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AP: Joe Paterno to retire at season's end
CBS Sports ^ | November 9, 2011

Posted on 11/09/2011 7:25:38 AM PST by Zakeet

UPDATE - Nov. 9: The Associated Press is reporting that Joe Paterno has decided to retire at the end of the season.

As the amount of alleged victims in the Jerry Sandusky case climbs rapidly, reports are emerging that Penn State head coach Joe Paterno's coaching career will soon come to an end. Official support for Paterno is reportedly "eroding," even as Nittany Lion fans rally in support of the longtime coach.

The New York Times reported Tuesday that Paterno's 46 years as Nittany Lion head coach "will soon be over, perhaps within days or weeks." According to two sources familiar with top administrative discussions who spoke to the Times, talks to determine "how to manage his departure have begun."

"The board of trustees has yet to determine the precise timing of Paterno’s exit," the Times writes, "but it is clear that the man who has more victories than any other coach at college football’s top level and who made Penn State a prestigious brand will not survive to coach another season."

(Excerpt) Read more at eye-on-college-football.blogs.cbssports.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: absolutemorals; coach; homosexualagenda; paterno; pederast; pederastagenda; pederasts; pederasty; pennstate; retirement; sandusky; theend
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To: dfwgator
I don’t think anybody is suggesting that Paterno is legally in the wrong.

Pains me to say this, but I think the DA had enough to charge Paterno if she had chosen to press the point. The questioning of McCreary & Paterno left the issue of "what exactly Joe was told" wide open. I think that was by design because the prosecution needs Joe's testimony.

261 posted on 11/09/2011 10:47:52 AM PST by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: Lancey Howard
According to the investigative reporter I listened to yesterday

Nope, you didn't read it.

Paterno knew nothing about the 1998 incident. His name is mentioned nowhere.

He knew nothing of it? Sandusky was fired in 1999 which, incidentally was not long after Sandusky's admission to the mother of Victim 6 that he had indeed molested her son in a shower at Pedo State's facilities. Also, it was not long after the mother of Victim 6 went to the Pedo State faculty which spurred the investigation of Sandusky and you would have us "cretins" believe that the "TITAN" of college football was not made aware of what was going on in his facility?

Yeah, you keep waiting...

Does that clear it up for you?

Heh....
262 posted on 11/09/2011 10:50:46 AM PST by wasp69 (space for rent)
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To: Lancey Howard
OK...fair enough. But, it sure does not look good for him. I have very dear friends here in Maryland who are a HUGE PSU family (they were there two weeks ago) and are devastated by this. I have no Schadenfreude in this (even though we are a U Mich family), but I am also a pediatrician and am totally disgusted beyond belief by this whole sorry affair.

And, JoePa's statement today was pathetic. Sorry.

263 posted on 11/09/2011 10:51:36 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must...)
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To: Lancey Howard
nobody ever heard of any of these other clowns

Spanier was on Obama's short list for Secretary of Education in 2008 ...

264 posted on 11/09/2011 10:53:32 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: Lancey Howard
All I'm trying to do is keep a little perspective until more is known.

Perspective. There was boy-raping sex ring in State College and everyone knew about it and covered it up.

265 posted on 11/09/2011 10:56:28 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: Pharmboy; All

ESPN is reporting that TOM RIDGE, Former Pa Republican Gov, and Secretary of Homeland Security under Bush, will be maned as the new President of Pedo State.

He is a Pro-Choice Repub, but he has a chance, (And a MANDATE), to walk in to Happy Valley and completely clean out that nest of criminals, and Socialists.


266 posted on 11/09/2011 10:57:45 AM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: Pharmboy
Don't waste your breath. As the saying goes, "there are none so blind as those who will not see", and unfortunately that's what you're dealing with when it comes to some of the PSU/Paterno "groupies" here on FR.

But take solace in this, as things stand right now, PSU is about to have the biggest public relations DISASTER in the history of major universities this Saturday; all of it nationally televised and self-inflicted. It would be hilarious if not for the heinous nature of the underlying cause.

"BEAT NEBRASKA", right JoePa?!?!?

267 posted on 11/09/2011 10:58:20 AM PST by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: safeasthebanks
PSU is about to have is having the biggest public relations DISASTER in the history of major universities this Saturday; all of it nationally televised and self-inflicted.
268 posted on 11/09/2011 11:04:01 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: tcrlaf

Wow...pretty good choice (even though he’s not as conservative as we would like).They need to clean house quickly...JoePa should not be seen in the booth on Saturday.


269 posted on 11/09/2011 11:05:38 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must...)
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To: Lancey Howard
According to the investigative reporter I listened to yesterday, Paterno knew nothing about the 1998 incident. His name is mentioned nowhere.

I have a quote for you, Lancey:

Paterno’s son, Scott, has said that lawyers for Penn State assured him his father was never told about the 1998 report — investigated by university police.

I am sure all of us can rest assured that since a lawyer said it, it must be true. < /s >

I also have one more:

“And you’re going to tell me that Spanier and Paterno weren’t informed of something that was that huge that Ray Gricar was in on it but Spanier was kept in the dark?” she said. “I’m just not that stupid. I’m so upset I just can’t believe it.”

That's from the mother of Victim 6, he of the 1998 incident. It would seem that she would disagree with your assessment that Paterno was somehow left in the dark. You can read about it yourself here.
270 posted on 11/09/2011 11:06:40 AM PST by wasp69 (space for rent)
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To: Lancey Howard; wasp69
According to the investigative reporter I listened to yesterday, Paterno knew nothing about the 1998 incident. His name is mentioned nowhere.

We don't know that...(unless you are omniscient)

Sandusky retired June of 1999. Obstensibly it was because he learned he would not be JoePa's replacement.

My, how coincidental the retirement came to the '98 stuff.

And, of course, Joe never heard from the AD as to why Sandusky was retiring at just 55 years of age.

Of course, it wasn't a "coerced" retirement or anything like that...of which, of course, JoePa NEVER knew anything about.

271 posted on 11/09/2011 11:12:50 AM PST by Colofornian (The Ped State KnitKinsey Lionizers: The campus which most now love to loathe!)
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To: tcrlaf; All

CBSSports.com wire reports
Nov. 9, 2011

A chronological look at the case against former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky, based on a grand jury report in Pennsylvania state court. Some key dates in Penn State football history are included. Sandusky has been charged with 40 criminal counts, accusing him of serial sex abuse of minors.

1969: Jerry Sandusky starts his coaching career at Penn State University as a defensive line coach.
1977: Jerry Sandusky founds The Second Mile. It begins as a group foster home dedicated to helping troubled boys and grows into a charity dedicated to helping children with absent or dysfunctional families.
January 1983: Associated Press voters select Penn State as college football’s national champion for the 1982 season.
January 1987: Associated Press voters select Penn State as college football’s national champion for the 1986 season.
1994: Boy known as Victim 7 in the report meets Sandusky through The Second Mile program at about the age of 10.
1994-95: Boy known as Victim 6 meets Sandusky at a Second Mile picnic at Spring Creek Park when he is 7 or 8 years old.
1995-96: Boy known as Victim 5, meets Sandusky through The Second Mile when he is 7 or 8, in second or third grade.
1996-97: Boy known as Victim 4, at the age of 12 or 13, meets Sandusky while he is in his second year participating in The Second Mile program.
1996-98: Victim 5 is taken to the locker rooms and showers at Penn State by Sandusky when he is 8 to 10 years old.
Jan. 1, 1998: Victim 4 is listed, along with Sandusky’s wife, as a member of Sandusky’s family party for the 1998 Outback Bowl.
1998: Victim 6 is taken into the locker rooms and showers when he is 11 years old. When Victim 6 is dropped off at home, his hair is wet from showering with Sandusky. His mother reports the incident to the university police, who investigate.
Detective Ronald Schreffler testifies that he and State College Police Department Detective Ralph Ralston, with the consent of the mother of Victim 6, eavesdrop on two conversations the mother of Victim 6 has with Sandusky. Sandusky says he has showered with other boys and Victim 6’s mother tries to make Sandusky promise never to shower with a boy again but he will not. At the end of the second conversation, after Sandusky is told he cannot see Victim 6 anymore, Schreffler testifies Sandusky says, “I understand. I was wrong. I wish I could get forgiveness. I know I won’t get it from you. I wish I were dead.”
Jerry Lauro, an investigator with the Pennsylvania Department of Public Welfare, testifies he and Schreffler interviewed Sandusky, and that Sandusky admits showering naked with Victim 6, admits to hugging Victim 6 while in the shower and admits that it was wrong.
The case is closed after then-Centre County District Attorney Ray Gricar decides there will be no criminal charge.
June 1999: Sandusky retires from Penn State but still holds emeritus status.
Dec. 28, 1999: Victim 4 is listed, along with Sandusky’s wife, as a member of Sandusky’s family party for the 1999 Alamo Bowl.
Summer 2000: Boy known as Victim 3 meets Sandusky through The Second Mile when he is between seventh and eighth grade.
Fall 2000: A janitor named James Calhoun observes Sandusky in the showers of the Lasch Football Building with a young boy — known as Victim 8 — pinned up against the wall and performing oral sex on the boy. He tells other janitorial staff immediately. Fellow Office of Physical Plant employee Ronald Petrosky cleans the showers at Lasch and sees Sandusky and the boy, who he describes as being between the ages of 11 and 13.
Calhoun tells other physical plant employees what he saw, including Jay Witherite, his immediate supervisor. Witherite tells him to whom he should report the incident. Calhoun was a temporary employee and never makes a report. Victim 8’s identity is unknown.
March 1, 2002: A Penn State graduate assistant enters the locker room at the Lasch Football Building. In the showers, he sees a naked boy, known as Victim 2, whose age he estimates to be 10 years old, being subjected to anal intercourse by a naked Sandusky. The graduate assistant tells his father immediately.
March 2, 2002: In the morning, the graduate assistant calls coach Joe Paterno and goes to Paterno’s home, where he reports what he has seen.
March 3, 2002: Paterno calls Tim Curley, Penn State athletic director, to his home the next day and reports a version of what the grad assistant had said.
March 2002: Later in the month the graduate assistant is called to a meeting with Curley and Senior Vice President for Finance and Business Gary Schultz. The grad assistant reports what he has seen and Curley and Schultz say they will look into it.
March 27, 2002 (approximate): The graduate assistant hears from Curley. He is told that Sandusky’s locker room keys are taken away and that the incident has been reported to The Second Mile. The graduate assistant is never questioned by university police and no other entity conducts an investigation until the graduate assistant testifies in Grand Jury in December 2010.
2005-2006: Boy known as Victim 1 says that meets Sandusky through The Second Mile at age 11 or 12.
Spring 2007: During the 2007 track season, Sandusky begins spending time with Victim 1 weekly, having him stay overnight at his residence in College Township, Pa.
Spring 2008: Termination of contact with Victim 1 occurs when he is a freshman in a Clinton County high school. After the boy’s mother calls the school to report sexual assault, Sandusky is barred from the school district attended by Victim 1 from that day forward and the matter is reported to authorities as mandated by law.
Early 2009: An investigation by the Pennsylvania attorney general begins when a Clinton County, Pa. teen boy tells authorities that Sandusky has inappropriately touched him several times over a four-year period.
September 2010: Sandusky retires from day-to-day involvement with The Second Mile, saying he wants to spend more time with family and handle personal matters.
Nov. 5, 2011: Sandusky is arrested and released on $100,000 bail after being arraigned on 40 criminal counts.
Nov. 7, 2011: Pennsylvania Attorney General Linda Kelly says Paterno is not a target of the investigation into how the school handled the accusations. But she refuses to say the same for university President Graham Spanier. Curley and Schultz, who have stepped down from their positions, surrender on charges that they failed to alert police to complaints against Sandusky.
Nov. 8, 2011: Possible ninth victim of Sandusky contacts state police as calls for ouster of Paterno and Spanier grow in state and beyond. Penn State abruptly cancels Paterno’s regular weekly press conference.
Nov. 9, 2011: Paterno announces he’ll retire at the end of the season.


272 posted on 11/09/2011 11:14:46 AM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Amazed at how many apologists there are for Paterno. So, if a murder was reported to him, it was enough just to tell the next guy higher up?

Agreed. They usually NEVER mention the victim.

Good analogy re: murder. (Or pick your own felony)

273 posted on 11/09/2011 11:16:54 AM PST by Colofornian (The Ped State KnitKinsey Lionizers: The campus which most now love to loathe!)
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To: NewinTexsas; OrangeHoof
Follow this. Paterno believes that McQueary has brought these horrendous charges against your old friend of fourty years and has caused an internal scandal all the way up to the president. What do you do? Reward him with a position as your WR coach!

Some things just have to be spelled out for some posters.

274 posted on 11/09/2011 11:18:14 AM PST by Colofornian (The Ped State KnitKinsey Lionizers: The campus which most now love to loathe!)
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To: tcrlaf

Perhaps it’s time to yank the statue down & realize that JoePa is not a god, after all.


275 posted on 11/09/2011 11:20:12 AM PST by Colofornian (The Ped State KnitKinsey Lionizers: The campus which most now love to loathe!)
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To: NewinTexsas
I am thinking that this is going to get worse. We might be only be seeing the tip. Hypothetically, what if Sandusky, who is obviously an evil evil man, had something on everyone. Maybe he had pics of Spanier. Maybe he told Joe he would tell why he didn't score again in certain games. Maybe the GA was assaulted by Sandusky previously or his father was prescibing drugs to players, this could go on and on. Everyone in this Ivory Tower could have had something to lose if this went public and Sandusky started talking, including the DA.

The stench of this is only going to get stronger.

276 posted on 11/09/2011 11:21:28 AM PST by cork
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To: Zakeet

What a disgusting case. All to protect the legacy of a sports game. I see some comments that reference championships and bowl games, etc. I know football is important to many people, but it’s a game of glorified catch. Some poor boy is anally raped, it’s covered up and I can’t believe how some people are so boo hoo poor JoePa.


277 posted on 11/09/2011 11:21:44 AM PST by jjm2111
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To: Colofornian

Truly the god that failed.


278 posted on 11/09/2011 11:22:45 AM PST by wasp69 (space for rent)
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To: cork
or his father was prescibing drugs to players,

I had heard only that the father was a friend. Was he also a doctor? Did he have any official relationship with PSU?

279 posted on 11/09/2011 11:24:01 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: jjm2111; cork
All to protect the legacy of a sports game.

As I have previously posted, I think this is about protecting more that PSU football. This seems to be about protecting a College State sex ring.

280 posted on 11/09/2011 11:25:55 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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