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Penn State Said to Be Planning Paterno Exit Amid Scandal
New York Times ^ | 8 November 2011 | Mark Viera & Pete Thamel

Posted on 11/08/2011 11:40:43 AM PST by bjorn14

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. — Joe Paterno’s tenure as coach of the Penn State football team will soon be over, perhaps within days or weeks, in the wake of a sex-abuse scandal that has implicated university officials, according to two people briefed on conversations among the university’s top officials.

The board of trustees has yet to determine the precise timing of Paterno’s exit, but it is clear that the man who has more victories than any other coach at college football’s top level and who made Penn State a prestigious national brand will not survive to coach another season. Discussions about how to manage his departure have begun, according to the two people.

Paterno was to have held a news conference Tuesday but the university canceled it less than an hour before it was scheduled to start.

At age 84 and with 46 seasons as the Penn State head coach behind him, Paterno’s extraordinary run of success — one that produced tens of millions of dollars for the school and two national championships, and that established him as one of the nation’s most revered leaders, will end with a stunning and humiliating final chapter.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: collegefootball; paterno; pedstate; psu; retirement; sandusky
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1 posted on 11/08/2011 11:40:47 AM PST by bjorn14
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To: bjorn14

Why would Paterno need to leave if he had nothing to do with the scandal?


2 posted on 11/08/2011 11:42:28 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: SoldierDad
Why would Paterno need to leave if he had nothing to do with the scandal?

Because he knew his assistant coach was blowing kids in the shower and did nothing to stop it?

3 posted on 11/08/2011 11:45:01 AM PST by keat
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To: bjorn14

Good, that dirtbag never reported this monster to the Police. Hopefully he also never gets honored for his coaching wins, since he’s rendered them meaningless by turning a blind eye to that monster.


4 posted on 11/08/2011 11:46:38 AM PST by Amerikan_Samurai
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To: bjorn14; cornfedcowboy; Lazlo in PA
Ohio State has the Woody Hayes Athletic Center in spite of punching Clemson's Charlie Bauman in the 1978 Gator Bowl. While his storied coaching career was tarnished by that incident, his name appears on campus and his reputation has been repaired to some extent.

Whither Joe Paterno? Will his name be scrubbed from the library on campus?

5 posted on 11/08/2011 11:49:37 AM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: bjorn14
Paterno knew this vile scumbag was raping boys in the shower and did nothing. Apparently putting butts in the stadium seats is more important.
6 posted on 11/08/2011 11:50:28 AM PST by 4yearlurker (I've been dipping into my jar full of Hope & Change just to buy gas!!)
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To: keat

Because he knew his assistant coach was blowing kids in the shower and did nothing to stop it?
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That is so disheartening. Joe Paterno has been my favority sports figure for years because he is/was a man of integrity. But, he should have gone the the authorities with this when he first heard it. I’m very disappointed in him.


7 posted on 11/08/2011 11:52:15 AM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: bjorn14
It is unfathomable that this happened almost ten years ago, yet no one questioned why Sandusky was still around the program.

As a college football fan, I've had a tremendous respect for JoePa. It is inexplicable.

8 posted on 11/08/2011 11:52:31 AM PST by TexasNative2000 (Jimmy Carter's incompetence + Richard Nixon's paranoia = Barack Obama)
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To: Amerikan_Samurai
Good, that dirtbag never reported this monster to the Police. Hopefully he also never gets honored for his coaching wins, since he’s rendered them meaningless by turning a blind eye to that monster.

You sound like a Pitt fan?

Look the guy (Sandusky)is married and has at least one child. Do you think his family knew he was a monster.?
If you took any time to read the accounts of the story the grad assistant didn't tell Paterno the details of what he witnessed.
Paterno passed what information he had along to his superiors.
If you witnessed something of this nature at work (assuming you don't own the company), would you tell your boss or call the cops?

9 posted on 11/08/2011 11:54:35 AM PST by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: bjorn14

Paterno shares blame here, but the PSU administration was notified by Paterno and they tried to cover this up. If Paterno is the only one to pay then no justice has been done. Having said that, someone like Joe could have taken on the PSU admin (had he wanted) and won given his national standing.

I just hope everyone involved in this coverup eventually pays the price.


10 posted on 11/08/2011 11:54:45 AM PST by bereanway
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To: 4yearlurker

Paterno apparently reported it to his AD, which technically kept him on the right side of the law.

But like all of you, I would have then removed this dirtbag from campus and told him not to let me catch his arse around here again. Instead they chose to keep him around the football program.

I wanna know what did Graham Spanier know, and when did he know it?


11 posted on 11/08/2011 11:54:55 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: no dems

Did he witness the crime first hand or hear of it second hand?


12 posted on 11/08/2011 11:55:45 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: TexasNative2000

The NCAA needs to slap heavy sanctions on Penn State up to and including the Death Penalty.


13 posted on 11/08/2011 11:55:45 AM PST by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: bjorn14
"... According to grand jury evidence, Sandusky told the mother of Victim One: "I understand. I was wrong. I wish I could get forgiveness. I know I won’t get it from you. I wish I were dead."

So, what's stopping you, Sandusky?

Just don't use a gun, please. Gas yourself in your closed garage while sitting inside your running SUV, or go up into the forest and drink a gallon jug of Prestone® anti-freeze.

Paterno should be booger-hooked out of Penn State. I thought coaches were supposed to instill character in their players. Guess that old fart never really understood what the meant in all of his 46 years as coach.

14 posted on 11/08/2011 11:56:28 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: re_nortex
Will his name be scrubbed from the library on campus?

Will they return the millions he and Sue donated to the University?

15 posted on 11/08/2011 11:56:29 AM PST by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: SoldierDad

Makes me wonder if his staying on might’ve been related to keeping the lid on things? Idle conjecture on my part, since I haven’t a shred of evidence to back that up or perhaps, to even wonder aloud.


16 posted on 11/08/2011 11:57:32 AM PST by miele man
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To: re_nortex
Woody Hayes merely demonstrated poor sportmanship. The two incidents are in no way comparable. Not even close.
17 posted on 11/08/2011 11:57:42 AM PST by Ken H (They are running out of other people's money. )
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Paterno apparently reported it to his AD, which technically kept him on the right side of the law. But like all of you, I would have then removed this dirtbag from campus and told him not to let me catch his arse around here again. Instead they chose to keep him around the football program.

In addition to the AD, I would have reported the guy to the police.

18 posted on 11/08/2011 11:58:43 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: SoldierDad

“Why would Paterno need to leave if he had nothing to do with the scandal?”

According to the indictment, the second time this guy was caught in the shower (having anal sex with a young boy), the witness reported it directly to Paterno.

Paterno reported it to the AD...not the police...didn’t fire the guy, and apparently didn’t even admonish him for it.

Joe is king of all things football at Penn State. He could have fird the guy on the spot - but instead he pushes it on up the COC?

Sadly, it looks like Joe ignored the problem - and this guy was left to find even more victims.


19 posted on 11/08/2011 12:00:09 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: re_nortex
While his storied coaching career was tarnished by that incident, his name appears on campus and his reputation has been repaired to some extent.

As it should have been...Hayes was one of the greatest coaches of all time, and I say that as somebody who grew up as a diehard Michigan fan.

20 posted on 11/08/2011 12:00:57 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: FreeReign
In addition to the AD, I would have reported the guy to the police.

I'm sure you would have reported it if you witnessed it first hand.
But, Paterno didn't.
And, the grad assistant wasn't specific as to what took place.
Would you really involve the police on hearsay?
Paterno reported what he knew in a timely manor to his superiors.

21 posted on 11/08/2011 12:03:32 PM PST by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: Ken H

But Hayes was caught on TV.


22 posted on 11/08/2011 12:04:47 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: SoldierDad
Why would Paterno need to leave if he had nothing to do with the scandal?

It looks to me like this investigation was put on hold until he got the win record. His retirement will be his punishment. I'm not saying that's right, but I think that's the way it is.

23 posted on 11/08/2011 12:04:59 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Amerikan_Samurai
Gee, I guess lynching is really in vogue right now. Joe Paterno got a third hand report of an inappropriate action by a retired coach. He immediately reported it to his superiors. He was not a witness, and there has been no report that he had prior indications that Jerry Sandusky was a child abuser.

My real question is, why is the press so up in arms. Aren’t we supposed to embrace homosexuality, and isn’t intergenerational sex supposed to be the next taboo that is to be abolished???

24 posted on 11/08/2011 12:05:23 PM PST by Conservative_Rob
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To: lacrew
Joe is king of all things football at Penn State. He could have fird the guy on the spot

No he could not as Sandusky had resigned three years earlier.

25 posted on 11/08/2011 12:05:36 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (The patient is too far gone to save.)
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To: bereanway

What if it had been YOUR son raped?

Or raped a few year later because Paterno didn’t call the cops or follow up?

Penn State is facing hundreds of millions in liability. This is the biggest scandal in the history of college football by far.

These are children being raped.

If you put football over the safety of kids you’re a sad f@ck.


26 posted on 11/08/2011 12:07:49 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: Ramcat

“I’m sure you would have reported it if you witnessed it first hand.
But, Paterno didn’t.
And, the grad assistant wasn’t specific as to what took place.”

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The grad assistant that was an eyewitness to the rape?

Why exactly wasn’t he specific regarding aomething that abominably heinous?

Why then too, didn’t Paterno press him on the details and instead accept a nebulous, non-specific account?


27 posted on 11/08/2011 12:09:06 PM PST by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: lacrew
Paterno reported it to the AD...not the police...didn’t fire the guy, and apparently didn’t even admonish him for it.

I'm calling BS on this.
Everything I've read indicates that all the reported behavior took place AFTER Sandusky retired in 1999.
How could Paterno fire the guy when he didn't work for him at the time the incident took place???
Take your BS to a Buckeye site.

28 posted on 11/08/2011 12:09:11 PM PST by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: EyeGuy
The grad assistant that was an eyewitness to the rape? Why exactly wasn’t he specific regarding aomething that abominably heinous? Why then too, didn’t Paterno press him on the details and instead accept a nebulous, non-specific account?

Why don't you apply for a job at the Politico?

29 posted on 11/08/2011 12:11:18 PM PST by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: Ramcat
Will Paterno and Sue return the millions Penn State paid him for shaping the characters of young men such that they might be more inclined to turn a blind eye to sodomy of children?
30 posted on 11/08/2011 12:11:27 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: lacrew

If true, then Paterno should lose his retirement completely!


31 posted on 11/08/2011 12:13:02 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: bjorn14

“....the man who has more victories than any other coach at college football’s top level....”

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He would not have had that title if Penn State had competed more against SEC teams.


32 posted on 11/08/2011 12:14:39 PM PST by 353FMG (.)
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To: allmendream
Will Paterno and Sue return the millions Penn State paid him for shaping the characters of young men such that they might be more inclined to turn a blind eye to sodomy of children?

Nobody involved with the FOOTBALL department turned a blind eye.
The information was presented to the administration and they failed the victims and should be held accountable.

33 posted on 11/08/2011 12:15:45 PM PST by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: Ramcat

Why don’t you get you head out of your disgustingly biased asz and answer an honest question?

I’m trying to understand the DETAILS of this case and was looking for facts.

It is quite clear I need to look elsewhere.


34 posted on 11/08/2011 12:16:08 PM PST by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: TigerClaws

Is your reading comprehension that poor. Go back and reread my post. I said justice hadn’t been served as everyone responsible had not paid.

Get a grip.


35 posted on 11/08/2011 12:16:40 PM PST by bereanway
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To: SoldierDad
If true, then Paterno should lose his retirement completely!

Come on man!

Joe is 84 and a gazillionaire.
Retirement?
Come on man!

36 posted on 11/08/2011 12:18:09 PM PST by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: EyeGuy
It is quite clear I need to look elsewhere.

And that would be the people involved as they are the only ones who can answer your questions.

37 posted on 11/08/2011 12:19:00 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (The patient is too far gone to save.)
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To: Ramcat

Sure, guy was raping children in the showers at Penn State - was there last week working out in the weight room - takes his ‘troubled youth’ children to Penn State games.

But two credible reports that the guy was in the shower with young boys - and they seemed to have no problems having him around for the next ten years.

Penn State football has no class, and is led by a moral reprobate with pedophile friends.


38 posted on 11/08/2011 12:19:08 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: bjorn14

Just one of the reasons that I hope my granddaughter gets a sports scholarship. She’s got brains, a great personality and works hard...5th in her class of 500.


39 posted on 11/08/2011 12:19:29 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: SoldierDad

Well, from what I understand, Paterno reported the jerk to the AD and the AD did nothing. But Paterno had to see this guy continuing to work and having heard/seen nothing more from the AD, he should have been more aggressive - going over and above the AD - to get this jerk hauled in.


40 posted on 11/08/2011 12:19:29 PM PST by USNA74
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To: bjorn14

Whoops...Hope my granddaughter DOES NOT get a sports scholarship.


41 posted on 11/08/2011 12:21:26 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: bereanway

I thought I read yesterday that the AD and one other person were being tagged for lying to a Grand Jury, in an attempt to cover up the deal, and that’s a federal offense.


42 posted on 11/08/2011 12:22:24 PM PST by USNA74
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To: Ramcat

He should NOT receive any retirement benefits, period. His aquired wealth is something his victims could go after.


43 posted on 11/08/2011 12:22:28 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: lacrew
According to the indictment, the second time this guy was caught in the shower (having anal sex with a young boy), the witness reported it directly to Paterno.

I haven't been following this. What was a young boy doing in a college shower?

Or was it a 17-year-old Freshman?

44 posted on 11/08/2011 12:22:50 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (Civilization is unnatural. It is a whim of circumstance. Barbarism must always ultimately triumph.)
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To: bjorn14
Read the grand jury report:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2804362/posts

It's pretty clear that by 1998 everyone, including Paterno, knew that Sandusky was a pedophile, and it lead to Sandusky’s “retirement” in 1999.

45 posted on 11/08/2011 12:23:00 PM PST by mojito
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To: Sacajaweau

I was wondering about your initial comment ;0)


46 posted on 11/08/2011 12:24:50 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: Drill Thrawl

Well, obviously. That is the easy and expected cop-out answer.

When sweep-it-under-the rug Paterno is sued, if not prosecuted, I expect those are the exact primary questions that will indeed be asked.


47 posted on 11/08/2011 12:25:06 PM PST by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: trumandogz
The NCAA needs to slap heavy sanctions on Penn State up to and including the Death Penalty.

Fence it off and call it State Pen.

48 posted on 11/08/2011 12:25:45 PM PST by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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To: PapaBear3625
The witness said that the boy appeared to be 10 years old.

Sandusky was a child rapist, and everyone connected with the PSU football program knew it and covered it up.

49 posted on 11/08/2011 12:25:59 PM PST by mojito
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To: Amerikan_Samurai

In the words of Johnny Cash

..you can roll on for along time, but soon or later God will cut you down...

Paterno stayed in coaching way too long, and by doing so he has exposed himself as someone who was not looking out for the best intrests of his university and people in general.


50 posted on 11/08/2011 12:26:54 PM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative
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