wouldn’t occur until after bin Laden was dead.

Meanwhile, “Razor 2″ took up a hovering position so that its on-board snipers, some of whom had also participated in the sea rescue of Maersk Alabama captain Richard Phillips, had a clear view of anyone fleeing the compound.

The SEALs then dropped down from the roof, immediately penetrated the third floor, and hastily encountered bin Laden in his room. He was not standing still.

“He dived across the king-size bed to get at the AKSU rifle he kept by the headboard,” wrote Pfarrer in his book. It was at that moment, a mere 90 seconds after the SEALs first set foot on the roof, that two American bullets shattered bin Laden’s chest and head, killing a man who sought violence to the very end.

President Obama stepped up to a podium in the East Room of the White House that night to announce bin Laden’s death. That rapid announcement, explained Pfarrer, posed a major threat to U.S. national security.

“There was a choice that night,” Pfarrer told TheDC. “There was a choice to keep the mission secret.” America, Pfarrer explained, could have left things alone for “weeks or months … even though there was evidence left on the ground there … and use the intelligence and finish off al-Qaida.”

But Obama’s announcement, he said, “rendered moot all of the intelligence that was gathered from the nexus of al-Qaida. The computer drives, the hard drives, the videocasettes, the CDs, the thumb drives, everything. Before that could even be looked through, the political decision was made to take credit for the operation.”

And in the days that followed, as politicians sought to thrust their identities into the details of the bin Laden kill, the tale began to grow out of control, said Pfarrer.

“The president made a statement, and as far as that goes, that was fine, that was the mission statement,” he explained. “But, soon after … politicians began leaking information from every orifice. And it was like a game of Chinese telephone. These guys didn’t know what they were talking about. Very few of them had even seen the video feed.”

Pfarrer suggests that much of the misinformation was likely born out of operational ignorance, even among those sitting in the White House.

“One of the things that happened was that there were only a handful of people who know about this mission,” he said. “On the civilian side, there were only a handful of people in the situation room who were watching the drone feed. They were looking at the roof of a building taken from a rotating aircraft at 35,000 feet.”

“None of those guys, not a single one of them, had a background in special operations, with the exception of General Webb who was sitting there running a laptop,” Pfarrer went on. “No one knew or could even imagine what was going on inside the building. They didn’t know.”

“There was an alternative feed going to CIA headquarters where Leon Panetta sat there with the communications brevity codes [a guide sheet for the mission's radio lingo] in his lap and a SEAL off-screen by his side to be able to tell him what was going on,” he said. “But these guys, none of them, really knew what they were looking at.”

As the media raised more questions, officials gave more answers.

Whether or not bin Laden resisted ultimately developed into a barrage of murky official and unofficial explanations in the days following. And statements from as high as then-CIA Director Leon Panetta offered confirmation that the endeavor was a “kill mission.”

Pfarrer dismisses that assertion.

“An order to go in and murder someone in their house is not a lawful order,” explained Pfarrer, who maintains that bin Laden would have been captured had he surrendered. “Unlike the Germans in World War II, if you’re a petty officer, a chief petty officer, a naval officer, and you’re giving an order to murder somebody, that’s an unlawful order.”

Pfarrer also suggests some of the emerging claims were simply self-aggrandizing “fairy tales.”

“The story they tried to tell — it’s preposterous. And the CIA tried to jump in. About mid-June the CIA tried to jump into the car and drive the victory lap. There’s this whole stuff about the CIA guy joining the operation, the gallant interpreter — he couldn’t even fast rope!” exclaimed Pfarrer, referring to a technique for descending from an airborne helicopter.

“There’s this fairy tale about him walking out of the compound during the operation to tell crowds of Pakistanis to go home and everything’s OK.”

Pfarrer tried to put this in perspective: “Do you mean that during the middle of this military operation at night, with hovering helicopters over this odd house in this neighborhood, that people came out of their houses to ask what’s going on, instead of [remaining] huddled in their basement?”

“And I think that there were so many of these leaks that were incorrect, the administration couldn’t walk them all back,” Pfarrer explained. “And so, in the middle of May, they froze everything.”

It was that freeze-out that left Chuck Pfarrer with nowhere to turn for the real story but the SEALs themselves.

Seal Target Geronimo delivers an account of the night Osama bin Laden died with a level of detail unlike anything previously reported. Pfarrer bills the story as “absolutely factual.”

“That’s the other thing. I’m prepared for the White House to say, you know, ‘this is full of inaccuracies,’ et cetera,” offered Pfarrer. He told TheDC that in order to protect American interests, his book is “full of names that are made up, and it is full of bases that are not quite where they really should be.”

“But the timeline of my events,” he cautions, “and the manner in which it happened is 100 percent accurate. And they’ll know that.”


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1 posted on 11/07/2011 6:54:06 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Much ado about nothing, until we see the pics and video.


2 posted on 11/07/2011 6:57:23 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Ping for later


3 posted on 11/07/2011 6:57:29 AM PST by Batman11 (Obama's poll numbers are so low the Kenyans are claiming he was born in the USA!)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Could be... The only thing that sounds right about any of the “stories” I’ve heard about it is the placement of the rounds... First shot center mass for a high percentage hit. Second shot to the head in case the target is wearing body armor. Everything else...who knows.


4 posted on 11/07/2011 7:01:24 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
"...According to a former Navy SEAL who claims to have the inside track..."

Trustworthy source. lol

5 posted on 11/07/2011 7:02:10 AM PST by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: Batman11

Well the part about bloviating, uninformed politicians sure sounds accurate..


6 posted on 11/07/2011 7:02:18 AM PST by Col Frank Slade
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Say it ain’t so, B.O.!


7 posted on 11/07/2011 7:03:01 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
According to a former Navy SEAL who claims to have the inside track...

Or, perhaps: According to a person claiming to be a former Navy SEAL who claims to have the inside track...

8 posted on 11/07/2011 7:04:02 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25 percent more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Intelligence harvested on scene must have had value regardless of political abuses.


9 posted on 11/07/2011 7:05:30 AM PST by Broker (Beware of Community Organizer in Chief!)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Gee, politicians acting in their own self interest and not that of the country. Shocking!


10 posted on 11/07/2011 7:05:35 AM PST by Right Wing Puppy
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

A fairy tail with thousands of rounds fired would make a video game while 12 rounds would be boring for he kids.


11 posted on 11/07/2011 7:06:45 AM PST by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

What this regime knows about the military would fit in a thimble - and still have room for an elephant.

It is an alien world to them and they have no desire to reduce their level of ignorance. Therein is the mark of really stupid people. In this case, dangerously stupid people.


12 posted on 11/07/2011 7:07:38 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
Just an FYI:

The author's book is available for pre-order on Amazon.com. It's supposed to be released tomorrow.

So, regardless of whether you believe his account is factual, you should be aware that his first priority is to promote his book.

13 posted on 11/07/2011 7:07:47 AM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
But Obama’s announcement, he said, “rendered moot all of the intelligence that was gathered from the nexus of al-Qaida. The computer drives, the hard drives, the videocasettes, the CDs, the thumb drives, everything. Before that could even be looked through, the political decision was made to take credit for the operation.”

THAT B A S T A R D !......................

14 posted on 11/07/2011 7:10:25 AM PST by Red Badger (Obama's number one economics advisor must be a Magic Eight Ball.................)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Maybe this is why the team themselves, was set up for a hit.


15 posted on 11/07/2011 7:13:39 AM PST by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

“An order to go in and murder someone in their house is not a lawful order,” explained Pfarrer, who maintains that bin Laden would have been captured had he surrendered. “Unlike the Germans in World War II, if you’re a petty officer, a chief petty officer, a naval officer, and you’re giving an order to murder somebody, that’s an unlawful order.”

I almost hate to say it, but this SEAL actually listened, understood and applied the Law of Armed Conflict briefings his JAG gave him. That’s how it ought to work. Well said, and well done.

Colonel, USAFR


16 posted on 11/07/2011 7:13:59 AM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: Sans-Culotte
So is it possible that there was information in that compound that could have helped capture or kill the rest of the vermin in Al Qaeda, but because Barry wanted to brag about it, it rendered much of the information moot or tipped off the bad guys to change locations/plans/tactics?

If so, Obama is in a lot of trouble. Especially if we get hit again.
17 posted on 11/07/2011 7:16:10 AM PST by Apparatchik (If you find yourself in a confusing situation, simply laugh knowingly and walk away - Jim Ignatowski)
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To: WayneS

Lying about being a SEAL to get drinks or get laid is easy, lying about it when you’re a public figure like a book writer is very hard. People on the teams know who has been on the teams and they would scream bloody murder if a non-Seal wrote a book claiming to be one.


18 posted on 11/07/2011 7:17:17 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

“An order to go in and murder someone in their house is not a lawful order,” explained Pfarrer, who maintains that bin Laden would have been captured had he surrendered.”

I thought so all along!! US President ever gave or would give such an order... except JFK when he off’ed Diem and his brother and routinely denied knowing what about the plan.


19 posted on 11/07/2011 7:18:59 AM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

More lies from Obama, go figure.


20 posted on 11/07/2011 7:29:55 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Mr. Silverback

You are correct. My apologies.

In my first reading of the article I somehow missed the fact that the man had written a book .


21 posted on 11/07/2011 7:32:26 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25 percent more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: NTHockey

“’He dived across the king-size bed to get at the AKSU rifle he kept by the headboard,’ wrote Pfarrer in his book.

I’m surprised he didn’t have a fully semi-automatic 50 caliber AK-47 with a 32 clip magazine.

At least this part is accurate. Bin Laden did have an AKSU in several of the videos I have seen. I know because I coveted it on several occasions.


22 posted on 11/07/2011 7:33:16 AM PST by FLAMING DEATH (Are you better off than you were $4 trillion ago?)
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To: Red Badger

But Obama’s announcement, he said, “rendered moot all of the intelligence that was gathered from the nexus of al-Qaida. The computer drives, the hard drives, the videocasettes, the CDs, the thumb drives, everything. Before that could even be looked through, the political decision was made to take credit for the operation.”

THAT B A S T A R D !......................”

Exactly !
In order to get a four point surge in popularity , Zero went public and compromised all the data . The information taken from the leader could have led to the final blow to Al Qaida network, ... foreign and domestic.


23 posted on 11/07/2011 7:42:34 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt ("There is no moderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that’s that” from Mr. Erdogan(of Turkey))
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To: WayneS

No need to apologize. Have a great week.


24 posted on 11/07/2011 7:44:03 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

he forgot to say “Do you feel lucky, punk?”


25 posted on 11/07/2011 8:13:19 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Bump for later read at home


26 posted on 11/07/2011 8:50:07 AM PST by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
Given the extent to which Obama has aided AQ/the Muslim Brotherhood in the ongoing “Arab Spring”, it is doubtful that the raid would have been kept secret from them in any case. Obama’s contacts would have been informed immediately after (or even before) the raid. In fact, AQ might have been the source of the intel on “Osama”. Even if one believes that Osama was still alive to be killed “by Obama”, Osama was old, sick and ineffective. Trading “Osama” for help in taking over several Arab states would have been a good deal for ambitious younger members of AQ.
27 posted on 11/07/2011 9:32:25 AM PST by Ragnar54 (America's enemy: Obama replaced Osama)
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To: Travis McGee
Perhaps of interest.
28 posted on 11/07/2011 11:25:42 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: jagusafr

Agreed. But we have been targeting people with drones and such for some time now.


29 posted on 11/07/2011 11:46:37 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: verity; Joe Brower

I served with Chuck Pfarrer at ST-4. His platoon relieved mine in Beirut in 1983. He went on to serve in ST-6. He’s the real deal. Since he left the Navy he’s been a screenwriter and author. He’s had severe health problems, (cancer related) and I’m happy to hear he’s still alive. What he’s writing is going to be from primary sources. If he writes it, I believe it, within certain limits. (He is trying to sell books.) But rest assured: Chuck Pfarre was a real-deal SEAL from Team Six.


30 posted on 11/07/2011 6:52:07 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks for the affirmation of his reliability.


31 posted on 11/08/2011 5:35:38 AM PST by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: jagusafr

I serve with Chuck Pfarrer at ST-4 in the 80s and vouch for him 100%.


32 posted on 11/08/2011 5:47:51 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: verity

Glad to.


33 posted on 11/08/2011 5:48:13 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

I was a little surprised on F&F this morning that Brian Kilmeade was arguing with him based on conversations with “other people in the know”. To Chuck P’s credit, he didn’t get riled or say what I was saying to the TV along the lines of “you ignorant twit”...

As a former intel/SO/spooky JAG, his answers, explanations and analysis struck me as based on real-world experience and were completely credible.

Colonel, USAFR


34 posted on 11/08/2011 8:30:05 AM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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