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Penn State trustees fire football coach Joe Paterno and PSU president Spanier
AP/Newser.com ^ | Nov. 9, 2011 | Genaro C. Armas

Posted on 11/09/2011 7:30:27 PM PST by Colofornian

Penn State trustees fired football coach Joe Paterno and university president Graham Spanier (SPAN-yer) amid the growing furor over how the school handled sex abuse allegations against an assistant coach.

The massive shakeup Wednesday night came hours after Paterno announced that he planned to retire at the end of his 46th season.

But the outcry following the arrest of former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky on molestation charges proved too much for the board to ignore.

One key question has been why Paterno and other top school officials didn't go to police in 2002 after being told a graduate assistant saw Sandusky assaulting a boy in a school shower...

(Excerpt) Read more at newser.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: fired; grahamspanier; jerrysandusky; joepaterno; paterno; pennstate; pennsylvania; sandusky; spanier
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Paterno and Penn State president fired
1 posted on 11/09/2011 7:30:36 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian; Admin Moderator; Sidebar Moderator

Hey I think this is huge news and I think this story should be in “Breaking News”. Just my opinion.


2 posted on 11/09/2011 7:32:20 PM PST by Dengar01 (Dengar01 - "Heartless" since 1983!!!)
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To: Colofornian

Good. Mcqueary is still there though.


3 posted on 11/09/2011 7:34:32 PM PST by free me (heartless)
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To: Colofornian

It was coming. You can’t finish your season with the people in place.


4 posted on 11/09/2011 7:34:53 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Dengar01

Why didn’t the witness call the cops instead of going to Paterno?


5 posted on 11/09/2011 7:34:53 PM PST by GreaterSwiss
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To: Colofornian

This will be like a death in my family. Rural PA took much of their identity from JoePa and Penn State. They always held their heads up because they might be never-graduated coal miners but they were also Penn State.


6 posted on 11/09/2011 7:35:08 PM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: Colofornian
Assistant coach McQuery has taken a leave of absence. Look for him to be gone soon too.

A sad day for Penn State - but it pales in comparison to the lives of the children who will continue to suffer.

7 posted on 11/09/2011 7:35:22 PM PST by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: Colofornian

I’m not a college football fan so I don’t know anything about these people. All I know is that if the allegations are true it means Paterno has his priorities all messed up and needed to be fired.


8 posted on 11/09/2011 7:35:35 PM PST by Artemis Webb
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To: Colofornian

And yet, McPussy is still going to stay? I get the feeling the Penn State student body won’t let him near the stadium.


9 posted on 11/09/2011 7:35:46 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: GreaterSwiss

Same question could be asked of Paterno


10 posted on 11/09/2011 7:36:03 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Dengar01

I feel bad for the players, especially the seniors. This is not how they want their last season to end.

I know it does not begin to measure up to what those young boys went through, but it has to be tough on them just the same.


11 posted on 11/09/2011 7:36:39 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: GreaterSwiss

Why didn’t the parents of those young boys go to the cops?


12 posted on 11/09/2011 7:36:44 PM PST by Rushmore Rocks
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To: Colofornian
Paterno and Penn State president fired

I wonder if the cheering supporters will still be outside of Paternos house tonight???

13 posted on 11/09/2011 7:37:18 PM PST by whodathunkit
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To: Colofornian

This had to be done. I like Paterno, but he failed to live up to his own code by not reporting what he knew to the police.


14 posted on 11/09/2011 7:37:32 PM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: Colofornian

Penn St is turning them loose on the public?

15 posted on 11/09/2011 7:38:11 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: GreaterSwiss

And, why didn’t he stop the sodomite?


16 posted on 11/09/2011 7:38:15 PM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Colofornian

one of the reporters just asked “are you aware students are rioting downtown right now because of your decision?”

a lot of angry reporters and a lot of support still for JoePa...


17 posted on 11/09/2011 7:39:06 PM PST by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: whodathunkit

Students are saying they are going to “burn the town down”.

Will wait to see what happens. Hopefully all remains peaceful.


18 posted on 11/09/2011 7:39:19 PM PST by VicVega (Geaux LSU, Geaux Saints)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

It’s tough on everybody.


19 posted on 11/09/2011 7:39:33 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: Rushmore Rocks

Why didn’t the parents of those young boys go to the cops?


I have many questions about the whole mess...something is fundamentaly wrong.


20 posted on 11/09/2011 7:39:38 PM PST by chasio649 (Stop looking for heroes.)
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To: Colofornian

This is the way it should be.

Protecting children is more important than winning football games. The people at Penn State got it mixed up and they need to go.


21 posted on 11/09/2011 7:40:12 PM PST by BAW (No Romney.)
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To: Rushmore Rocks

i asked that same question...there was a story on Monday on ESPN that evidently sandusky went to the house of one of his victims and apologized to the mother a while ago....


22 posted on 11/09/2011 7:40:24 PM PST by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: dfwgator

You made a good point yesterday about the away games being especially brutal. They will be.


23 posted on 11/09/2011 7:40:33 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Colofornian

It needed to happen. Sorry Joe, I wish you had done more, too. Those victims will never be the same. And Sandusky should spend the rest of his life in a very rough prison.

I could elaborate on an experience of my own in my younger years (and as a troubled youth)..and although nothing as egregious as what happened to those boys heppened to me...it was scary as hell. But I must say, when I finally had the nerve to tell my foster father what I was up against, he got me away from those who ..lets just say..had their own agendas. I will always be grateful to him.


24 posted on 11/09/2011 7:40:35 PM PST by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: VicVega

It is going to be an absolute circus this Saturday, they should have considered shutting down the football program for the rest of the year.


25 posted on 11/09/2011 7:41:11 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: Snickering Hound

Sandusky has been free on bail for at least a day now.

He’s been court ordered to stay away from his own grand kids.

Like a court order ever kept a pervert from acting.


26 posted on 11/09/2011 7:43:23 PM PST by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: GreaterSwiss; Admin Moderator; Sidebar Moderator
Why didn’t the witness call the cops instead of going to Paterno?

This is the Marcy Park part of the story. A District Attorney dismissed all charges against the gay pedophile in 1998. In 2005 the DA went "missing" and in June 2011 declared "legally dead"...

I mean this is like a Hollywood mob movie!

To the mods, you guys rock as usual :D

27 posted on 11/09/2011 7:43:32 PM PST by Dengar01 (Dengar01 - "Heartless" since 1983!!!)
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To: Colofornian
a graduate assistant saw Sandusky assaulting a boy in a school shower...

There's something I don't understand about this story that I haven't found in the coverage for days. What was a "boy" (or "boys") doing in the shower at Penn State in the first place?

28 posted on 11/09/2011 7:44:04 PM PST by fullchroma
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To: dfwgator
It is going to be an absolute circus this Saturday,

Could even be a good drinking game.

For every "PEDO STATE" banner or t-shirt you see in the stands, take a drink!

29 posted on 11/09/2011 7:44:09 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Colofornian
Homosexuals are a protected species. You cannot look upon their actions and declare, "That is wrong". It is risky to condemn them.

Of course, when it all hits the fan, people will demand, "Why didn't you do something?? Didn't you know how wrong that was??"

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. PC is cultural Marxism, and it is intended to create a dysfunctional society.

Mission accomplished.

30 posted on 11/09/2011 7:44:12 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (I won't vote for Romney. I won't vote for Perry.)
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To: VicVega

If I was a parent of any of those students, I would be at that campus bringing them home until this cools off. Kids, even the smart ones, don’t always think with cool heads. and groupthink in a highly charged situation like this, will create nothing more than a mob. Get your kids home for a week. Better yet, the school should take the leadership in this and cancel all school activity for a week and send kids home...a cooling off period.


31 posted on 11/09/2011 7:44:13 PM PST by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: GreaterSwiss

so why didn’t Paterno call the cops instead of helping to cover this crap up? what a scumbag


32 posted on 11/09/2011 7:44:18 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Colofornian

“I’m a Lion and I’m okay, I work all night and I sleep all day....”


33 posted on 11/09/2011 7:44:50 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: chasio649; Rushmore Rocks

These were at risk kids - so broken homes, absent fathers or even mothers - easy prey. Often the kids don’t tell their mothers what is going on so you can’t blame the parent in this case. One mother did notice her son had wet hair and questioned him - he said he showered with Sandusky and she did notify the police. It appears that big college money/power tends to make even local cops look the other way. No one did the right thing for these kids.


34 posted on 11/09/2011 7:45:23 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: airborne

Riot Police are in place on campus right now, with a large crowd assembling...


35 posted on 11/09/2011 7:45:40 PM PST by Rational Thought
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To: Colofornian; All

Police in riot gear deal with Penn State students gathering to support Joe Paterno

STATE COLLEGE — More than a thousand Penn State students are moving between the campus and downtown, chanting in support of football coach Joe Paterno, whose job has been questioned over his handling of sex-abuse allegations involving a former coach.

Former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky is facing charges he sexually assaulted eight boys over a 15-year period.

Crowds began to gather around 10 p.m. on Beaver Avenue. After police in riot gear told them to move along, the students moved to Old Main. They sang the alma mater, professed their love for Paterno and profanely denounced Sandusky. They pointed toward Penn State president Graham Spanier’s still-lit office. Then, after a brief “back to Beaver” chant, the crowd returned to Beaver Avenue.

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/police_in_riot_gear_deal_with.html


36 posted on 11/09/2011 7:45:58 PM PST by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

ping


37 posted on 11/09/2011 7:46:08 PM PST by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: airborne

For once the media may prove useful. They are reportedly camped outside Sandusky’s house 24/7.


38 posted on 11/09/2011 7:46:16 PM PST by free me (heartless)
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To: Colofornian

Trustees at Miami U should have fired the troll Donna Shalala.


39 posted on 11/09/2011 7:46:53 PM PST by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: eyedigress
Let's see if I have this straight: Grad Student sees the reprehensible act, leaves and tells father instead of yelling "hey, stop!", then dad tells Paterno something. Paterno has no direct knowledge of the event nor do we know exactly how it was described to Paterno. For all we know, dad downplayed it. Yet we assume Joe knew enough to make a direct complaint to the cops.

Nevertheless, Paterno timely passes along these 2nd party allegations to the AD who has the duty to investigate and report. We don't know how often Joe followed up with the AD nor do we know what the AD told Joe about the progress of the investigation. But everyone is certain that Paterno should have called the cops with unsubstantiated hearsay.

Should Paterno have done more? probably. But the truth is that right now we and most of the commentators commenting don't know what Joe knew when this was playing out in real time. That doesn't seem to stop anyone though.

Let's back up to when the Dad told Joe. Joe's advice to the kid should have been "you need to make a report about what you saw."

40 posted on 11/09/2011 7:46:53 PM PST by NonValueAdded (At 4 AM, it is a test; at 2 PM, it is a demonstration)
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To: chasio649

Yes, many questions. The first being, when Sandusky left the team in ‘99, what was the reason? Did Paterno know? Did the sports writers know? As usual, the media is creating a firestorm while at the same time covering for these creeps by not reporting what they really know.


41 posted on 11/09/2011 7:46:54 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: airborne
He’s been court ordered to stay away from his own grand kids

Yeah, like that matters to a guy who set up a foundation to find troubled kids to exploit. Since he set this group up in 1977, I fear the victim list is going to number over a thousand.

42 posted on 11/09/2011 7:47:02 PM PST by Never on my watch (WTF happened to my country?)
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To: Colofornian

Hurry, someone tell Ole’ Miss there is a good coach that is in need of a new job.


43 posted on 11/09/2011 7:47:13 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: SueRae

I really think they should forfeit the rest of the season, allow the players to transfer, bring in a whole new regime, maybe even take next season off, because there is no way they could overhaul the program and be ready to be competitive by next season.


44 posted on 11/09/2011 7:47:20 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
This will be like a death in my family. Rural PA took much of their identity from JoePa and Penn State.

And that is what is sad, so many people know everything there is to know about a coach or team, but can't tell you squat about what goes on in today's government or economy. Their only source of news, and I have a few family members like this, only comes from the sports pages.

45 posted on 11/09/2011 7:47:46 PM PST by voicereason (The average American doesn't need sex......Obama is already screwing them daily.)
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To: fullchroma
Sandusky founded The Second Mile charity in 1977, working with at-risk youths

Got it. Never mind my previous post. I assume these were the assaulted kids.

46 posted on 11/09/2011 7:48:02 PM PST by fullchroma
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To: Dengar01

Kinda par for the course in PA.


47 posted on 11/09/2011 7:48:29 PM PST by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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I’m no expert on crime but if Paterno knew this was going on and didn’t say a word, can’t he be charged with something?


48 posted on 11/09/2011 7:48:29 PM PST by Kevin in California
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To: Rational Thought

Liberals all. You can’t defend this unless you are a sadistic freak.


49 posted on 11/09/2011 7:49:00 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Dengar01

Kinda par for the course in PA. I mean the whole mysterious death thing not the kiddie thing.


50 posted on 11/09/2011 7:49:00 PM PST by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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