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Tests Show Most Store Honey Isn't Honey
foodsafetynews ^ | NOV 07, 2011 | ANDREW SCHNEIDER

Posted on 11/08/2011 9:14:13 AM PST by opbuzz

More than three-fourths of the honey sold in U.S. grocery stores isn't exactly what the bees produce, according to testing done exclusively for Food Safety News.

The results show that the pollen frequently has been filtered out of products labeled "honey." The removal of these microscopic particles from deep within a flower would make the nectar flunk the quality standards set by most of the world's food safety agencies.

(Excerpt) Read more at foodsafetynews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; honey; pollen
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All of the organic honey tested comes from .... Brazil! And it does have pollen.
1 posted on 11/08/2011 9:14:18 AM PST by opbuzz
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To: opbuzz
All of the organic honey

I stick with inorganic honey, it's safer.

2 posted on 11/08/2011 9:18:23 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: opbuzz

Well, I'm certainly disappointed.

3 posted on 11/08/2011 9:19:32 AM PST by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: opbuzz

Don’t you want local honey so you’ll take in some local pollen for allergy reasons?


4 posted on 11/08/2011 9:21:46 AM PST by EEGator
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To: opbuzz

No such thing as organic honey. You can’t control where the bees go for nectar.


5 posted on 11/08/2011 9:26:09 AM PST by SkyDancer ("A Pessimist Is Just A Well Informed Optimist")
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To: SkyDancer

I always enjoy a roll in the clover with some honey.........


6 posted on 11/08/2011 9:29:31 AM PST by Red Badger (Obama's number one economics advisor must be a Magic Eight Ball.................)
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To: SkyDancer

We have tupelo honey here. The need are pretty limited to the nectar.


7 posted on 11/08/2011 9:29:48 AM PST by goseminoles
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To: SkyDancer

that’s like saying there is no such thing as clover honey because the bees might take in some apple blossom while they are at it.


8 posted on 11/08/2011 9:29:52 AM PST by Rippin
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To: opbuzz

If you want truly delicious honey, the best bet is either to find a store offering comb honey, or a local honey dealer. Comb honey is an odd treat, and children in particular seem to gobble it down. Local honey dealers are careful to indicate what *kind* of honey they have, as there are subtle flavor differences between clover, orange, wildflower and other types.

Importantly, though very hard to find, there is medicinal honey, which is very unpredictable. Unpasteurized honey *may* contain a whole slew of both antibiotics and anti-inflammatory chemicals, or it may not.

But if it does, it is the almost ideal treatment for gum disease, because it will both kill bacteria, and reduce the inflammation the bacteria hides behind. So you could literally brush your teeth with honey. Unfortunately Pasteurization destroys all these good effects.


9 posted on 11/08/2011 9:31:04 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: EEGator

Yup.


10 posted on 11/08/2011 9:32:06 AM PST by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: Theo

Thanks for the reply.


11 posted on 11/08/2011 9:33:40 AM PST by EEGator
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To: meowmeow

bfl


12 posted on 11/08/2011 9:34:00 AM PST by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: opbuzz

For some reason, I have never even liked honey to begin with.


13 posted on 11/08/2011 9:34:38 AM PST by MachIV
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To: SkyDancer

Where the bees go isn’t what makes it organic, what you do AFTER getting it from the bees is what does.


14 posted on 11/08/2011 9:34:53 AM PST by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: Hodar

I see that Trader Joe’s isn’t listed.

That’s good, I have bought their honey for some time.


15 posted on 11/08/2011 9:35:38 AM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: Rippin
that’s like saying there is no such thing as clover honey because the bees might take in some apple blossom while they are at it.

Or that saying a jar of honey is clover honey because some bee might have flown over a clover patch.

16 posted on 11/08/2011 9:38:27 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: opbuzz
I get my honey from a local Amish source here in WI.

Trust me....it has all the pollens the bees can gather!

IT AM GOOOOOOD!

17 posted on 11/08/2011 9:39:45 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (N/A)
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To: opbuzz

‘Keep here - locate local honey on a state by state basis and evaluate your trust of that individual.

http://www.honeyo.com/org-US_State.shtml

Not us though - we’ve more individual contacts than we can provide for.


18 posted on 11/08/2011 9:41:28 AM PST by NoNAIS (Yet another Government program not needed.)
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To: opbuzz

It is possible to feed your bees pure sugar. I bet there’s no pollen in the honey they produce when this is done.


19 posted on 11/08/2011 9:42:33 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Red Badger

20 posted on 11/08/2011 9:42:33 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: opbuzz

We buy from The Honeyman here in AZ... the ONLY place for honey!


21 posted on 11/08/2011 9:42:42 AM PST by SparkyBass
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To: opbuzz

Idiotic headline mars an otherwise interesting and concern-provoking story.


22 posted on 11/08/2011 9:47:51 AM PST by dangus
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To: SkyDancer

No such thing as INorganic honey. It’s all carbon-based.


23 posted on 11/08/2011 9:48:55 AM PST by dangus
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

You may find this thread interesting. You could post some of your pictures and educate the masses.


24 posted on 11/08/2011 9:49:45 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: opbuzz

I stopped ingesting honey when I found out it was bee puke.


25 posted on 11/08/2011 9:52:06 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Attacking Wall Street because you're jobless is like burning down Whole Foods because you're hungry.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
Fake honey! Unbelievable.

Send in the Killer Bees!


26 posted on 11/08/2011 9:59:44 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Attacking Wall Street because you're jobless is like burning down Whole Foods because you're hungry.)
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To: opbuzz

even throughout the season the honey from a single hive changes a lot. our backyard hive has lighter honey early, and it gets darker and a little heavier as the season gets later, totally depends on what they are working.

pretty astounding little insects. had a problem recently with the hive being attacked and raided by a wild hive. major battle, many casualties all over the ground, bees fighting. i closed the entrance to the hive down pretty small which gave the hive a chance to mount a defense which worked.

just like humans, why work when you can steal? same in the bee world, you need guards to protect.


27 posted on 11/08/2011 10:02:16 AM PST by beebuster2000
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Unpasteurized honey *may* contain a whole slew of both antibiotics and anti-inflammatory chemicals, or it may not.

Geez. Honey (and corn syrup) can contain C. botulinum spores that can result in botulin produced in the infant's gut in sufficient quantities that it can hurt them. This is why newborns shouldn't be fed honey or corn syrup. Pasteurization does not eliminate the threat.
28 posted on 11/08/2011 10:04:19 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Rippin

No, that’s not what it means. Organic farms are controlled and are certified as such. You can’t keep bees from going farms that are not certified as organic. They may get pollen from your organic clover that can be contaminated with bees from outside that area. It’s not where they get pollen (i.e apple or clover) but whether it’s certified organic. Next farm over may not be.


29 posted on 11/08/2011 10:05:46 AM PST by SkyDancer ("A Pessimist Is Just A Well Informed Optimist")
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To: Red_Devil 232

Garden Thread ping?


30 posted on 11/08/2011 10:07:53 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: discostu

It’s how you process it as in how it’s filtered and at what temperature. All honey even what’s called “raw honey” is processed in some way to remove bee parts or other contaminants. It’s micro-filtering that removes the pollen because some people are allergic to pollen and they choose to buy honey with the pollen removed. If, as the article states, any additives have to be listed. I have one of the honey manufactures that has the pollen removed and there is no listing of additives other than the statement “contains pure honey”.


31 posted on 11/08/2011 10:11:27 AM PST by SkyDancer ("A Pessimist Is Just A Well Informed Optimist")
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To: EEGator

We always try to find local honey, even if we have to shop out of the way to find it. If we’re going to eat honey (which lasts us for a long time), why not consume the stuff that’s going to make me healthier and feed the local economy, even if it costs a bit more?

Amazing thing about honey — to my knowledge, it’s the only food that doesn’t spoil. Ever. Even after centuries. Crazy!


32 posted on 11/08/2011 10:11:52 AM PST by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: SparkyBass

‘We buy from The Honeyman here in AZ...’

I tried to buy some off of a local guy driving a honey ‘wagon’. I figured he’d have the best. Boy was I wrong!


33 posted on 11/08/2011 10:13:17 AM PST by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: Theo

I didn’t know that about honey. I’ve had honey in a cabinet for about a year, and I threw it out. I figured it had to be bad by then. Now I know different...thanks.


34 posted on 11/08/2011 10:15:02 AM PST by EEGator
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To: opbuzz

I went to a fast food place and got a meal with some biscuits and two packages of honey.

I As I was eating it, I read the ingredients on the honey packs.

Sugar, high fruitcose corn syrup, honey flavoring, water. It was not honey at all.


35 posted on 11/08/2011 10:15:51 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

That is one fine bee. I won’t be able to remove that from my mind for the rest of the day.


36 posted on 11/08/2011 10:19:32 AM PST by EEGator
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To: opbuzz; stylecouncilor; windcliff
Alan Estrins´s Honey Blog
37 posted on 11/08/2011 10:20:57 AM PST by onedoug (lf)
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To: mamelukesabre

You have to feed bees sugar if you are going to rob their honey.


38 posted on 11/08/2011 10:21:47 AM PST by TweetEBird007
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To: opbuzz
More than three-fourths of the honey sold in U.S. grocery stores isn't exactly what the bees produce, according to testing done exclusively for Food Safety News.

Well, no. Otherwise it would have wax, bee parts and other things most people do not care to have on their morning toast mixed in.

It is still honey. This is like saying that tap water isn't water because it isn't exactly what comes from the lake.

39 posted on 11/08/2011 10:24:21 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (*Philosophy lesson 117-22b: Anyone who demands to be respected is undeserving of it.*)
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To: bk1000

I always heard that the honey wagon picked up the night
deposits from the slop jars.


40 posted on 11/08/2011 10:29:57 AM PST by TweetEBird007
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
I'm surprised that no one has used that oldie-but-goody ...

Bee healthy ...
Eat your honey ..."

41 posted on 11/08/2011 10:34:21 AM PST by BlueLancer (Secede?! Y'all better just be thankful we don't invade ...)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
I'd suppose you don't eat oysters either.
42 posted on 11/08/2011 10:35:03 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I wonder what percentage of people has eaten comb honey? And chewed the wax afterwards like gum?

I have, I worked for a beekeeper. All I took for lunch was bread, the honey was free.

Honeycombs are the best.


43 posted on 11/08/2011 10:37:32 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: Hodar

An interesting fact about who is on the list: 13 of the brands of honey are “store” brands (made by others and sold under the in-house brand name of a store-chain - like “Americas Choice” is the store-brand for the A&P Company). That’s almost half of the list.

It wouldn’t surprise me if some of the store-brands listed were actually produced by the same owner of some private label brand on the list, and then packaged under some store-brand label. To the extent that that is the case, the testing results in such an instance should have been combined as the results for what is actually one product.

Also, I did not see quite a few of the Honey brands I have bought; brands that were not store-brands.

I think the science on this should not extrapolate the results to the entire honey industry, unless the sample pool was larger.

A larger sample pool may, at a minimum, reduce the average result for non-pollen-content.

So, I may be missing some nutrient in my honey; my cup of tea doesn’t notice; it’s just as sweet.


44 posted on 11/08/2011 10:37:53 AM PST by Wuli
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To: opbuzz; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; billhilly; ...
Ping to the weekly gardening list. Thanks for the HT Afraidfortherepublic


Weekly Gardening Thread

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45 posted on 11/08/2011 10:38:40 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: dynoman

Only once that I can recall. And they were cooked.


46 posted on 11/08/2011 10:40:27 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Attacking Wall Street because you're jobless is like burning down Whole Foods because you're hungry.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Really? Do you like Jello?


47 posted on 11/08/2011 10:45:30 AM PST by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
The reason most people give for not eating oysters is that they have no bunghole, which is kind of in the same catagory as your "bee puke" reason for not eating honey.

I won't eat them raw, but love oyster soup made with milk, butter, oysters, cream of mushroom soup, and cream of potato soup.

48 posted on 11/08/2011 10:45:36 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: EEGator

Also, honey will, over time and if it gets cold, crystalize. Just immerse the jar in warmed water, it will reliquify, and all is good.


49 posted on 11/08/2011 10:47:43 AM PST by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I think that’s Eric Idle behind Gilda and Jane


50 posted on 11/08/2011 10:52:05 AM PST by Crcl1
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