Skip to comments.Penn State trustees fire football coach Joe Paterno and PSU president Spanier
Posted on 11/09/2011 7:30:27 PM PST by Colofornian
Penn State trustees fired football coach Joe Paterno and university president Graham Spanier (SPAN-yer) amid the growing furor over how the school handled sex abuse allegations against an assistant coach.
The massive shakeup Wednesday night came hours after Paterno announced that he planned to retire at the end of his 46th season.
But the outcry following the arrest of former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky on molestation charges proved too much for the board to ignore.
One key question has been why Paterno and other top school officials didn't go to police in 2002 after being told a graduate assistant saw Sandusky assaulting a boy in a school shower...
(Excerpt) Read more at newser.com ...
We're not only talking "liability" re: civil suits, but pre-empting a loose talker like Paterno from giving even more ammo to those lawyers who will be filing suit.
Paterno was already making statements today about "in hindsight, he wished he had done more" without being able to qualify that for better or worse. I mean what does that mean? My guess is that will probably be Question #1 at every deposition he will attend in the future...and there will be many.
So school mottos are now the guiding principles for investigations into child rape? Is that a good thing?
Anyone who knew - or even had grave suspicions - that any child had been raped and did not immediately go to the police and make sure that the perp was not only removed from any position whereby he could continue his ruination of little boys WAS GUILTY!
There is only one important thing here. Horrible crimes were committed against children. And no one did a damned thing to stop it, for years.
The whole sports thing can go to hell. It means nothing compared to the rapes of little boys. NOTHING.
“Im surprise so many comments more concerned about sports, reputations, and the like. Very surprised.”
Bread and circuses...
And your LIE that “few are condemnging the molester” is an outright lie. Why are you lying?
Not only that, but the hard drive was removed from his laptop, and destroyed so badly that no data could be recovered from it by expert data recovery firms.
This stinks to high heaven.
You can't do an end run around your foundation. What liberty has he lost? The right to work? No. He can beat the job fairs like the 10% of unemployed out there & look for a job...I don't know of any "We won't hire Joe Paterno" companies out there. Do you?
This thread, had you the ability to read, is about one of the Enablers.
That is the topic, yet still (despite the little quip you just tried to make) Sandusky keeps being brought into the discussion in a most unfavorable light.
Literate people are capable of addressing the thread topic when they comment on an article.
Teachers these days, not so much.
Or you are grasping for a straw.
Here’s my two fiat cents on this matter:
*The NCAA must give Penn State the “Death Penalty” immediately and the penalty should be at least three years. All wins this year should be vacated.
*The NCAA must remove Joe Paterno from the record books or at least mention this scandal in the record book next to his name.
(And thank you for replying rationally. The personal insults were starting to get to me LOL. Even a thick-skinned former HS teacher can eventually get their buttons pushed!)
Nine years ago? You haven’t read the grand jury report, have you?
“The fact that the law didn’t bring charges against Sandusky is one of the things that make me feel sympathetic towards the position Paterno found himself in.”
Then you OBVIOUSLY have not spent much time dealing with major, ste-run Universities, outside of the classroom....
A few people even talked.
But ultimately it got swept under the rug for years because of the rush to Saturday, those autumn game days when people funnel MONEY into Happy Valley for the biggest thing in the state. Can’t harm the brand, after all.
Spanier, like many other big-time college Presidents is/was so much like a KING in his domain. No one DARES to question him, and EVERYONE sucks up to him.
His word is law on Campus, and especially in the town around. You dont want to have your biz, or your campaign for local office BLACK-LISTED by the liberals running the school, do you?
Your sister needs a job? We might have something in Administration for her, IF you play along...
This is as much a problem of the Culture that allowed it, as it is the scandal itself.
NO cheers, unfortunately.
I think you misread it... : “A public employees liberty interest can be triggered by a discharge under certain publicly stigmatizing”. He HAS been fired. The circumstances, as you admit, ARE publicly stigmatizing. Therefore, he has ALREADY had his liberty interests raised, just today. He has nothing else to establish, and does not need to try to get any other employment. I’m no labor lawyer, but that’s how I read that passage and apply it to these facts.
NO cheers, unfortunately.
Wow that speaks volumes. I am still zoning in on the attorney. I am sure he was making recommendations to others of what they should and should not do, say and not say. Still would of not stopped me when it comes down to right and wrong.
NO cheers, unfortunately.
Well, yeah...but where does that mean Penn State would fall on a continuum here...especially in light of Rintense's comment @ 118:
"I'm a Michigan State alum. My boss is a U of M alum. And we had a very heated talk today about all this- heated because we were in complete agreement that had this happened at either of our schools, and had been handled as poorly, etc. we'd be protesting every single day on campus and never wear a single school color again. I went a step farther and said I'd chuck my framed diploma at the admin building and tell them to burn in hell. It IS that bad out there."
I mean if the Michigan schools had done this, it sounds like the alumni would be so up in arms that you might have massive protests...Yet @ Penn State, the students were seemingly more concerned with their local cultural god, Joe Paterno, than they were the victims.
Sounds to me like on a continuum, Penn State ranks a LOT closer to your San Francisco State example than on the other end of the continuum, Michigan or Michigan State.
Oh, and btw, there IS another Big 10 university that "outpedophiles" Penn State: Indiana University.