Skip to comments.Fifth Cain woman says she’s not an ‘accuser’
Posted on 11/10/2011 11:04:21 AM PST by ferrgus
Donna Donella, one of the five women caught up in the charges of sexual harassment being leveled against Herman Cain, said Wednesday she is not an accuser.
I take issue with being labeled in the media as 'Accuser No. 5,' she said in an interview with The Washington Times-affiliated America's Morning News radio program. I want to make it very clear that Herman Cain never sexually harassed me, Ive never accused Herman Cain of sexually harassing me. The only reason that I came forward is because I saw behavior, the one day that I met him that was consistent with the pattern of his behavior described by his four actual accusers.
I cant put a finger on it, but as most women will tell you, you kind of have a sense when men are on the up and up and when there are men who may not be. I had that feeling and so did my colleague, and thats why she jumped in and said, Oh, lets all go to dinner.
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So, this wino lunch lady has read or heard actual details described by four actual accusers? That's funny...only Buyalick has described any details. Kraushaar has given no details. And, it appears that no one else has any idea if any other complainers even exist.
Methinks wino lunch lady is askerred of Lin Wood. Actually, Wood could probably send her a formal warning now, based just on this comment. If she's going to publicly claim she knows of behaviors described by four accusers, she damn well better be able to produce names of four accusers, and details of behaviors documented by each of the four.
—So far, isn’t every bit of it here-say?—
And if it’s true, is it even relevant. Do we really need to know about every time he left skid marks in his underwear too?
You mean an American hating Muslim playing a Marxist who is using the radical left to destroy America.
Sounds like the trojan horse story, doesn't it?
Who told you Obama is not a Muslim? The MSM? Obama? Would you feel gullible or would you say stupid (if it's shown to be true)?
IT IS CALLED GOSSIP, finally, she admits it....
Hmmm... Dangerously close to slander on her part. I suspect she received a curt letter to that effect from the attorneys of Herman Cain and is trying to cover her butt now.
“So... the so-called 5th accuser is casting aspersions based on absolutely zero evidence”
Yes but she got a funny feeling. She just felt funny about Cain. His actions just made her feel funny. Everytime she thinks about that evening she feels funny. Funny isn’t it?
The funny feeling she is getting right about now is called Lin Wood.
Stupid woman. If I went to the press every time I had “a feeling,” about something or someone, I’d be in front of the cameras every day. You either have a real story to report or you keep your intuitions to yourself. Now she’s stuck with the fame she’s got.
What she is doing is distancing herself to avoid the Herminator’s new Legal Counsel, who is know for getting slap happy with lawsuits against bogus accusers.
Even if Herman lost a suit, she would still be out tens of thousands fo dollars in lawyer fees.
It should begin to cut down on these false accusers, and does make Herman look sharp as a tack in his dealing with this.
These women are full of BS! Wussies if you will.
I built my career in a man’s world and let me tell you as a young natural blond with “assets” there were many times we’d have meetings and afterwards have cocktails. I can’t tell you the percentage of married men who have a drink or two and decide they are G-d’s newest gift to young women. You learn to deal with it and the next day tell them what a schmuck they were and no, you wouldn’t tell their wives. I was promoted amongst my male “co-workers” because they knew finally they could trust a female. They were still schmucks but I digress.
These “accusers” are the reason why so many qualified women don’t make it!
You are obviously either not a Southerner or at least not a gentleman.
Cain said he was innocent of ANY sexual harassment. You're concern with his "family values" implies you believe he is lying.
I believe you are wrong...dead wrong!
Not at all. It's obvious that he has Muslim sympathies and was enrolled at a madrasa in Indonesia. I'm just not sure if the Marxist atheism or the moon god of Arabia takes the first place in his mind.
Although, it seems that he would kneel before a mirror whether or not it faced Mecca.
I need to COME OUT.
I simply must confess.
My guilt is overwhelming my every thought. I feel so ashamed and, and... dirty, so very dirty.
I have long thought that I may have been born this way. I don’t think it was anyones fault, although I felt so guilty. I think I was 13 when I first began to realized that I might have a problem.... it was around the time that I started to get hair in certain places.
At first there were only hints of the problem. Those hints would come to me out of the blue.... I did nothing, they just came. They would come at night too.
When I was a young boy, I could never understand why girls didn’t like the games us boys played, stuff like war, seeing who could spit the farthest, playing cars in the dirt and building “boys only” Forts.
I came to believe that girls must have a special germ that made them crazy. Sure, they always seemed to be smart in school, but they were stupid about the important things in life... they couldn’t even pee standing up.
But, like I said, the nightmare started when I was 13. In the years to come, it just got worse.... it was horrible, this affliction controlled much of my life.
As the years seemed to fly by, I gained control and managed to learn how to direct this strange force within me. I finally had to just accept it as my normal, it was just the way I was, I couldn’t help it....
After living with this problem for many years, I became quite good at focussing.
Then one day I met this woman... and well.... Look, I trust you folks will try to understand and help me keep my sin secret... Okay, I’ll say it... I FLIRTED.
YES, I flirted, I flirted and I flirted AGAIN. I just couldn’t stop it.
Well, that woman married me, we have raised 2 great kids, now have 8 grandchildren and have been together for 40 years.
Now, I continue to have my problem, it is a curse, but it never goes beyond flirting.... I love my bride and would never allow it to go further.
Here is the deal, I happen to like girls. I know how to be (just) friends with girls and I hope I always will. Sure, they still aren’t interested in competing in a spitting contest, they are all crazy and they still can’t pee standing up, but heck, they are still fun to be around.
Nowadays, it seems as though somebody came up with a cure for those with my affliction, because it sure looks like far too many boys have been turned into girls, kinda girls.
Maybe, just maybe, Cain has suffered from the same strange curse that I have had to live with for most of my life. I suspect he also knows how to survive it. LOL
~Just livin’ life, my way~
Who could flame you?
I was taught to handle the flirtations of men in a sane way. Basically, in the same manner you just described. The freaks I learned to avoid. These women need to become adults.
As a Southern gentleman, I applaud your keen insight.
See post #64.
I might have flirted with you and I feel horrible about it. I hope that you will forgive me.
I hope I flirted back! Flirting can be fun and educational. Young women learn how to deal with the male sex in a smart, savvy and calm way. (Doesn’t anyone read Gone with the Wind, anymore??)
These women are little girls.
“young natural blond with assets
Proof, I need to see proof.
Seriously, that was a very good post and you are spot on..... ;>) Please... don’t take that smile too seriously. LOL
“These women are little girls.”
"Flirting" is a pleasant social grace and not expected to go anywhere. "Hitting on" is not a grace of any kind; it definitely aims for the bottom line and moves on rapidly if returns are not forthcoming!
Well done, Maryz...thx!
Yes, I would consider thrusting one's hand under the clothing of a woman to be within the definition of "hitting on."
The allegation may very well be false. I hope it is, and believe someone is innocent until proven guilty. But such behavior certainly would fall within the definition of "hitting on" a woman.
One other think. I am not a native Southerner, but as a married man, while on a business trip (or any other time), I would NOT ask a woman to dine with me who I really did not know and had no legitimate reason to dine with. I suspect my wife would take the same view.
If you need to continue a business-related discussion over dinner, fine. Just get a bunch of people and go out together. That's how you do that. (Again, I am speaking here on the principle of the matter; I sincerely hope the allegations regarding Cain are false).
You listed one accuser twice.
One of the anonymous accusers is actually Kraushaar (sp?).
There are, at most, 3 accusers.
1 still anonymous.
1 no longer anonymous: Kraushaar
3, not 4, not 5. 3.
The waitress at the diner today called me “sweetie.” That made me feel very uncomfortable. I would call a lawyer but she isn’t famous.
Not sure what your point is by conflating different issues. I suggest you reread my comment and your response.
Yeah, they wanted “proof” too ;D!
The man I finally married in my 30’s got his “proof” and he ain’t goin’ nowhere!
Of course, this doesn't count if one is a Democrat such as Clinton. In keeping with the principles of the French Revolution (the template for Communism, Nazism, Fascism, modern day Libalism), there are no crimes -- only criminals!
Absolutely Miss M! By not having standards ourselves we encourage the rats to come out of their dark lairs. Keep them down where they belong.
Gentlemen and women are still a work in progress.
Of course, I still reserve the right to tell anyone to “f” off if they need it ;D!
Oops! That’s not so gentle is it ;D!
“It was just a VAGUE FEELING that she can’t even put a finger on.”
I can do her one better: I have a VERY SPECIFIC feeling Obama is a terrible president. When is the MSM gonna interview me?
Good for you, dear lady. LOL
that’s what it was imo
BTW, I wish Cain would have ordered 3 $800 bites of wine before "sticking" you with the bill.
Or as my sister (strong Southern woman) used to say: "Time to put on your big girl panties".
Make sure you tell someone now, how uncomfortable this incident made you, just in case the waitress becomes famous 14 years from now ;-)
A $400 bottle of wine reminds me of the emperor’s new clothes.
Let’s not forget no one has validated the statement regarding 2 bottles of expensive wine.
Course if Cain really did order these bottles and stick them w/ the bill then I’d guess maybe he got wind of why the group joined him, what they really thought of him and had a little payback of his own sticking whoever it was w/ a rather large dinner tab.
Personally I don’t believe any of this until Herman chimes in or one of those named can re-produce the dinner tab.
Exactly. Who cares.
Hey, I shook hands with Clinton while on a White House tour, between the Grand Jury testimony and the impeachment hearings. Perhaps, I could still sue, because, you know, I just had that feeling.
Would not flame you, because you speak the truth. As a woman in business, I have seen a lot, but never anything I couldn’t handle. Remember going to one party where I got three propositions, and that is where it ended. Doubt if any of these men remembered what they said by the next day.
Yeah well, ... I’ve deleted everything I wanted. Let’s just say he comes home and leaves happy ;D!
There is someone out there for everyone. Thank G-d I met mine. He’s the most wonderful man!
I will leave this world knowing I was loved. What else is there, really?
“The funny feeling she is getting right about now is called Lin Wood.”
I agree. Bialek’s fiance did an interview on local Chicago news last night, “correcting” the record. He said Sharon moved out in February when they broke off their engagement. He is not her fiance, they are still friends trying to work things out. He made a point of saying he is in no way financially tied to Bialek, that he does not pay her bills. A slander lawsuit would cost him some $$.....I figured he may have heard from Lin Wood.
You sound exactly like my bride of over 40 years.
;D! You know what to do.
I’m glad she’s come out to clarify that his is not a “fifth accuser” because the media has overplayed the numbers here. It’s a circus.
That’s funny. I found I immediately noticed that during her press conference on Monday that she referred to her “boyfriend” but the MSM stories referred to him as her “fiance” in an obvious attempt to make her/them appear stable.
If by "flirting in the abstract" you mean harmless, non-sexual joking around, I have no problem with that. But in the alleged incident, Cain supposedly was trying to arrange a dinner date with one young woman, and then another, whom he didn't know. Hopefully the charge turns out to be false, but my point was that many (myself included) would consider it inappropriate behavior for a married man.
The New Testament says: "Avoid even the appearance of evil." I wonder what Freeper wives feel about finding out about their husband in such circumstances.
I think you can rest assured. But like you, I would be devastated by proof that Cain is lying.
I put my faith in Lin Wood...and Herman Cain.
You are a perhaps a gentleman after all.
We are all human...but Herman said, in this case, he is innocent.
If he is lying...he is dead. But if he is telling the truth (I think he is)...he has risen above these devious attacks...and these devious attackers.
I must say, however, that there is often truth to the adage "where there's smoke, there's fire." I actually would not be "devastated" to learn that there was some truth behind the accusations, because I learned long ago not to trust any man (or woman). We can place varying degrees of confidence in people - and hopefully a great deal of confidence in some - but God is the only One worthy of our complete trust. Given our fallen nature, sooner or later everyone will disappoint us in some way. Thus we should not be surprised to discover that someone we looked up to was not the example we thought they were.
As I mentioned in earlier posts, I was concerned - IF it was true (and that's a big IF) that a married man "on the road" would look for a single woman to keep him company (even at a dinner table). I remember Billy Graham saying long ago that he made it a point never to be alone with a woman. Similarly, I remember my childhood pastor, a godly man, saying that he never allowed himself to be alone in his office with a woman; the door would always be cracked & the secretary next door. Hopefully she could keep a confidence!
I am no prude and far from what I should be as a Christian, but I've been around long enough to realize the dangers of men & women together in the workplace. I worked for many years in an office setting, and I cannot remember a single time when I even went out for lunch with a female co-worker alone. It just never occurred to me, and I knew that it would hurt my wife.
So, I must say that if someone is not in the practice of guarding himself in this way, it tells me a lot about his character (again, innocent until proven guilty!) All the best.
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