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Penn State trustees fire football coach Joe Paterno and PSU president Spanier
AP/Newser.com ^ | Nov. 9, 2011 | Genaro C. Armas

Posted on 11/09/2011 7:30:27 PM PST by Colofornian

Penn State trustees fired football coach Joe Paterno and university president Graham Spanier (SPAN-yer) amid the growing furor over how the school handled sex abuse allegations against an assistant coach.

The massive shakeup Wednesday night came hours after Paterno announced that he planned to retire at the end of his 46th season.

But the outcry following the arrest of former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky on molestation charges proved too much for the board to ignore.

One key question has been why Paterno and other top school officials didn't go to police in 2002 after being told a graduate assistant saw Sandusky assaulting a boy in a school shower...

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: fired; grahamspanier; jerrysandusky; joepaterno; paterno; pennstate; pennsylvania; sandusky; spanier
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To: Teacher317
The statute of limitations have NOT expired per PA law:

Serious sex crimes such as rape carry a statute of limitations of twelve years. When a sexual offense is committed against a minor, however, the statute of limitations does not start until in the minor reaches the age of eighteen.

151 posted on 11/09/2011 8:26:22 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Lmo56

It will not make it to next week.


152 posted on 11/09/2011 8:26:59 PM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must...)
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To: rintense
This will affect every single college and university. College football will never be the same.

yes, because no other college sport has ever had a scandal before. *rolling eyes*. One guy, nine years ago, did something bad... And so many people want to punish tens of thousands of others who were not involved, all to assuage their feelings in an orgy of plitically-correct lashing out. Pathetic.

153 posted on 11/09/2011 8:27:21 PM PST by Teacher317 (really?)
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To: airborne

Absolutely! This isn’t about the football team and university. It’s about ruined lives and failure to act.


154 posted on 11/09/2011 8:27:22 PM PST by Born Conservative
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To: conservativebabe
It was his MO. He used the practice to his advantage. Hence, his MO.

I was very well aware what the OP intended to state, as I am aware of the definition of MO. The phrasing used in the original comment was poor in that it insinuated that telling a student athlete to shower "whether they were sweaty or not" was peculiar or wrong. Him taking advantage of a child in the shower was wrong - instructing athletes to shower is not. I made it clear that I was not busting the OP's chops - just clarifying a poorly worded statement.

You may return to your 3rd grade regurgitation of the obvious.

155 posted on 11/09/2011 8:27:32 PM PST by RobertClark ("Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: rintense

PSU will clean house. That’s obvious. The Big Ten needs to just see what remains.


156 posted on 11/09/2011 8:27:35 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

100% correct. And it will get worse. It always does.


157 posted on 11/09/2011 8:27:53 PM PST by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: Teacher317
And NINE YEARS later, we sacrifice one of the best coaches in history, all for the glory of political correctness.

And because Joe ignored the problem many little boys were raped in the butt during that time.

158 posted on 11/09/2011 8:28:23 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

Me neither! Well said.


159 posted on 11/09/2011 8:28:25 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Teacher317

CHILDREN WERE ANALLY RAPED IN THE PENN STATE LOCKER ROOM.....what part of that do you not understand?


160 posted on 11/09/2011 8:28:34 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: airborne

Was it the same DA?


161 posted on 11/09/2011 8:28:47 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: flintsilver7
Hooray for reactionary hyperbole! Will you be leading the Cain lynch mob later as well?

Lol!

Is that you, Joe?

162 posted on 11/09/2011 8:29:20 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Teacher317

You are a low life piece of trash for defending a man and a school who stood by and did NOTHING while innocent boys were being raped over several years. You’re almost as vile as Sandusky.


163 posted on 11/09/2011 8:29:29 PM PST by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: airborne

Sandusky should be in prison with extra shower privileges and no rope for his soap.


164 posted on 11/09/2011 8:29:34 PM PST by Born Conservative
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To: dfwgator
If this happened at Florida, you can bet I wouldn’t be “dfwgator” anymore.

And I would burn my #15 jersey!

165 posted on 11/09/2011 8:30:31 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: Colofornian
The dirt bag goes down, thinking football is more important than those little boys. Damn,
166 posted on 11/09/2011 8:30:56 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Teacher317
Obviously, you do not teach ethics, you POS.
167 posted on 11/09/2011 8:31:24 PM PST by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: NonValueAdded
Here is Joe's side of what was said to him:

The graduate assistant went to his office and called his
father, reporting to him what he
had seen. His father told the graduate assistant to leave the building and come to his home. The graduate assistant and his father decided that the graduate assistant had to report what
he had seen to Coach Joe Paterno ("Paterno"), head football coach of Penn State.

The next morning, a Saturday, the graduate assistant telephoned Paterno and went to Paterno's home, where he reported what he had seen. Joseph V. Paterno testified to receiving the graduate assistant's report at his home on a Saturday morning. Paterno testified that the graduate assistant was very upset. Paterno called Tim Curley ("Curley"), Penn State Athletic Director and Paterno's immediate superior, to his home the very next day, a Sunday, and reported to him that the graduate assistant had seen Jerry Sandusky in the Lasch Building showers fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy.

From page 7 of the grand jury report.

168 posted on 11/09/2011 8:31:29 PM PST by free me (heartless)
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To: didi

The grand jury report is not hard to find. Try google.

Just don’t eat anything before reading it.


169 posted on 11/09/2011 8:31:32 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: 07Jack

FINALLY. I’m tired of hearing of Joe Pa. Joe Pa couldn’t have enabled all this on his own for over a decade. The entire system was looking the other way. Take them all down.


170 posted on 11/09/2011 8:31:32 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: NewinTexsas

Tebow would help you burn it.


171 posted on 11/09/2011 8:31:35 PM PST by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: Colofornian
Sad, but well deserved ending to a long career.

Paterno and Mike McQueary may be "legally" right, but both were morally wrong in this, as was the AD and all those in the chain of command.

It's time to clean house. Paterno is fired, so should McQueary. They all majorly effed up and took the easy way out. McQueary witnessed Sandusky in the shower raping a boy. McQueary tells Paterno. Paterno tells the AD. Nothing else happens. That's it.

Clean house.

172 posted on 11/09/2011 8:32:05 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Anybody but Romney or Obama)
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To: LeonardFMason
Wasn't there a recent mandate for schools in California to teach children in the elementary grades about the accomplishments of GLBTQ-Americans?

Well, young persons, here's a story about Jerry Sandusky and what he has accomplished...

The common thread is exposing children to perversion, whether in the classroom, presented as tolerance and relativism or in the *ahem* "lab" of a school shower. Both are sickening.

"The philosophy of the schoolroom in one generation, will be the philosophy of government in the next." A. Lincoln

God help us.

173 posted on 11/09/2011 8:32:27 PM PST by irgbar-man
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To: SueRae
"I could elaborate on an experience of my own in my younger years..."

I'm a female, and when I was in 8th grade in 1960, I became friends with a female student, also in 8th grade. We began chumming around. One day she told me a secret. She said that her step-father was making her watch porno movies, then making her dress-up, and perform the sex scenes in the movies with him. She told me that one time after he made her give him a BJ, she had saved his sperm in a jar. She asked me not to say anything to anyone about it. I was shocked, and had a hard time getting it out of my head. My conscience bothered me terribly, and little time went by before I went to the girl's guidance counselor. Back then, that's all they had. I told her what my friend had told me, then when I had the chance, I told my friend what I had done and why. She asked me what I thought would happen now, and I told her I hoped they would lock her step-father up. As it turned out, my friend was removed from her home and put in foster care. Her mother didn't believe the charges, and supported her husband. There was a younger brother in the household as well. I only spoke to my friend one other time while she was in foster care, and we lost contact.

After graduation I went to work for the county's child welfare department as a clerk. When I had the chance, I went in the old files and found her record, read the transcripts of interviews she'd had with her social worker. From what I recall, the step-father was charged, admitted to it, and was placed on probation. My friends life was ruined by a pervert. He basically walks off scott-free, and she's the one removed from the home, and shunned by her mother. I often wonder how the rest of her life has gone, and hope that she was able to find some happiness.

174 posted on 11/09/2011 8:32:38 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: free me
"McQueary is a big guy too."

Regardless of his physical stature, Mc-Queer-y is a very small man.

175 posted on 11/09/2011 8:33:38 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: God luvs America
So the students are also perverts.
176 posted on 11/09/2011 8:33:45 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: rintense

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/sports/ncaafootball/aftermath-of-1998-sandusky-investigation-raises-additional-questions.html

Here’s more on the 1998 incidents


177 posted on 11/09/2011 8:33:50 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: eyedigress

Oh, I understand. And JoePa should have been fired along with a lot of others. And some time should be served.

But what I’m saying is the non action of JoePa will hurt the team he’s loved for 46 years.


178 posted on 11/09/2011 8:35:43 PM PST by Terry Mross (Where is the OPPOSITION party? I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: Colofornian

About damn time.


179 posted on 11/09/2011 8:36:07 PM PST by Soul Seeker (I will work every day to make Washington, D.C., as inconsequential in your lives as I can - Perry)
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To: Terry Mross

Yes it will.


180 posted on 11/09/2011 8:36:45 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Teacher317
Here moron let me be graphic, and I guarantee this post will not be deleted.

10 year old boy. Most likely prepubescent, no knowledge of heterosexual sex let alone gay sex. His anus was probably extremely small to the penis that penetrated his anus.

Someone witnessed the rape of the 10 year old boy and immediately reported it.

Then a 13 year old boy, (not sure where he was in puberty) was getting oral sex by the gay pedophile. A janitor witnessed it and reported it.

Penn State, including JoePa covered it up.

Some folks blamed the parents, well in 1998 parents of one victim filed charges and a DA dismissed the charges.

In 2005 that same DA went "missing", in June of 2011 he was declared "legally dead". That's something in a Mafia Movie from Hollywood.

Now we have witnesses who saw a 10 year old boy anally raped, a 13 year old boy given oral sex, and the hierarchy at Penn State was fully aware of this. But football takes priority.

What if this pervert POS raped your son if you even have children which I doubt. Anyone with kids of their own are as protective of their children as a grizzly bear or mountain lion.

There is one specific group of people who don't have children, they use children as sexual toys. That is a fact!

181 posted on 11/09/2011 8:37:35 PM PST by Dengar01 (Dengar01 - "Heartless" since 1983!!!)
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To: RobertClark

Wow didn’t realize my post required a paragraph response.

I’ll be over here in my third grade seat watching you be impressed with yourself.


182 posted on 11/09/2011 8:37:44 PM PST by conservativebabe
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To: airborne

Ask the guys at NAMBLA


183 posted on 11/09/2011 8:37:54 PM PST by InvisibleChurch ( go in peace , serve the Lord)
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To: Rushmore Rocks

Some did. Read the report. One even got cops to hide in their home to hear Sandusky’s confession. the police questionably shut the case down soon after.


184 posted on 11/09/2011 8:38:10 PM PST by Soul Seeker (I will work every day to make Washington, D.C., as inconsequential in your lives as I can - Perry)
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To: Teacher317
One guy, nine years ago, did something bad... ....

awwww you poor thing

you sound like a broken record

185 posted on 11/09/2011 8:38:10 PM PST by SunnyUsa ( It is error alone which needs the support of government.Truth can stand by itself. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: NewinTexsas

I believe Teacher317 plays for the other team...


186 posted on 11/09/2011 8:38:33 PM PST by Dengar01 (Dengar01 - "Heartless" since 1983!!!)
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To: rintense
Then, not long after, Sandusky ‘retired’ but was still allowed access to PSU facilities for his camps.

I've been wondering why Sandusky retired when he did, a fairly early retirement by most standards. I expect some more information will come out about that and more dots will be connected in the coming days.

187 posted on 11/09/2011 8:38:38 PM PST by Will88
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To: irgbar-man

God help us.

Look at the damage ONE HOMOSEXUAL pedophile can do! PSU is in meltdown because of ONE fiend who only raped young boys.

BTW, this fiend is out on bail AND still walks the streets of State College. No doubt, fantasizing and scheming about the next boy he can rape.


188 posted on 11/09/2011 8:38:47 PM PST by LeonardFMason
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To: rintense
"How and the HELL did Paterno not know this was going on!!!!"

From what I told by another Freeper, "most of the kids were from a charity fund that Sandusky had set up for neglected, no father figure etc." The question is, was Paterno involved in this charity program.

189 posted on 11/09/2011 8:40:03 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Teacher317

It’s got nothing to do with political correctness. It has to do with THE RAPE OF A CHILD. That child is more important than football. He should have called the police.


190 posted on 11/09/2011 8:40:08 PM PST by BAW (No Romney.)
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To: Dengar01
I believe Teacher317 plays for the other team...

Which "position"?

191 posted on 11/09/2011 8:40:52 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: Flycatcher

Oh good God - the students are reacting to news that their coach is being fired and most probably don’t have a clue about the facts. But the entire school isn’t to blame - a child molester and those men who covered for him are being rightfully fired or prosecuted. Blaming the entire student body and faculty is like blaming every person who has a 401K for the collapse of the market


192 posted on 11/09/2011 8:40:56 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: gimme1ibertee
Hopefully this will help: http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Press/Sandusky-Grand-Jury-Presentment.pdf

There is not a word about Paterno in the Grand Jury Presentment.

193 posted on 11/09/2011 8:40:58 PM PST by Kennard
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
This will be like a death in my family. Rural PA took much of their identity from JoePa and Penn State. They always held their heads up because they might be never-graduated coal miners but they were also Penn State.

Exactly the same situation for my coal-mining and associated PA relatives. This is HUGE for them.

194 posted on 11/09/2011 8:41:04 PM PST by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: NonValueAdded

Everyone is dirty in this.

I would be willing to give the benefit of doubt to every one except for Second Mile. We could assume they all thought the investigation was fruitless.

Once Sandusky starts with Second Mile, which had a high profile, they all should have thought to themselves “oh shoot” and followed up again.

I think Paterno comes from a generation that chooses not to think about these things unless they have to.

He seems like a good man, and the reality of what happened will probably haunt him, if not kill him.


195 posted on 11/09/2011 8:41:14 PM PST by laxcoach (Government is greedy. Taxpayers who want their own money are not greedy.)
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To: Will88

I remember at the time Sandusky was considered a legendary defensive coach, he was as lauded as Paterno was. Because of Sandusky, Penn State was called “Linebacker U”, there are several NFL Hall of Famers, who literally owed their careers to Sandusky.


196 posted on 11/09/2011 8:41:24 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: BAW

“That child is more important than football.”

Those children are more important than football.


197 posted on 11/09/2011 8:41:36 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: rintense
Hyperbole much? Get a grip. A crime happened. That doesn't mean you bulldoze an entire university. Again, punishing 1,000 (or more) people for the vile acts of one man makes no sense whatsoever. What amazes me is that everyone is focused on JoPa and the admins... Compare the number of times they are mentioned compared to the actual perpetrators name. That should tell you something. The fact that it was NINE years ago should tell you something. The fact that the families did not come forward until the news wagons were out front should tell you something. The fact that otherwise rational people on this very thread are calling for the entire university to be shut down should tell you something.. The immediate hyper-overreaction simply based on the fact that we've been taught to instantly hate when wwe hear the words "child sex crimes" should tell you something. The fact that you accuse people you don't know of being he equivalent of such file criminals should tell you something.

Or do we simply abandon all reason when our masters in the media say the magic words? Just wondering.

198 posted on 11/09/2011 8:42:03 PM PST by Teacher317 (really?)
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To: Colofornian

Wow is the first thought that comes to mind. One can’t believe that this is the way it all ends for Joe Paterno but the trustees clearly made the only decision they could make. How on earth PSU is going to be able to get up and play Nebraska this saturday and then travel to Ohio State is beyond me. Talk about a season going up in smoke.


199 posted on 11/09/2011 8:42:42 PM PST by fkabuckeyesrule
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To: didi

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/11/06/sports/ncaafootball/20111106-pennstate-document.html

or

http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Press/Sandusky-Grand-Jury-Presentment.pdf


200 posted on 11/09/2011 8:43:01 PM PST by free me (heartless)
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