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It is in Obama's Amerika...........
Sadly I agree and I am a BIG fan of Penn State football. I just don’t see how you can do anything else but cancel the season.
“Sadly I agree and I am a BIG fan of Penn State football. I just don’t see how you can do anything else but cancel the season.”
FWIW, I don’t think they will act that quickly.
“Important” people have already made travel plans and bookings already...
They can always vacate wins later.
The next morning, a Saturday, the graduate assistant telephoned Paterno and went to Paterno's home, where he reported what he had seen. Joseph V. Paterno testified to receiving the graduate assistant's report at his home on a Saturday morning. Paterno testified that the graduate assistant was very upset. Paterno called Tim Curley ("Curley"), Penn State Athletic Director and Paterno's immediate superior, to his home the very next day, a Sunday, and reported to him that the graduate assistant had seen Jerry Sandusky in the Lasch Building showers fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy. Approximately one and a half weeks later, the graduate assistant was called to a meeting with Penn State Athletic Director Curley and Senior Vice President for Finance and Business Gary Schultz ("Schultz"). The graduate assistant reported to Curley and Schultz that he had witnessed what he believed to be Sandusky having anal sex with a boy in the Lasch Building showers.
what a bunch of sicko’s , kids , boys have been raped and these sicko’s are mad at the firing of their coach of a football team instead.
This just shows how America has declined when they riot over a football team coach getting fired and not riot of little boys being raped by a homosexual child molester.
Then it seems the school has been ignoring the rapes for years but time will tell for sure on that.
These lunatics and others need to have a word with themselves, they should be more upset with the boys being raped and demanding justice than rioting over a coach being fired.
This crap happens when people stop teaching moral’s and values to their kids and in the schools.
could this be the next revelation?
notice how the media never mention that the man raping boys the same sex is a homosexual.
No the media and the students are more concerned over the firing of a coach and their football team than boys being raped on campus.
SICK.
Time for the GOP or someone to denounce these students and the school and explain how boys were raped at their school over years and the firing of a coach is petty compared.
homosexual child molesters for Paterno.
Heard one student shout “we love you Joe”, and none seem outraged over boys being raped at their school over years.
This is how low and pathetic colleges have become, thankfully my boys will be attending military colleges.
Not only did Paterno not encourage the eyewitness to go to the authorities, Paterno continued to provide Sandusky with access to the Penn State Football facilities.
So yes, Paterno knowingly harbored a child molester.
Well I guess he is gone now after 46 years. Why can’t he at least get a retirement ceremony? Sure he didn’t do more but one day erases 46 years???
Yup. Same as 1 BIG mistake.
A couple weeks ago I was having dinner with some friends who are not all that well aquatinted with college football. I explained to them who Paterno was and stated the he was the only upstanding coach in the top tier of NCAA football.
I bragged about his high graduation rates, his donations to Penn State etc, etc.
I’m not a Penn State fan, but have always had great respect for that program.
And no it comes out that he knowingly harbored a boy f’er!
The gravity of this scandal is so great that Penn State should take the additional step of canceling the remainder of their season.
Rioting for the sake of rioting. Just like the OWS, protesting for the sake of protesting. No real message, no real ideas. They just want to bring back the 1960’s. This is Obama and the Left’s fault.
I remember that!
what is tragic is the fact he thought it ok to “sleep on” reporting the rape of a 10 year old CHILD. and even more tragic that you think that was ok.
I, even being a weakling female, would have played Lorena Bobbit and let him bleed to death BEFORE I called the police.
no, one day after one day after another....times 4745.
birds of a feather flock together comes to mind. nothing else explains your staunch support
“This is exactly like Duke where they are making knee jerk decisions. Joe did the right thing at the time with what was given to him. A grad student went to him about a possible situation and he went to the Athletic Director who went to the school who investigated and found NOTHING to it. How do we know that this is all a lie and the parents are trying to get money from the school.”
Bull. With PSU, a three year investigation culminated in sworn, consistent grand jury testimony from multiple witnesses, resulting in an indictment. The witnesses, including Paterno, admit that in 2002, McQueary - who had no motive to lie - reported the rape incident to them. According to you, they “did the right thing”: None of them called police, but left Sandusky with access to the facilities for another 9 years.
With Duke, there was no corroboration; no consistent story; and no admissions.
There WERE: alibis; an illegal photo array made up only of Duke players; and an elected prosecutor going before the media and lying about the evidence, when he knew there was no DNA match to anyone on the team. The players vigorously denied the charges and offered to take lie detector tests, but the police refused. The accuser was bipolar; had taken anti-psychotic meds; and had a history of bringing similar, unsubstantiated charges.
So how are the cases exactly alike? Because they both involve Division 1 college sports teams with blue and white uniforms?
College kids are emotional, not quite yet humans. That said, I hope the day comes when these kids realize the poor choices they are making supporting Paterno.
I believe once the dust settles, there will be no doubt Paterno was COMPLETELY enmeshed in a cover-up to protect the reputation of Penn State and his own legacy- all at the expense of a bunch of innocent children. Pitiful.
He “heard a rumor”? Are you serious? This man was told by one of his own graduate students that he saw one of Paterno’s coaches BUTT-RAPING a 10-year-old boy!!!
Are you insane?
This wasn’t a rumor! It was a first hand account!
What if this had been Joe Paterno’s grandson in the shower with that animal? Do you think for a minute Paterno would have handled it differently? You bet your last buck he would have.
Why did this child deserve ANY less help? Paterno may have fulfilled his obligation according to “policy”....but he was a total moral failure.
For years, Paterno has taught young people to do MORE than just the MINIMUM in all areas of their lives. At the time he was likely needed the most, Paterno did just the minimum. And I believe we will eventually see, he was very involved in keeping the entire matter quiet.
Given the action of the trustees, I can assure you, we are about to hear even more disturbing allegations about Paterno’s involvement. They know more than we do. Watch.
birds of a feather flock together comes to mind. nothing else explains your staunch support
Your a jerk. That statement is vulgar. I don’t appreciate being called a child rapist you freak.
Well I am done with this story. It has been in the news way too long. Time to wrap it up and get on with life. It is getting boring.
Even if that is so, his firing was absolutely the right thing to do. It was a culture that had to be changed.
Firing Joe Paterno will not do much to ease the plight of the victims, but letting him finish the out the schedule would have added to their suffering, IMO.
Letting Penn State finish out the schedule, period, will add to their suffering....these games are going to be circuses.
“If he had reported it to campus police, that would have been totally fine. (they are real police at PSU, BTW). Reporting to the Athletic Director not fine.”
It was reported to campus police because Schultz supervised the campus police. Schultz was however indicted for perjury so this should tell you where the blame really lies (aside from McQueary for not calling the cops on the spot, and of course Sandusky if proven guilty).
I can’t argue against that.
A convenient way to say your defense was absurd.
Furthermore, what is this ANIMAL Mike McQueary doing being allowed to take the field and COACH for Penn State this week?
He was 28-years-old and SAW that animal raping that child!! He did NOTHING to stop it! Instead he went to his Dad’s house and then told Paterno the next day!
I’m a father of 3 sons who are about the age that McQueary was at the time of the rape. I can assure you, any of the three of them would have picked up a bat and beaten that pervert senseless had they witnessed such a thing!
You talk about moral failures!!! How can this University let these morally devoid men continue to represent them?
Penn State is becoming a malignancy.
As I said, yes. The nature of this crime is such that the police should be called immediately.
This is especially true if a crime, especially against a person, is in progress.
That said, I agree with another article I read this morning where the author posed the question, basically, "call the police, how about step up, pull the perp off the victim and rip his head off, then call the police." If possible.
Another situation where carrying would come in handy.
Warrior- I agree.
So in your mind anyone under the age of 25 isn’t really a human being? You sound like a pro-abort lefist. Now, the frontal lobes of most college students aren’t fully developed, but they’re still human beings.
> Joe won’t last that long, I predict he’ll be dead within the year, this was his life....without it, he won’t last.
Good.
Those who scar children in this sickening, tortuous way, and those who harbor such scum, deserve every hurt and punishment that man and God can inflict.
Gary Shultz had the Campus Police Chief as his direct report per what has been reported. It was also reported yesterday on Fox News that Paterno also contacted him.
What is happenning is a pile on Paterno before the facts have completely come to light. To my knowledge, Paterno has always conducted himself in the highest manner. I would find it difficult to believe that Paterno would allow a pedofile access to his football program if he believed the report was credible.
Before we bury him, he should be allowed the dignity of explaining his actions.
Isn’t this what we are requesting of the treatment for Herman Cain?
I agree with you!
I would have screamed..grabbed that child away, called the police and the child’s parents. I don’t know which i would have done first, attack Sandusky or grab the kid.
But to see that...and just go home, tell my father and the NEXT FRIGGIN DAY tell paterno???
HUH? It was not a rumor, there was a child there being attacked. You call the cops, you get help for the child ..RIGHT THEN!
If Paterno didn’t believe the report..he should have fired McQuery if he felt that was such a lie.
You don’t lie about something like that.
Exactly....if a person comes to you with horrible allegations against another person, in the end, one person has to go, either the person who is the subject of the allegations, or the person who lied about the allegations....both cannot stay.
Every single last Person in every department that had any knowledge of this should be fired. Then re-hired and then fired again.
I agree with you on everything. I just think that they fired Joe the wrong way. I don’t see that as being equal to me being a child molester.
“Every single last Person in every department that had any knowledge of this should be fired. Then re-hired and then fired again.”
Some should be shot.
Ramming speed!
I made mention of that earlier...thousands upon thousands of comments at ESPN...try to find one that mentions 'homosexual'. I couldn't, although I couldn't go thru all of them...
Good luck.
dumb question, I haven’t been following this, but why were there like 10 year old boys on campus any how?
I was making the point that Paterno didn’t report it to the police, not that no one did. According to the grand jury report, Paterno only told the AD. The AD brought in Schultz the next day in a meeting where Paterno was not present.
Have been wondering the same thing. Where did these kids come from, where were their parents and who was responsible for them while they were on campus?
And the “victimless” alternative lifestyle claims another.
I think all of these state colleges around the country have long been in need of a harrowing. Back in 1991 when I was preparing for NC State, I was hopeful that the Valvano/Poulton scandal would mean NCSU would worry less about sports and more about academics. I’m a little wiser now. But then consider what happened to NCSU’s last chancellor because of his connections to NC’s previous godawful governor. Then there was that yearly “emerging issues forum” NCSU held yearly that always seemed to mirror current Democrat talking points. Public universities are rotten.
None of the papers are reporting, nor is it in the grand jury report that Paterno reported it to Gary Shultz. If you can provide a link to a source?
Paterno has been free to defend himself for the last few days, and hasn't.
Penn State ‘football camp’ put on by Sandusky’s charity (Second Mile).
lol.
I hear the next revelation will be that the charity was a front for a NAMBLA-style boy-pimping network to pedophiles.
They need to find the client list and go after all of them.
I would love to know why MQueary is still being allowed to coach at Penn State! This guy should have picked up a shovel or a bat or SOMETHING to beat the hell out of that pervert when he saw him raping that poor child.
I’m a grandfather- not in the shape that young man was. But I would by G*d gather what strength I have and I would have given that sicko a beating he wouldn’t forget BEFORE I drug his sorry ass to the police station.
Where was the moral fiber of THIS kid? I don’t care if he was a grad student. He was old enough to know right from wrong and he should be the next one axed in this torrid mess.
I’ve haven’t been this disgusted by the decisions of a bunch of spineless men in my life. These “trustees” need to grow a pair and clean house of the lot of them. Sickening, whining, little weasels.
I’ll check in later and tell you how I really feel.
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