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Police in riot gear deal with Penn State students gathering to support Joe Paterno
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Posted on 11/09/2011 7:48:07 PM PST by God luvs America

STATE COLLEGE -- More than a thousand Penn State students are moving between the campus and downtown, chanting in support of football coach Joe Paterno, whose job has been questioned over his handling of sex-abuse allegations involving a former coach.

Crowds began to gather around 10 p.m. on Beaver Avenue. After police in riot gear told them to move along, the students moved to Old Main. They sang the alma mater, professed their love for Paterno and profanely denounced Sandusky. They pointed toward Penn State president Graham Spanier's still-lit office. Then, after a brief "back to Beaver" chant, the crowd returned to Beaver Avenue.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: grahamspanier; jerrysandusky; joepaterno; paterno; pedstate; pennstate; pennsylvania; psu; spanier
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To: God luvs America; All

Wow. Hmm ... Paterno is well loved. Sigh. What a mess.

Too bad this whole thing didn’t blow sky high the first day Paterno learned of it some nine years ago. He should have fought to get Sandusky off PSU property and blown the whistle on him in every sector unceasingly till the guy had NO access to children anywhere. His having done anything else, sadly, implicates him as somehow having condoned it or having looked the other way.

What

a

mess

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It’s a little late, but at least PSU is sending a clear message (finally) that victimization of innocent children is wrong and they will have no part of it.

Seriously, this should have happened nine or more years ago.

Never thought I’d see the day Paterno got fired. He has got to have been one of the most loved college football coaches ever.


51 posted on 11/09/2011 8:26:33 PM PST by Joya (http://www.angelsonassignment.org/why_aoa.html)
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To: volunbeer

Football is not just a matter of honor and integrity: it’s much more important than that.


52 posted on 11/09/2011 8:28:19 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (New gets old. Steampunk is always cool)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

In case you missed it 3 people aside from Paterno are already gone including the President who was fired tonight along with Joe. I expect the former grad student and now offensive coach will be joining them and there may be more. These are the names known now. Joe is hardly the only one being singled out, he’s just the most high profile. Well, other then Sandusky who everyone knows now.

Don’t defend him. I’m not in the mood. If a coach at Ohio can be fired for covering for students who sold their own memorbilia then damn well a coach with the power of Paterno informed of Sandusky’s activities years ago can be and should be fired. Best thing he can do is pull his head out of his....and realize it’s not about his university or football program. It’s about those kids. If he wants to make amends then spend that time he was in press boxes and sidelines on working to help prevent child abuse.


53 posted on 11/09/2011 8:32:40 PM PST by Soul Seeker (I will work every day to make Washington, D.C., as inconsequential in your lives as I can - Perry)
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To: Joya
Too bad this whole thing didn’t blow sky high the first day Paterno learned of it some nine years ago

He helped cover up the pervert's activities some twelve years ago.

54 posted on 11/09/2011 8:32:58 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (New gets old. Steampunk is always cool)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
He reported it to the campus police. Why not make your complaint to them, the athletic department head, the school president, the district attorney - all who have more authority than Joe. Why single him out and not the ones with authority?

My wife used to work for a well known university. The football coach was paid more than the president. Paterno only reported this to the AD. Paterno is the power at Penn State U State Pen U. He punted.

55 posted on 11/09/2011 8:33:59 PM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Joya

sending a message or trying to cover their bare a$$??


56 posted on 11/09/2011 8:34:32 PM PST by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: volunbeer

Well said. Worth repeating.

“A man of honor and integrity does not simply report the abuse of a child. A man of honor and integrity puts the safety and welfare of children above his career, football program, and school.

“Hope that makes sense..... this story is so disgusting on so many levels it is unimaginable. Failure to report the abuse of children is horrible. Not reporting it when you know the abuser continues to have access to vulnerable children is unforgiveable.”


57 posted on 11/09/2011 8:36:00 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Clearly you are clueless. Stop posting and save yourself the embarrassment.


58 posted on 11/09/2011 8:36:54 PM PST by Round 9
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To: God luvs America
We Are...Pedo State.

Sheesh...go home students and light a bong. That would be better than what you're doing now.

59 posted on 11/09/2011 8:37:46 PM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must...)
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To: SueRae

I respectfully disagree (althoughI understand where you are coming from). This is a disgusting crime and coverup but this sort of thing does happen in our society and life goes on. Those kids should not miss one hour of school IMO. They are there for an education. And based on the support for this coverup coach it doesn’t sound like these kids are traumatized about the crime and victims but worried about some stupid coach.


60 posted on 11/09/2011 8:38:23 PM PST by plain talk
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To: jarofants

Good line - Leno will steal it.


61 posted on 11/09/2011 8:42:35 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: God luvs America
So a thousand penn students support child abuse, they need to put that on their job applications.
62 posted on 11/09/2011 8:44:18 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: jarofants

Afraid not. He broke no law.

Keep trying with the puns that actually make sense.


63 posted on 11/09/2011 8:46:11 PM PST by JosephMama (First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. Cain 2012)
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To: MinorityRepublican
"Penn State head coach Joe Paterno is greeted by hundreds of students at his house as he returns home from practice. "

Our son is in that photo. We've been in touch with him all evening, and we're glad that he has the sense to stay away from the angry crowd. He and his friends are keeping it civilized. They understand that they're representing their university community with their actions and words. Fortunately, most of these young adults are behaving with grace during a very difficult time. In the long run, I believe that they and the school will end up stronger.

64 posted on 11/09/2011 8:47:30 PM PST by Think free or die
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To: manc
Well a lot more than that, there is the little problem of the dead/missing DA, that started the first investigation.
65 posted on 11/09/2011 8:48:11 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Are you really serious? Nothing happened within the athletic department without Joe Paternos’ explicit or implicit approval. He was and obviously still is held up as some sort of god.


66 posted on 11/09/2011 8:49:18 PM PST by mrsloungitude ( USMC Mom)
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To: Oztrich Boy

I’m sick over this, to think of the sweet children being harmed, the ONLY appropriate response to learning of such is to detonate the whole thing.

Child molesters should be castrated and have “Sex Offender” tattooed on their faces.

Anyone covering up for a child molester is despicable.

Cherishing and protecting the innocence of children is a component of human decency and of utmost priority superseding ALL other concerns.

I am ill over this. My heart is wrenched to think of the kids harmed.


67 posted on 11/09/2011 8:49:23 PM PST by Joya (http://www.angelsonassignment.org/why_aoa.html)
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To: deweyfrank

“Truly stupid kids. Our future leaders?”

AGREED!!!!! My 16 yr old daughter said nonchalantly walking by the tv when this was on that those kids are idiots. By supporting the coach they are condoning what he did.
My 17 yr old son feels the same...it feels good to know I am raising them the right way with the right mind set....I would be embarrassed if I knew my kid was in that crowd.


68 posted on 11/09/2011 8:51:02 PM PST by oust the louse (Obama approval ratings are so low now, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the United States.)
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To: volunbeer

I could not have said it better myself. I see him smiling as he goes thru the crowd and it makes me ill. He should be hanging his head in shame. He could have and should have done more and did not - why - my guess personal greed. Someday he will meet his maker and have to give his answer....


69 posted on 11/09/2011 8:55:14 PM PST by MissH
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To: Joya

Looks like he wasn’t the man many people thought he was.


70 posted on 11/09/2011 8:58:54 PM PST by MissH
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To: SueRae

If those holier-than-thou morons had ANY sense, they’d have let Joe finish the season. I’ll bet that some or all of THEM had heard about the Sandusky perversions on campus as well. Bob


71 posted on 11/09/2011 9:01:26 PM PST by alstewartfan ("And your oarsman stands with his knife in hand, and his eyes spell 'Mutiny'" Al Stewart)
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To: Oztrich Boy
He helped cover up the perverts activities some twelve years ago.

That accusation is being made by more than a few members of the media. As of now, I've seen nothing factual to support these claims.

What we have is a horrifying Grand Jury report, a DA (Ray Gricar) who had investigated Sandusky who later went missing and a media making lots of accusations.

I don't know what to think but I'm reluctant to consider Paterno tried and convicted based upon media reports. I don't know why I just don't trust the media?

72 posted on 11/09/2011 9:01:53 PM PST by Rational Thought
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To: Think free or die; Pharmboy; Slings and Arrows; martin_fierro; jarofants; dfwgator; Chode; ...

Apparently, Penn State’s fight song is “Boys Don’t Cry”.


73 posted on 11/09/2011 9:01:58 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.)
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To: God luvs America

... well ...

that too ...

= = =
As for the students, let’s all remember these are good hearted kids, ahem, as in, THON, the biggest college level fundraiser in America, every year, on behalf of kids with cancer.

They love their football but they also have HEART.

THON.

I don’t want to hear any crap about the students condoning child abuse. They love Joe and they are upset. They’re good kids.

THON.


74 posted on 11/09/2011 9:03:20 PM PST by Joya (http://www.angelsonassignment.org/why_aoa.html)
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To: alstewartfan

I think they did it more for Joe’s own good, it’s not as if he could be entirely focused on coaching, and the atmosphere surrounding the games was going to be a circus had he been on the sidelines....in fact, I won’t be shocked if Penn State doesn’t wind up just going ahead and forfeiting the rest of their games this season.


75 posted on 11/09/2011 9:04:34 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: oust the louse
"I would be embarrassed if I knew my kid was in that crowd."

Even within our FR community, there are a lot of disagreements about Joe Paterno's situation. Our son has demonstrated support for the coach while expressing his disgust over the allegations. I can understand that he doesn't think he has all the facts and that we're dealing with someone who has contributed a great deal to the university over many years. As long as his behavior is civilized and respectful, I am not at all embarrassed that he's with students who are supporting the coach. I don't have to agree with all of his opinions to support him in expressing his position - provided it's done respectfully. It's part of growing up.

76 posted on 11/09/2011 9:04:38 PM PST by Think free or die
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To: mrsloungitude

I’ll bet that hundreds, if not THOUSANDS of people on campus knew about Sandusky; now the trustees want to give the impression that they are pure as a wind-driven Democrat. Bob


77 posted on 11/09/2011 9:04:38 PM PST by alstewartfan ("And your oarsman stands with his knife in hand, and his eyes spell 'Mutiny'" Al Stewart)
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http://www.thon.org/


78 posted on 11/09/2011 9:06:02 PM PST by Joya (http://www.angelsonassignment.org/why_aoa.html)
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To: Rational Thought

Local news is saying maybe charges against Paterno next.


79 posted on 11/09/2011 9:06:24 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today:))
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To: bwc2221

Thank you. They are college students. They LOVE Joe Paterno.


80 posted on 11/09/2011 9:07:10 PM PST by Joya (http://www.angelsonassignment.org/why_aoa.html)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

“Darn right. I mean what is the purpose of a university anyway? To play football games of course.
Sickening.”

You forgot Gay and Lesbian Studies. You CANNOT forget Gay and Lesbian Studies...


81 posted on 11/09/2011 9:08:05 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: YankeeDoodleRebel

Penn State Students have the LARGEST fundraiser every year. They are good kids. Their emotional reaction to Paterno’s firing is just that, an emotional reaction. It’s not a statement supporting child molesters.

http://www.thon.org/

THON.


82 posted on 11/09/2011 9:11:01 PM PST by Joya (http://www.angelsonassignment.org/why_aoa.html)
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To: Drill Thrawl

You said, That would be disappeared five years after deciding not to press charges and while in the middle of a couple of major drug investigations.

= = =
Thanks for that clarification.


83 posted on 11/09/2011 9:12:24 PM PST by Joya (http://www.angelsonassignment.org/why_aoa.html)
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To: Born Conservative

Agreed. When he didn’t pursue it, he failed. Disgraceful.


84 posted on 11/09/2011 9:13:50 PM PST by Joya (http://www.angelsonassignment.org/why_aoa.html)
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To: Drill Thrawl

Ray Gricar’s older brother, Roy, disappeared from his West Chester, Ohio home in May 1996. His body was found a week later in the Great Miami River; authorities ruled his death a suicide.

At 11:30 a.m. (EDT) on April 15, 2005, Gricar called Patty Fornicola, his live-in girlfriend, to inform her that he was driving through the Brush Valley area northeast of Centre Hall. Fornicola reported Gricar missing 12 hours later when he failed to return home.

After being missing for over six years with no trace of his whereabouts, Centre County authorities declared Gricar legally dead on July 25, 2011.


85 posted on 11/09/2011 9:14:44 PM PST by kcvl
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To: God luvs America

What should be done to the alleged Child Molester Sandusky?

And why are we not seeing more of his face and learning more about him and his 2nd Mile youth organization where he allegedly sourced and eventually violated 10 year old victims?


86 posted on 11/09/2011 9:15:21 PM PST by TheDailyChange (Politics,Conservatism,Liberalism)
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To: tcrlaf

If Sandusky was after little girls, he’s have been arrested 12 years ago. Homoerotic crimes are covered up, esp. on HS and college campuses.


87 posted on 11/09/2011 9:17:58 PM PST by alstewartfan ("And your oarsman stands with his knife in hand, and his eyes spell 'Mutiny'" Al Stewart)
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To: dfwgator

That’s what I’m thinking. Forfeiture is a real possibility. Bob


88 posted on 11/09/2011 9:19:15 PM PST by alstewartfan ("And your oarsman stands with his knife in hand, and his eyes spell 'Mutiny'" Al Stewart)
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To: Joya

Still, they only love Joe because he was a consistent football winner. Football is everything to tens of millions of misguided Americans.


89 posted on 11/09/2011 9:20:55 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Think free or die

Those students turned over a media van. Great examples they surely are.

I don’t give a damn he won over 400 games. Nothing he does makes up for failing to report this to police and allowing Sandusky to continue to associate with the program.


90 posted on 11/09/2011 9:21:49 PM PST by Soul Seeker (I will work every day to make Washington, D.C., as inconsequential in your lives as I can - Perry)
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To: Theodore R.

I think it was more than just winning football games.....he was also considered to run a clean program, and he had the appearance of being different than all of those other “corrupt” programs.....looks like it turned out to all be an illusion.


91 posted on 11/09/2011 9:23:17 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: God luvs America; All

ESPN reporting live from State College that rioting has begun...

Media van turned over, light poles pulled down.

These are America’s future leaders, folks. Aren’t we so proud of them?


92 posted on 11/09/2011 9:23:32 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: tcrlaf

They need to go ahead and shut the football program down now.


93 posted on 11/09/2011 9:24:20 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: Soul Seeker; mrsloungitude; Round 9
Don’t defend him.

I'm not defending him. I'm pointing out that others have a part in this. I suspect that somewhere in this there is a homophilic element in the power structure that is going undiscussed. I don't think that Joe is the main player in that aspect. Homosexuals have gained a tremendous foothold in the major organizations in society. They make rooting out abusers difficult. This is the unspoken problem in such organizations and by the press. Joe is a convenient scapegoat. He didn't to the pederasty. I doubt he led the cover-up. It's just appealing to knock him off his pedestal and the homos behind the scenes know how to spin the news. Regardless of his reputation and status, he is the coach. He would work for the director of the Athletic Department who works for the President who works for the trustees. I would look for the homo who squashed the story in that bunch.

Round 9. If you don't want to read my posts be my guest. You are a dope if insulting me is all you got.

94 posted on 11/09/2011 9:26:03 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: God luvs America

Poor kids. This is all they have been permitted to believe in and feel unity and pride about. Their football team and college town.

It’s terrible.


95 posted on 11/09/2011 9:26:36 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
LOL
96 posted on 11/09/2011 9:27:27 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: SueRae

My PSU kid is in the dorm studying for the GRE, and very upset about JoePa firing.


97 posted on 11/09/2011 9:28:11 PM PST by OrioleFan
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To: MissH

Yep. When kids are being molested, all bets are off.

Anywhere, everywhere. Churches, schools, colleges, scouts, philanthropic organizations, families, etc.

PSU football is of little importance in comparison to protecting children from a pervert.

This should have blown sky high many years ago.


98 posted on 11/09/2011 9:28:11 PM PST by Joya (http://www.angelsonassignment.org/why_aoa.html)
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To: jjotto

“You do know a previous DA looking into this completely disappeared?”

Glad you brought this up. If I were the family of the DA whose body was never found, I would demand that the now FBI come in and see who was responsible for his death while investigating this sordid situation.


99 posted on 11/09/2011 9:29:04 PM PST by txrefugee
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To: SueRae
This needs to cool off...and highy charged emotional kids,no matter how smart, will only do something stupid. Parents, get there now and get your chidren away from this.

and the hormones are kicking along with that doesn't help. Nor all these OWS protests which have given students a reason to contest just about anything...and many love to come together for any reason at all...it's their nature when away from their homelife.

100 posted on 11/09/2011 9:29:08 PM PST by caww
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