Skip to comments.Gloria Allred Press Conference Live Stream
Posted on 11/07/2011 10:55:06 AM PST by reegs
For those interested in watching the press conference live.
Excellent point, but don't you see, that is just one more proof of how carefully crafted this lie is: can't have any of the action taking place in the hotel because she has to avoid any appearance that she was the one making the play or that she would clearly have understood why she was in a hotel room with someone else's husband after a fine dinner. See, if it's Herman's room, everyone can say "well, you knew exactly why he asked and you agreed to go to the room". If it's her room, everyone can say, "you must have invited him there and, if you did, you gave the clear impression that you expected a sexual liaison. In hotel rooms, you have to explain a lot of details about how a man gets so close to you that he can reach up your skirt or pull your head down, without your having allowed him to get into your personal space. In a car, the dynamic is completely different: There is no suggestion that you put yourself in a situation likely to lead to a sexual encounter, there is no suggestion that you arranged the circumstances to provoke a sexual situation and you can explain away in a perfectly plausible manner how the man got close enough to be able to make physical contact in a sexually explicit manner. It's all too perfect. That's what's really wrong with this story: it's so airtight in terms of no possibility of witnesses, no suggestion that she actually made the play, etc. Just too damn perfect to be believed. But in th
The way these are written is very confusing. What does it mean by “Participant”? How does the name along with that identification relate to what’s written about that particular action? Is the name the winner or loser?
Not what he’s saying.
It is impossible to do that and have your other hand on her “genitals”. Unless you are “Mr. Fantastic” and have elasticized genetic structure.
Not only am I going to contribute more money to Mr. Cain, I am going out and gather signatures tomorrow to get him on the KY primary ballot.
The Cain Train can’t be stopped!!
It looks to me like so messed with the wrong girls man, and she got her face slashed with a razor blade.
Allred used the phrase “stimulus package” as a sarcastic put down. She was not quoting the accuser.
I see a face lift, botox, hair extensions, and collagen lip injections. Not that there's anything wrong with that...
Folks, we have a double bimbo eruption...Gloria and Sharon.
Found this funny..one of the posts from her facebook which is not private.
Report/Mark as SpamSharon Bialek
Thank you everyone for your support! This hasn’t been easy but I felt it was the right thing to do.
Share · 33 minutes ago · Arthur Jimenez likes this.
Nick Sgherzi You don’t have my support
24 minutes ago
Mark as spamReport as abuse...Mark as spamSteve Schultz Monica Lewinsky had the dress to prove it after Bill lied under oath.
16 minutes ago
So she was sleeping around and getting pregnant. Not exactly an upstanding citizen.
Wow, that was, like, so four years ago ;-D I was rehired at the company where I worked for 28-1/2 years before I was laid off. So far, so good. Glad to have something in these times. Thanks for asking. How are you doing?
The “action” part took place in DC. See her statement: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-cain-accuser-sharon-bialek-20111107-pdf,0,7686179.htmlpage
Um.. the evidence that is beyond question is a woman was paid a large sum of money to shut up about Cain... now you can spin that as just someone trolling for cash, but that’s a fact.
Fact, Cain said no money was paid out to women.. now this is not true. MOney was paid, he claimed ignorance, which is possible, but as I said if he wants to be president he should have KNOWN this was out there.
Fact Cain, accused another republican of being the leaker of this information, INCORRECTLY.
Cain has not looked for one minute like he’s in control of this situation, hes handled it beyond poorly. He should have known about this and should have had answers ready, he didn’t.
Who knows if any of the rest of these allegations are true or not, but Cain has handled this as an rank amateur, and we already have one of those in the white house IMHO we don’t need another one.
You know that’s harsh....and frankly unbecoming of a supposed Conservative.
Claims her child was fathered by a Mr. West.
No, not that West.
Prepare for something that DIDN”T HAPPEN???
Um... hello. His employer PAID OUT nearly 50,000 to a woman over allegations against him. Had he done his own due dillegence he should have known about this and been prepared to answer about it before even starting his campaign in earnest.
He should have know this was out there, should have known he was going to be questioned about it and should have had an answer for it. He struck out completely on this, missed all three, and then flailed around.
I know. It’s been some time. Doing fine and glad to hear it worked out for you. I don’t spend as much time on the DUmmie threads anymore. They’re not the same for some reason. And don’t get anywhere near the hits as they did back then.
Good to hear from you again. Take care.
The $64,000 question is, who is paying this skank and how much?
The car was parked. The story is full of lies, but he wouldn’t need 3 arms if it was true. Allred really prepped this gold digger well.
Nah, it’s plenty plausible. right hand low, going left to right, left hand high, going up over her head pulling her head forward. I’m not saying it happened, but it’s plausible.
Correct, I voted in Cook County every time for 25 years, registration by party is not recorded. At the primary you can go to the polls and ask for the Republican ballot or the Democrat ballot (obviously they wont give you both unless you slip them a twenty or a couple good cigars).
My wife said the same thing.
She expects people to believe she called Cain and set up a meeting and he didn’t ask her what it was all about until they were eating dinner? So, she told him she needed a job and immediately Cain thought “Mmmm, I’m gonna’ get me some of that.”
She says she went to a Tea Party event 30 days ago and “confronted” him but didn’t say anything until the others came out.
Way too many holes in this story.
One thing sticks out in my mind. Why would a conservative go to the Commie, AllRed? Complete hit. Nothing more, and nothing less.
Wow, she pusued Mr. West or Mr. Naze for 10 years! She really has a LOT of experience with the courts!
No, I don’t expect perfection, I do expect someone who’s able to do the job, and Cain IMHO has shown to me over the last while he clearly isn’t remotely ready or able to do the job.
He’s a neophite to politics, and that wins him no points in my book. We already have a neophine in the white house and his inexperience and ineptitude have create so much chaos throughout the world, our economy and yes even within our own government its not comical.
I don’t see a guy ready for the nuclear football in Cain, let alone able to really get federal government agencies marching in a common direction, let alone the direction he would like.
I don’t think he’s a bad guy, unless these allegations turn out to be true, in which case, he’s not exactly a guy I would want around my female relatives. And if he was tryign to use his position of power for sexual favors, I sure don’t want him in the most powerful job in the world.
My beef with Cain is simply this, I just don’t see this guy capable of honestly doing the job. We can’t follow up one inexperienced person with another, I don’t care if he has an R beside his name. I’ve seen a lot of folks project things onto this guy, that I just don’t see in the candidate himself, much like democrats did with Obama in 08. I know folks are desperate for a Reagan, but there isn’t one in this election cycle and trying to prop up Cain as Reaganesque is laughable.
You and I have gone over this before and you still misstate the facts. Cain's statement related to himself. HE never paid any money to the woman. That is a true statement. He was not a signatory to the agreement. He, in fact, disputed the allegation. His not being a signatory means that he was not held accountable. You state this stuff again and you will be piling on lies.
Fact Cain, accused another republican of being the leaker of this information, INCORRECTLY.
Fact, a pollster for Perry stated publicly he was there at one of these so-called events. That gives reason to question whether Perry's campaign was involved.
Cain has not looked for one minute like hes in control of this situation, hes handled it beyond poorly.
That's because Cain has NOT been in control of events; he's been overtaken by events. Politico refused to tell him what the facts were before they were published so he was working in the dark. Not being a signatory to the agreement indicates he wasn't aware of the facts of the agreement so have no information with which to counter the allegations.
You accuse Cain of handling this as a rank amateur. You're handling it as a hit piece against Cain, even after being corrected by myself and others. We now all know your bias. It's clear for all to see.
No, actually, I’d vote for Newt. I’d vote for Cain. I wouldn’t vote for Perry. But the media has liked playing “flavor of the month” this year, and Newt is not a good choice for those leaving Cain for alleged attempted adultery.
Most of Cains supporters were likely with Perry in late August, Bachmann in July. Based on the fact that Cain was at 2% in the polls as recently as August 25, when Perry was at 27%.
If I’m a Cain supporter, on the fence about this, just remember Newt did worse. That’s all. Newt’s a good debater, and there’s some other good things about him, but on the adultery front, Newt’s worse.
Geesh, that was close! I thought you were talking about me.
Wow. That's an unexpected coincidence.
I’m not saying the attempted adultery allegations are true.
My point has never been about someone making a sudden allegation, my point is his former employer paid out money over an allegation against him, years ago, and he had NO IDEA! How do you have NO IDEA?? You are running for the Presidency, if you are serious about it, you know your life is going to be picked over and you should have your house in order. Do you think George Bush didn’t know about the DUI that the Gore Camp pulled out of their pocket in October of 2000?
This was an event his name was tied to in his past on the RECORD, not just something someone said.. it was documented and known! He should have known this was going to come up as a potential issue and should have been ready for it.. He was clearly blindsided by it, flailed around for days, lashed out and accused folks who had nothing to do with it, then backtracked. The guys not ready.. if he can be put into this sort of disarray over something that is out there in his own past he should have known about, how the hell is he going to handle a true crisis?
You keep trying to say he couldn’t have known, and that’s not true.. he not only could have known about this payout, he SHOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT IT.
Fox has plenty of lawyer/reporters and has been almost silent, though I think I heard some furious digging in the background.
I don’t know about Herman Cain, but I SURELY would have remembered meeting a woman with what could be described as a possible failed tattoo attempt of an aerial view of the Apollo 11 moon area landing area on her face.
Excellent description. LMAO!!!
No I don’t expect perfection, but I expect EXPERIENCE, and Cain doesn’t have it, at least not relevant experience, and this “crisis” and his actions during it have shown me beyond a reasonable doubt this guy is not ready for national politics, not even close.
We already have a bozo neophite in office, we cannot follow that up with someone with even LESS government experience, just because his name has an R beside it.
Here is the money quote from her statement.
“Instead of going in he suddenly reached over and put his hand on my leg, under my skirt and reached for my genitals. He also grabbed my head and brought it towards his crotch. I was surprised and shocked and I said,” What are you doing? You know I have a boyfriend. This is not what I came here for.” Mr. Cain said, “You want a job, right?”. I asked him to stop and he did. I asked him to take me back to my hotel which he did.”
I keep trying to tell everyone that Allred and her disgusting client prepared her statement with just enough fudge room and just enough ambiguity and just enough uncheckable iuformation to make it a lie that cannot be directly refuted.
As to your point, she does not say he was reaching under her skirt and pulling her head down at the same time. It just says “he also” pulled my head. At the same time? Maybe. A moment later? Maybe. What I find ridiculous is that, given the circumstances, if his advances were so clearly unwanted, she would have screamed and pushed his hand away from her leg in a split second and he would never have a chance to try to pull her head down to his crotch. If he actually tried to do both maneuvers simultaneously, she would have to have perceived a violent sexual assault and would have jumped out of the car and fled straight to the police.
If they had any encounter at all, she either started it or went along with it.
I like Mr. Cain....but I don't think he's adapted well to the political arena. ( And frankly I can't understand that he wouldn't know, know, know, how to bob and weave..the LEFT WING PRESS...Hell...I would, and I'm just an Okie..)
That said....Newt is growing on me. The hell with his personal life.
He has negatives....but they ain't nearly as many as Romney...in my book.
I can be steered in another way at this point....but Newt is who I'm leaning to.
Never thought I'd say that.........HA!!!
To cut Cain slack, he is a political novice and knows little about the process. He chose to have minimal advisers, and the one he has, Block, is a total doofus and should have been dumped sometime ago. He is totally out of this league at this point.
That’s really funny!
She wishes she looked that good!
Sharon Bialek.Worked at National Restaurant Association (Marketing Communications Coordinator)Studied at University of Illinois at Urbana-ChampaignLives in Chicago, IllinoisFrom Evanston, Illinois
I hope my efforts will make a difference and right past wrongs. Thanks you again.
Share · 38 minutes ago ·
Sharon, I can’t help but wonder about your motives. If, as you said, you came out so that that this never happens to another woman....then why did you wait 12 years? If all you said is true, think of how many women you might have “helped” had you come forward 12 years ago. I think your “reason” is silly at best.... pure b.s. at worst.
4 minutes ago.
COULDNT HAVE SAID IT BETTER DEE. THANK YOU
Someone was saying that I should leave Newt alone, as if he was just some old politician.
No, even if Cain was 100% guilty of whatever bs they’re throwing at him, Newt did worse. They’re both running for President. If anyone is thinking about changing their Cain vote because of this, just remember, Newt did worse.
That's inaccurate. In that earlier scuffle-up, the complaint against Cain was with the NRA HR in July of 1999. He was no longer at NRA at that time. The complaint was against NRA, not Cain, though he was mentioned in the complaint. Probably in that case, she listed multiple issues, Cain was one of them. Likely they were all false or exaggerated charges, but NRA wanted to get rid of a bad employee in the office before she poisoned the whole place.
You’re such a tool.
Not saying Cain did anything but what are you referring to?
I heard Rove like people say Cain can never ever make it because of lack of boots on the ground (GOP operatives) in key states and lack of money and guess what; he is number one;BECAUSE he handles the MSM very well with his bluntness say whats on his mind appeal (that few can get away with) They want him gone but he aint going anywhere... and he can sing.lol
I truly did not know Perry had such diehard supporters.
This name rings a bell ...
1 Records Retrieved.
Name/Aka Age Address Phone #’s Relative/Associates More Info
Naze, West Robert
46 Los Angeles, CA
Arlington Heights, IL
Eden Prairie, MN
New York, NY
Green Bay, WI
Available Steinhauer, Gloria J
Steinhauer, Robert L
EVP/National Sales Manager at News America Marketing
Greater Chicago Area
Marketing and Advertising
EVP/National Sales Manager at News America Marketing
Marketing Manager at Dean Foods
St. Norbert College
West Naze’s Experience
EVP/National Sales Manager
News America Marketing
Privately Held; 501-1000 employees; Marketing and Advertising industry
September 2006 Present (5 years 3 months)
Public Company; 10,001+ employees; DF; Dairy industry
May 1987 November 1988 (1 year 7 months)
West worked directly with all retail brand teams and the Director of Marketing on all advertising, promotion and trade programs. West also served as the liason between the sales organization and brand managers. West worked with the Director of Marketing and outside agencies in the production & development of radio and TV commercials.
West Naze’s Education
St. Norbert College
Bachelor of Business Administration, Sales & Marketing