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Cain defamation lawyer hired to monitor accusations (It's Go Time!)
reuters ^ | 11/10/2011 | Tabassum Zakaria

Posted on 11/10/2011 4:01:32 PM PST by tobyhill

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To: ozarkgirl
I think it’s a smart move, what I would do if someone accused me of something I didn’t do, take it for awhile and then start fighting back.
It wouldn’t be to intimidate but to protect myself against any unfounded accusations.

You REALLY, REALLY hit the nail on the head here. And I'm speaking from personal experience. There is only so much sh*t you can take and defend against on your own until you have to hire someone to protect your rights and good name.

The more I hear about these "complainants" the more they do not sound like real victims, either. As it stands, and I wasn't there of course, but it's looking like the odds are that Cain is the victim of a slime campaign.

51 posted on 11/10/2011 5:07:03 PM PST by KJC1
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To: livius

Is that you Tokyo Rove?


52 posted on 11/10/2011 5:07:13 PM PST by dforest
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To: dandiegirl

Sad that all of this scandal is taking away from the bigger picture like Fast and Furious! Oh right - we can’t have anything against Democrats in the papers.

I think I’m losing it!


53 posted on 11/10/2011 5:07:56 PM PST by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: livius
I don’t care what color Cain is, but as far as I can see, he’s the only one who has played the race card, complaining that he was being “targeted” because he was black.

I call bullshit on this. That's what I like about him, he doesn't pull the racecard and he could because he's fa>r blacker than Obama. You are SO out of arguments. GOP dies and the People win.

54 posted on 11/10/2011 5:09:04 PM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: jstaff
Who do you support, anyway?

It doesn't matter who he supports. Cain is doing his candidate and the GOP a huge favor by fighting back. If Cain folds under baseless attacks, his candidate will be next. The democrats will not let up because someone decides the fight isn't worth it and surrenders. They invented the politics of personal destruction.

To paraphrase the line from the Terminator:

You still don't get it, do you? They'll destroy the Republican! That's what they do! That's ALL they do! You can't stop them! They'll wade through you, reach down the GOPs throat and pull their freakin' hearts out!

55 posted on 11/10/2011 5:12:34 PM PST by Never on my watch (WTF happened to my country?)
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To: livius
He has never explained the details of the first, verified charges

What "verified" charges?

his wife (with whom he was not living at the time, because she did not accompany him to DC) has not supported him,

Do you have proof of your assertion that they were separated? Not that this would prove he harassed anyone, but I'm wondering where that statement comes from.

56 posted on 11/10/2011 5:13:56 PM PST by KJC1
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Libs heads EXPLODING from coast to coast.

Not really. More like libs delighted as the story drags on and on. A lawsuit won't be settled before any election, but every deposition, every motion, every adjustment to the legal team and every hearing will bring the whole thing into the headlines again. If Cain is suing, he'll never put this behind him while it matters. Cain wins the case? Who cares? The damage is done.

57 posted on 11/10/2011 5:17:56 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: livius

What is your agenda? Why is this a big deal to you? Please. I am baffled by your remarks .


58 posted on 11/10/2011 5:18:02 PM PST by Lumper20
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To: livius

What is your agenda? Why is this a big deal to you? Please. I am baffled by your remarks .


59 posted on 11/10/2011 5:18:12 PM PST by Lumper20
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To: livius
Palin didn't lawyer up when accused of all those things she was. How did that work out?

Oh, yeah, they kept after her until she backed out of the limelight, then attacked for a while longer to make sure she stayed out.

60 posted on 11/10/2011 5:18:22 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: livius
I think he’s lying, simply because he didn’t even admit the first cases (the employment settlements) until confronted with proof, and then he said he didn’t recall, and then he said, yes, they happened, but it wasn’t his fault and he didn’t know any of the details

He was unaware of the details at first because the settlement took place after he left the NRA. He was not a party to it and presumably had no paperwork on it since it was a confidential agreement.

61 posted on 11/10/2011 5:20:20 PM PST by lovesdogs
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To: livius

He’s just trying to deflect the other Alleged victims he referred to.
Or he knows he’s not going to win, so he’s going to plan B, Sue,Sue,Sue. The problem is that Cain and his trained monkey Block have blamed so many people, that they would be thrown out of court. They’ll be lucky if that guy that has the same name as one of the women doesn’t sue them for defamation. After all he is a “reporter”.

He has “dirty Hands” so to speak. but hey maybe the networks and cable shows will pay him some NUISANCE money.


62 posted on 11/10/2011 5:21:36 PM PST by marty60
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To: Never on my watch
Oh shoot, I'll paraphrase another great line from the Terminator that applies to Democrats:

Listen, and understand. Democrats are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.

63 posted on 11/10/2011 5:25:37 PM PST by Never on my watch (WTF happened to my country?)
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To: KJC1

It is very prudent for him to hire an attorney. Those branded women are running for the hills, their ‘chaperones’ nowhere to be found now that everyone will be held accountable.

The Dems are using their old playbook. They were going to hire more to come out of the woodwork to heap more lies. Using white women, trying to use the ‘where there is smoke there is fire’ adage to run the black man back to the plantation.

Make no mistake- there were going to be more lying floozies who have been promised money to stand up and lie. Because, they know they don’t need the truth. Even a little lie, just enough to cause doubt and besmirch this good man’s character.

Hey Gloria Allbentover, backatch b!tch.


64 posted on 11/10/2011 5:28:06 PM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Never on my watch

I agree, Herman Cain is taking the full brunt of the attack right now, he’s the shield they’re all hiding behind. I’m just not sure if livius is happy letting the opposition choose our candidate, or if she IS the opposition in disguise.


65 posted on 11/10/2011 5:32:57 PM PST by jstaff
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To: Westbrook
When nobama does this we all cuss and holler.

For the good of America, we need to know the truth about anyone running for POTUS... ANYONE. We are suffering right now under a POTUS that was able to keep his past secret.

How now is intimidating potential whistle-blowers (no pun intended) a good thing? Intimidation is the tool most effective when the facts won't support one’s defense.

If Cain is innocent he will be able to overcome false claims and become stronger, but forced silence through intimidation via this badass lawyer is intended to do just that, silence anyone and everyone.

Rassmusen poll showing that women are jumping off the Cain-Train in no small numbers, you reckon Lin Woods is going to make the voting ladies more comfortable or less comfortable?

We all need to take of the rose colored glasses for just a moment and think about it.

66 posted on 11/10/2011 5:42:29 PM PST by X-spurt
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To: livius

I’m glad you’re not on Cain’s team giving him advice.


67 posted on 11/10/2011 5:44:25 PM PST by Shannon
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To: tobyhill

Herman: Raise me a Gloria Allred, eh? I’ll see that and re-raise you Lin Wood. Lin will respond to any situations....accordingly.

Liberals: Fold.


68 posted on 11/10/2011 5:48:26 PM PST by Personal Responsibility (He's not perfect; no one is. He's a human running for President not Son of God!)
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To: ozarkgirl
Good use of campaign money.

He's not using campaign money, according to the article. The campaign didn't hire him; Cain did.

69 posted on 11/10/2011 5:52:40 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: X-spurt

Actually, if any of these women are telling the truth, this should not deter them one bit. This should piss them off and make them take the gloves off even more. The truth is the defense to any claims of defamation.


70 posted on 11/10/2011 5:54:04 PM PST by KJC1
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To: Shannon; livius

Livius post is wishful thinking.....he’s not a Cain fan.


71 posted on 11/10/2011 5:54:18 PM PST by Guenevere (....We press on.....)
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To: ozarkgirl

Herman Cain must have read my post here at FR a week or so ago!


72 posted on 11/10/2011 5:57:43 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Hang in there Herman, conservatives love you!)
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To: murron

It’s marvelous how quickly the hecklers stop ringing your doorbell when you station a Rottweiler on the porch!


73 posted on 11/10/2011 5:57:57 PM PST by Tucker39
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To: livius

Is that you Karl?


74 posted on 11/10/2011 5:59:07 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: KJC1

Agree, but when he drug out this “Billy-the-Kid hired gun” the logical and likely result will be to scare anyone not a diehard political regardless if they have the truth on their side or not. Face it most women are not too difficult to intimidate.

One way Cain could put these allegations away would be to show unrefutable evidence and/or witnesses that show he was NOT with any of these women where any possiblity of any “mis-understanding” could occur.

If he was going to dinner, cruisin around and stopping in the parking lot with the women who wanted his help with a “job”, he was intentionally in the wrong place at the wrong time, no matter what occurred or who made the move.


75 posted on 11/10/2011 6:15:45 PM PST by X-spurt
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To: livius

“She was uncomfortable and wouldn’t do it, so he invited her to dinner but she wouldn’t go unless she could invite friends, which she did. Cain ordered two $400 bottles of wine at the dinner, and then left the women with the tab. “]

Or so she says.

Actually, I love this story, because it involves other witnesses who can corroborate at least the restaurant part of the evening.

I can’t wait to hear from each one of them.


76 posted on 11/10/2011 6:21:53 PM PST by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: X-spurt

Welcome (?) To FR...so..who is YOUR favorite candidate?


77 posted on 11/10/2011 6:26:51 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (I stand with Mr. Cain!)
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To: X-spurt

I think you just exposed your agenda there, X-spurt. You are asking Cain to prove he didn’t do anything wrong instead of asking his accusers to prove he did.


78 posted on 11/10/2011 6:35:22 PM PST by KJC1
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To: X-spurt

Gen Xer huh!

You have much to learn about the world of politics.

Everyone is entitled to legal representation, even Herman Cain.

Like it or not, There ARE two sides to every story and so called Sexual Harrassment victims have a very poor track record of honesty with the public as a whole.


79 posted on 11/10/2011 6:39:12 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Hang in there Herman, conservatives love you!)
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To: livius

Comparing Cain and this situation to Clinton is the stupidest thing I have ever seen posted congratulations you win the ROVE RINO MORON award.


80 posted on 11/10/2011 6:43:06 PM PST by Leto
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To: KJC1

Making the accusation provable is what is required in court, not in PUBLIC OPINION. Cain’s problem is PUBLIC OPINION, he needs to resolve this NOW and he is the only one that can right now.

As to my agenda, its to find out the truth. I really like Cain, like his not being a career politician, like his ideas, but I am becoming very concerned with the way his campaign is handling these allegations and hiring the lawyer does not help me feel more comfortable.

My AGENDA is for us to have the best most conservative nominee against nobama! PERIOD. Conservatism means honesty, integrity and common sense, not intimidation by fear.

Do you think intimidating to enforce anyone remain quiet that may actually have something important to say as a good thing?? I do not.


81 posted on 11/10/2011 6:48:16 PM PST by X-spurt
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To: Tucker39

Opportunity quits knock too!


82 posted on 11/10/2011 6:49:51 PM PST by X-spurt
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To: livius

Cain ran companies, rescued companies, caused companies to thrive. Have you, keyboard punk? For you to say he has “no knowledge” and “superficial ideas” - let’s hear your resume, keyboard punk. Tell us how you are so much smarter and more capable than him. Take a break from repeating girl gossip and tell us your real world experience and how Cain is an idiot compared to you. I bet you can’t even lie about your own resume and have it stack up to his.


83 posted on 11/10/2011 6:50:27 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: KJC1

“What “verified” charges?”

There aren’t any!

Gloria Allred’s statements aren’t anything but lies as usual. She tucked her tail and ran like a scalded dog when Cain hired an attorney to fight back unlike most GOP cowards!!!


84 posted on 11/10/2011 6:51:18 PM PST by kcvl
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To: X-spurt
Do you think intimidating to enforce anyone remain quiet that may actually have something important to say as a good thing??

Of course I don't, but that is not what is happening here. As I said in an earlier post, this should make the accusers, IF they are telling the truth, throw down and take the gloves off. You don't hire an attorney like Gloria Allred only to turn tale when the heat cranks up.

For matter of discussion, have you been in any public places in the last decade or recent decades? If so, I'd like you to prove you didn't treat anyone inappropriately during all said times, otherwise, you must be guilty. Of course, you are expected to remember all strangers and to recall details of people who may have not even been there and whom you've never met.

85 posted on 11/10/2011 7:01:19 PM PST by KJC1
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To: Brad's Gramma

Well that is an evolving thing. First I was a Palinista, then she backed out. Then I hope Perry could prove he could do for America what he has done for Texas, then he melted. Next I started listening to what Cain was really saying beyond the silly 999 and damn he was sounding better and better, now that he is not handling these allegations very well and is loosing the women vote like a waterfall, I am becoming concern he won’t make it in the Primaries, no matter he great conservative message.

Now I just don’t know, still hoping Mr. Cain can re-gain his footing. Newt is smart as a whip, but has some significant baggage. Even sort of re-dreamin about Palin and hoping above all else we don’t get stuck with Mitt.

How about you?

Are you welcoming or not? Newby maybe but no pushover and love to get right back in the face of bullies.


86 posted on 11/10/2011 7:03:39 PM PST by X-spurt
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To: X-spurt

Just one question....your comment about Mr. Cain losing the female vote...do you have a reliable source for that?

You said “allegations”....indeed. However, to date, that sure ‘nuf is ALL they are.

The jury is still out w/my “welcome”. No offense meant.


88 posted on 11/10/2011 7:15:07 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (I stand with Mr. Cain!)
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To: Randy Larsen
Well, Randy, don't waste your money on the Lotto or bettin the horses, your ESP ain't worth spit. Sure ain't a GenX. Probably some time and likely experience on you my FRiend.

Everyone is entitled to legal representation. If you think hiring Woods was for “legal representation” I have a bridge or two to sell ya.

Regarding the public, I suggest you take a look at recent Ras Poll showing women are jumping off the CainTrain BIG TIME. Now why do you think that is all about? You think Cain is going to whip out the nomination that way?

My main problem is whomever is advising Cain, not with Cain. They are either blind or have some ulterior intention to sabotage him.

89 posted on 11/10/2011 7:17:53 PM PST by X-spurt
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To: X-spurt
First I was a Palinista, then she backed out

What did she "back out" of? She never announced a candidacy.

You are transparent, X-spurt. You slam Cain then slam other conservatives and/or repubs, then re-direct and deflect the topic at hand to try to get people to welcome you and sympathize with you. I have never before thought a poster was a paid operative, but you sound like it with a capital "IT".

90 posted on 11/10/2011 7:18:42 PM PST by KJC1
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To: livius

I see by your comments on other threads that you believe Cain is a slimy liar, and has sexually abused many women.

You believe the worst about Cain, despite the evidence that indicates that he’s being unfairly targeted.

Who are you rooting for in the primaries? Obama? Or someone who’s not running?


91 posted on 11/10/2011 7:23:37 PM PST by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: tobyhill
Asked to respond to Wood's "think twice" comment, Kraushaar's lawyer, Joel Bennett, said: "I have not heard his statement, but statements of that nature could intimidate or discourage women from reporting sexual harassment."

Conflicted much, Mr. Bennett?

92 posted on 11/10/2011 7:24:30 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (minds change)
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To: kcvl

When Hannity said he has never seen this side of Cain, no one has, Allred pulled out the “That’s what they say about child molesters” card.

Disgusting


93 posted on 11/10/2011 7:28:47 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Oh my God, I’m so glad I didn’t see that. Any further questions why Cain hired a defamation lawyer?

I hope Allred is done after a comment like that. Unf*cking believable, even for me, and I’ve seen a lot.

10 bucks says she’s trying to ride the PSU wave here, like any sheister lawyer.


94 posted on 11/10/2011 7:39:02 PM PST by KJC1
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To: KJC1

I DO think you nailed it...


95 posted on 11/10/2011 7:39:23 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (I stand with Mr. Cain!)
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To: Tea4two

Do you believe her?


96 posted on 11/10/2011 7:41:09 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (I stand with Mr. Cain!)
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To: ozarkgirl

Are you kidding? Rumor has it, he doesn’t even pay for the wine!
:)


97 posted on 11/10/2011 7:42:44 PM PST by Heart-Rest (May the truth prevail.)
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To: Heart-Rest

Maybe he didn’t consider it to be his dinner like the gold diggers did. That tells me they were out for more than business thinking he was going to be their sugar daddy for the night.


98 posted on 11/10/2011 7:54:46 PM PST by kcvl
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To: KJC1

So you don’t think Palin was more or less running, then backed out? What planet you just fly in from?

You can not find one post where I have SLAMMED Cain. So show us big mouth.

I don’t give two hoots about who welcomes me or sympathizes. You are a poor excuse for a FRbully. Go find some grit then come back.

My purpose here is for a COMMON SENSE discourse of the issues and candidates we face as conservatives trying to save America, which is sometimes rare with some.


99 posted on 11/10/2011 7:55:17 PM PST by X-spurt
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To: Brad's Gramma

Read about the Ras Poll on FR a day or two ago. Sorry don’t have a copy, but it was shocking.
PROOF is what’s required in court not in public opinion.
I like Cain, but if he thinks trying to scare off anyone from saying anything with this very intimidating lawyer is going to make him look better in the public’s opinion, he is lost right now.

I hope common sense Freepers can recognize the BIG difference between “hot supporters”, his positions in polls and Primary votes. Even more I hope Cain realizes that unrefutable fact, before its too late.

No “welcome” offense taken, My FRiend.


100 posted on 11/10/2011 8:00:51 PM PST by X-spurt
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