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ZDNet: Flash is dead. Long live HTML5
ZD Net ^ | November 9, 2011 | Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols

Posted on 11/09/2011 11:52:53 AM PST by Bush_Democrat

Summary: It’s official, Adobe is putting its future mobile video efforts behind HTML5. So, do you really think that desktop Flash will survive for long?

Adobe’s love affair with its Flash format has come to an end. Oh sure, Adobe said they were just killing development on mobile browser Flash in favor of HTML5, but seriously, do you think, that they’ll keep working on Flash on the desktop for much longer? If you do, I have a nice, lightly-used bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell you. No, the end of Flash is in sight and HTML5 is now the one true future for Internet video.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: adobe; apple; flash
Hmm, Steve Jobs - Flash Killer?
1 posted on 11/09/2011 11:52:56 AM PST by Bush_Democrat
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To: Swordmaker

Apple-List ping!


2 posted on 11/09/2011 11:54:24 AM PST by Bush_Democrat (ATLAS SHRUGGED was supposed to be a warning, NOT a newspaper.)
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To: Bush_Democrat

The Flash is dead?????...Dang, now I won't go see the movie........

3 posted on 11/09/2011 11:55:52 AM PST by Red Badger (Obama's number one economics advisor must be a Magic Eight Ball.................)
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To: Bush_Democrat

Not Jobs, just reality. Flash has been a no good POS for a long time, the main reason it stuck around so long was lack of competition. Then came HTML5 and Silverlight, one of them was bound to beat Flash. When you have a platform that only gets used because of the lack of competition the second competition shows up your clock is ticking. I won’t miss Flash crashes.


4 posted on 11/09/2011 11:56:39 AM PST by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: Bush_Democrat

Flash was always buggy, came with security vulnerabilities and wasn’t seamless with HTML. The new standard will make playing videos effortless on the Internet.


5 posted on 11/09/2011 11:58:40 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Bush_Democrat

flash never worked well on windows 7.


6 posted on 11/09/2011 11:58:55 AM PST by ken21
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To: Bush_Democrat

While a lot of the attention is understandably on Flash versus HTML5, and HTML5 video, HTML5 is going to end up killing a lot of technologies. One small example is web sockets (currently not well supported, due to security problems), which will ultimately render Ajax unnecessary.


7 posted on 11/09/2011 12:02:09 PM PST by jjsheridan5
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To: Bush_Democrat
Cool.

What will be using next week?

8 posted on 11/09/2011 12:03:29 PM PST by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: Bush_Democrat
Hmm, Steve Jobs - Flash Killer?

Silverlight killer as well.

9 posted on 11/09/2011 12:03:36 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: Bush_Democrat

Time killed flash, and it killed DOS too.
Things become obsolete.

Jobs prematurely jumped on HTML5 and left the people who purchace Apple mobile products without cutesy little games or much of the internet video content for four, maybe five device design cycles.


10 posted on 11/09/2011 12:04:11 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Bush_Democrat

Flash has been dead for a while now... it just hasn’t stopped sucking the life out of CPUs yet.


11 posted on 11/09/2011 12:04:41 PM PST by kevkrom (This space for rent.)
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To: Bush_Democrat; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; ...
Adobe has thrown in the towel on FLASH? Throws support to HTML5...—PING!


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12 posted on 11/09/2011 12:10:14 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: Bush_Democrat

Works for me as I’m sick and tired of getting Flash error messages on Firefox


13 posted on 11/09/2011 12:11:24 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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14 posted on 11/09/2011 12:16:23 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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15 posted on 11/09/2011 12:17:17 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Bush_Democrat

Can anyone explain how HTML5 can escape intellectual property claims? There are many patents about digital animation and video. Android is under a barrage of lawsuits. How can HTML5 escape IP claims?


16 posted on 11/09/2011 12:20:28 PM PST by businessprofessor
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To: Bush_Democrat

Dang! All those annoying updates for this?


17 posted on 11/09/2011 12:21:04 PM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Switch to Google Chrome. I did 3 weeks ago and it also gets rid of the memory hog aspects of Firefox also.


18 posted on 11/09/2011 12:21:04 PM PST by packrat35 (America is rapidly becoming a police state that East Germany could be proud of!)
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19 posted on 11/09/2011 12:59:28 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Bush_Democrat

So, does this mean that things that couldn’t be seen or run on iPhones, iPads, etc. be seen and run now?


20 posted on 11/09/2011 1:09:29 PM PST by NCC-1701 (In Memphis on January 20, 2009, pump price were $1.49. We all know what happened after that.)
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To: Bush_Democrat

When the hell is HTML going to die? Nothing like putting scotch tape on a dirty diaper.


21 posted on 11/09/2011 1:23:25 PM PST by douginthearmy
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To: douginthearmy
When the hell is HTML going to die? Nothing like putting scotch tape on a dirty diaper.

20 years? There are some technologies that will be around in some form because they are truly cross-platform and are used extensively. JPEG is coming up on its 20th birthday and it's not going anywhere anytime soon.

I'm glad to see the demise of Flash, even if it's just on the mobile side. 99% of the time that I have problems on a website, it's something related to Flash.
22 posted on 11/09/2011 1:33:16 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

Most of you have no idea what Adobe just said.

Flash is not dead, even on the mobile. They are not supporting the flash PLAYER on the mobile browsers anymore.

Adobe AIR (built in Flash Builder/Flex) is used to build apps on iPhones and Droid.

For PC online gaming and elearning, HTML5 isn’t even a player.


23 posted on 11/09/2011 1:49:58 PM PST by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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To: Bush_Democrat

Next, please kill PDF. I hate it. Slow. Resource hog. Requires another application just to read text.


24 posted on 11/09/2011 1:51:29 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: businessprofessor

If nobody profits from selling HTML5 there is nobody to sue. Who wants to be the guy who sues everyone who owns a website? The most hated man in the world!


25 posted on 11/09/2011 1:54:05 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: packrat35; Buckeye McFrog

Yeah, Firefox ain’t what it used to be. Everyone went to it because it was simple, fast and easy. Now with all the plug-in and add-ons it gets buggy.

I like the add-on that stops web pages from automatically running video/sound. This should be automatic in a browser, imho.


26 posted on 11/09/2011 1:56:06 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: packrat35; Swordmaker

What do you know about the Maxthon3 browser?


27 posted on 11/09/2011 2:00:03 PM PST by Loud Mime (It's not "OCCUPY" movements - it's "COMMUNIZE" movements)
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To: monkeyshine
Next, please kill PDF. I hate it. Slow. Resource hog. Requires another application just to read text.

Not true. PDF files are used extensively because is it cross platform and renders accurately. It is the reader that is the hog and you can do something about that. Foxit PDF reader replaces Adobe Reader and is lightweight, fast, and trouble-free. Google, DL, install, then if you like uninstall that nasty Adobe reader. And if you pay a little bit, get the pro version and you can edit PDF files too. I cannot say enough good about it. Don't suffer, do something about it.

28 posted on 11/09/2011 2:23:48 PM PST by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*)
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To: Loud Mime

I don’t know about it. Haven’t used it.


29 posted on 11/09/2011 2:47:41 PM PST by packrat35 (America is rapidly becoming a police state that East Germany could be proud of!)
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To: Azeem
Flash is not dead, even on the mobile. They are not supporting the flash PLAYER on the mobile browsers anymore.

It'll be dead on the mobile side if there are no players going forward.
30 posted on 11/09/2011 3:30:27 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: discostu

I won’t miss the several times per week (after week, after weei) updates that non-admin users can’t install.


31 posted on 11/09/2011 4:23:59 PM PST by j_tull (I may make you feel, but I can't make you think.)
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To: af_vet_rr

“It’ll be dead on the mobile side if there are no players going forward”

No, it won’t. AIR doesn’t run in the player. It runs as a native app.


32 posted on 11/09/2011 4:50:06 PM PST by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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To: Azeem
No, it won’t. AIR doesn’t run in the player. It runs as a native app.

I'm all in favor of a native app versus flash in a mobile browser.
33 posted on 11/09/2011 5:25:04 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

AIR is awesome. Building for iPHones and Droid at the same time is much preferred.

The new 3D capability of Flash 11 is really cool. You can run Unity through it and the Unreal engine.

And HTML5 will require Microsoft, Apple, Google, and Mozilla to work together and standardized. Microsoft will find a way to screw it up (just like Java, CSS, etc).


34 posted on 11/09/2011 5:33:14 PM PST by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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To: discostu

This is actually missing the point. JavaScript is really old. Actionscript is actually a later version of ECMAscript. There needs to be a standard that replaces JavaScript. HTML5 will get there, but it hasn’t completely yet.


35 posted on 11/09/2011 5:58:28 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Swordmaker

Thanks Swordmaker. Gotta be Apple’s fault, not the marketplace. :’)


36 posted on 11/09/2011 8:32:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Bush_Democrat

BTTT


37 posted on 11/10/2011 12:30:05 AM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is... tell your storm how BIG your God is!)
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To: nickcarraway; Bush_Democrat
This is actually missing the point. JavaScript is really old. Actionscript is actually a later version of ECMAscript. There needs to be a standard that replaces JavaScript. HTML5 will get there, but it hasn’t completely yet.

JavaScript is alive and well. ECMAScript 5 is the latest version, and the next version is under development. Server-side JavaScript is also alive and well with Node.js.

Actionscript is Adobe's fork of JavaScript. Nobody else uses it. It's not a standard. Adobe thought they could high-jack the standards committee. Well, it didn't' turn out that way.

38 posted on 11/15/2011 8:12:28 AM PST by stripes1776
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