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Good Riddance, Joe Paterno [Warning: Graphic Penn State 'rant']
The Daily Beast ^ | Nov. 10, 2011 | Buzz Bissinger

Posted on 11/11/2011 1:25:04 AM PST by Colofornian

The Penn State legend tried to do an end-run around the trustees, but they still fired him for doing nothing to stop the alleged sexual abuse of young boys. Now it’s time to ditch the rotten college football system, says Buzz Bissinger.

Like everyone else, I cannot get the scandal of Pennsylvania State University out of my mind.

The story is unfolding at the speed of sound, not just the worst sports scandal in modern history but also one of the worst scandals in modern history:

A former Penn State assistant coach for 29 years and alleged sexual predator, Jerry Sandusky, apparently continued unchecked because of the failure of university officials and head football coach deity Joe Paterno to do anything that might have made a difference instead of what they collectively did achieve:

Buck-passing and unconscionable cowardice.

Paterno announced in a statement Wednesday that he would retire as head coach at the end of the football season after 46 years. He tried to sound like a humble martyr, but he was selfish and self-serving as usual. With the hubris and arrogance that has been the hallmark of his career over the past decade, the over-the-hill 84-year-old attempted to do an end-run around the Penn State board of trustees, who have been meeting to decide his fate. Paterno was hoping he could forever claim he decided to leave the football program of his own accord. The trustees called his bluff Wednesday night, firing Paterno and university president Graham Spanier.

Paterno is just a part of this whole sordid, shameful disgrace. He is easy to focus on because of his mythic stature, all false idol, as it turns out. But I find myself not caring about him anymore, particularly now that he has been let go.

What I am trying to fathom is how it ever became possible that so many men of power and intellect did nothing when it became obvious, because it was abundantly obvious on the basis of the findings of fact handed down earlier this week by a Pennsylvania investigative grand jury, that a former assistant coach familiar to all of them was apparently plucking out little boys as young as 10 to f--k up the ass or be on the receiving end of blowjobs.

(Note: we need to stop the daintiness and describe the alleged offenses for what they truly are in the vernacular to somehow try to capture the monstrousness. Not anal intercourse or oral sex, which sounds clinical, but butt-f--king and blowjobs and cock-grabbing and pants-groping and other assorted acts that the 67-year-old Sandusky allegedly inflicted on eight minor victims over a 15-year span, according to the 23-page grand-jury report, and resulted in 40 counts of serial sex abuse of minors.)

I think the answer to the question of inaction is simple. It wasn’t a matter of university officials and football staffers in Happy Valley not wanting to deal with it (which they didn’t), or not following up (which they didn’t), or having better things to do like attending Friday-night football pep rallies. There is no great conspiracy theory at work.

What happened, or more accurately did not happen, goes to the core of evil that major college sports programs in this country have become, equivalent to Mafia families in which the code of omertà rules and coaches and staff always close ranks around their own, even if it means letting someone who was first accused of inappropriate sexual conduct in 1998 continue to roam.

The horror of it all, both in terms of what Sandusky allegedly did and what Penn State officials did not, can be summed up by a single sound.

It is a “rhythmic, slapping” sound, according to page 6 of the grand-jury report. It is heard by a 28-year-old football graduate assistant named Mike McQueary in the locker room of the Lasch Football Building on the Penn State Campus at 9:30 on the Friday night of March 1, 2002.

McQueary is placing some new sneakers into his locker. At first he finds it odd that the lights and showers are on. Then he hears the sound coming from the showers. He looks inside and according to his grand-jury testimony, sees the cause of the sound: a naked child of roughly 10 years old with his hands up against the wall with a naked Sandusky butt-f--king him from behind. Sadistic, yes. Sick, yes. Beyond disturbing, yes. Deviant, yes. Immediate grounds for calling the police? Of course, yes. The upshot?

Nothing. Nada. Not a goddamn thing but the passing of the buck up the food chain of bureaucratic bullshit where too many people know that something awful has happened and try to bury it.

McQueary, who witnessed the incident, witnessed it, doesn’t call the police, although he is 28. He runs to his daddy. His daddy advises him to tell Paterno. He tells Paterno. The great JoePa, who regardless of his noncredible insistence in grand-jury testimony that he was never told the specific nature of the sexual act, does at the very least acknowledge that McQueary did relate to him that Sandusky was “fondling” a young boy.

Unless fondling of young boys by assistant football coaches at Penn State is commonplace and encouraged, that alone should be enough to make Paterno go to the police. Or being the father figure he supposedly is, tell McQueary that he has to go to the police and will accompany him, given that Paterno is the most popular and powerful man in Pennsylvania, with instant credibility.

But Paterno does nothing beyond fulfilling his minimal obligation. He passes the information he says he has on to athletic director Tim Curley and that’s it, the obviousness that Sandusky is doing something terrible apparently far less important than such crucial pursuits as watching game films of the last Ohio State game. And on up the food chain it goes—to senior vice president for finance and business Gary Schultz, all the way up to Spanier, the university president. But with each iteration the incident only seems to become more diluted and more muddled or, as the grand-jury report unequivocally indicates, some of those aware of what happened are lying their balls off to try to minimize what they really knew. Which would also explain the action that the university ultimately took against Sandusky:

He had his keys to the locker room taken away, which he had still maintained after he stopped coaching in 1999.

Which may also explain that in the wake of such draconian punishment, Sandusky subsequently gave blowjobs to a minor roughly 13 years old more than 20 times in 2007 and 2008, according to the grand-jury findings of fact.

Joe will mercifully be gone, along with President Spanier. Curley has gone and Schultz stepped down. So should McQueary, who is actually the most gutless in not telling police what he witnessed. The entire Penn State coaching staff, too much under the influence of Paterno, should go.

And so, frankly, should major college football and basketball as it exists now, rotten beyond repair, as has been pointed out a thousand times. Totally disconnected from the academic experience, they are insulated kingdoms with their own rules and reigns of terror because of the money they make, trading in illegal recruiting and illegal gifts and illegal favors, and now, thanks to Penn State, alleged sexual abuse of children by a former coach who must have assumed he would always be protected. Just like a Mafia soldier.

Except that the even the Mafia has higher moral standards.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: childabuse; gagdadbob; inneedosomerestraint; onecosmosblog; paterno; pennstate; sandusky; sports
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To: Erik Latranyi

I agree. bttt


51 posted on 11/11/2011 5:56:26 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("A Republican Larry Flynt should wave around $50,000 for proof of sexual harassment at Politico" -RL)
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To: ken5050

Hadn’t seen that. I know Paterno made an ungracious remark about Barry Switzer & Jackie Sherrill back in the late ‘80s. Payback? Maybe. But Switzer has drawn a reasonable conclusion.


52 posted on 11/11/2011 6:03:09 AM PST by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: Tallguy

I just want to add something I haven’t read anywhere. Yes, it is absolutely true that by not reporting Sandusky to the police ALL those in the know - Paterno, McQueery, AD, Pres. Etc. - knowingly unleashed a vicious child predator on the children of Happy Valley and elsewhere. However, it’s MUCH worse than that!

Sandusky operated with the implied approval/backing/OK from Joe Paterno himself! He was accepted as “a great guy” by virtue of his long association with PSU and most importantly JoePa. If the moral and great JoePa says he’s OK, then he’s OK by us! Who would even question such a man in the community - “of course he can take my son to the ballgame! It’s an honor”! “What camp should I send my son to? Well, the PSU/Sandusky camp of course where he’ll learn football from the best but also learn the values of Joe Paterno!”.

It’s far sicker what Joe Paterno did by ignoring this than I have read anywhere. Sandusky was his guy - just like all the long-time coaches were.

It is so similar to the Catholic church that it’s scary. Who didn’t trust priests 40 years ago? Why, the Bishop approves them! Yeah... the bishops were moving offenders to different parishes to coverup while unleashing a predator on new victims.

Bishop JoePa should be in jail. Better yet, he should face the victims every day for the rest of his life. Did you ever bring your grandkids to hang out with Sandusky, Bishop JoePa? Thought not. Coward, phoney, criminal, scumbag piece of trash representing the WORST of humanity!


53 posted on 11/11/2011 6:04:27 AM PST by theyalllie
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To: Alberta's Child
A 28 year-old guy running home to his father for advice on what to do in this situation tells me we're dealing with a seriously stunted personality here.

A total coward who instantly cared more about his own well-being than that of the child. That child knew another adult was there was wasn't willing to do a darn thing. Total betrayal.

I hope the look on that child's face stays with McQueerie for as long as he lives. I hope it haunts him.
54 posted on 11/11/2011 6:08:01 AM PST by Shannon
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To: Colofornian
When Jeffrey Dahmer was still breathing, still on the outside, the police responded to a neighbor's noise complaint. Upon their arrival at Dahmer's house, the police witnessed one of Dahmer's intended victims attempt an escape pursued by Dahmer. What did the police do?

Nothing. They had been conditioned to believe this was just one of those things that two consenting homosexual males do. "Thank you, officers.", Dahmer said as the two policemen left, after advising them to "keep the noise down." That would-be escapee was later killed and eaten.

(I'm recalling this entirely from memory. These events transpired 20 years ago.)

55 posted on 11/11/2011 6:10:21 AM PST by Oratam
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To: Colofornian; All
Can someone fill me on something? I guess I've missed it but, how did this story finally come to light?
56 posted on 11/11/2011 6:12:29 AM PST by CAluvdubya (I STAND WITH CAIN)
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To: Colofornian

I wonder what took them so long. Libs are dragging Bush into this and saying how buddy-buddy Bush and Paterno were, and how staunch a conservative Paterno is.


57 posted on 11/11/2011 6:29:04 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: samtheman

He is out on bail.


58 posted on 11/11/2011 6:48:51 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Colofornian

From the article “Or being the father figure he supposedly is, tell McQueary that he has to go to the police and will accompany him...”

THAT is what my father would have done, if anyone had come to him with such a report. My father was a relatively frail man, he wasn’t famous and he wasn’t powerful. But, I guarantee my dad and the witness would be at the police station immediately and you wouldn’t be leaving until you knew action was going to be taken.

My father actually spent a good part of his career working in child welfare in NYC. RIP Dad, you were the greatest person I’ve ever known.


59 posted on 11/11/2011 7:08:39 AM PST by jocon307
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To: MrEdd

Should be in the morgue.


60 posted on 11/11/2011 7:27:48 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Colofornian

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_sexual_abuse_accusations_against_Michael_Jackson

This describes the case against Michael Jackson in 1993 - the result of which probably gave many pedophiles the green light.

It also describes the negligent mother - who was so enamored of the ‘celebrity’ environment she and her child were experiencing - she failed her responsibilities to her son. I’m sure some of the parents of Sandusky’s victims were captured by the ‘college football coach aura’ and failed to listen to their better instincts.


61 posted on 11/11/2011 8:14:36 AM PST by sodpoodle (Cain - touching the better angels of our nature. Newt - knowledge is power.)
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To: who knows what evil?
Sandusky is a homosexual pedophile...why is everyone afraid of saying that?

I know that the homosexual community has done more to open the door for pedophilia than people know about, but I'd like to hear to response to this one: What do you say if somebody says, 'Well, they don't use the term heterosexual pedophile, either' ?

62 posted on 11/11/2011 8:45:06 AM PST by Colofornian (The Perv State KNitKinsey Lionizers: The campus which most now love to loathe!)
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To: MrEdd; samtheman
He is out on bail.

It took them about 4 months shy of a decade to arrest him...as they started only investigating him in earnest about 3 yrs ago

63 posted on 11/11/2011 8:48:33 AM PST by Colofornian (The Perv State KNitKinsey Lionizers: The campus which most now love to loathe!)
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To: CAluvdubya
Can someone fill me on something? I guess I've missed it but, how did this story finally come to light?

Read it here: Mothers of two of Jerry Sandusky's alleged victims lash out at Penn State officials' handling...

64 posted on 11/11/2011 8:53:18 AM PST by Colofornian (The Perv State KNitKinsey Lionizers: The campus which most now love to loathe!)
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To: theyalllie
Yes, it is absolutely true that by not reporting Sandusky to the police ALL those in the know - Paterno, McQueery, AD, Pres. Etc. - knowingly unleashed a vicious child predator on the children of Happy Valley and elsewhere. However, it’s MUCH worse than that! Sandusky operated with the implied approval/backing/OK from Joe Paterno himself! He was accepted as “a great guy” by virtue of his long association with PSU and most importantly JoePa. If the moral and great JoePa says he’s OK, then he’s OK by us! Who would even question such a man in the community - “of course he can take my son to the ballgame! It’s an honor”! “What camp should I send my son to? Well, the PSU/Sandusky camp of course where he’ll learn football from the best but also learn the values of Joe Paterno!”. It’s far sicker what Joe Paterno did by ignoring this than I have read anywhere. Sandusky was his guy - just like all the long-time coaches were.

Good catch. And please keep repeating this emphasis when you post on different threads.

As I read what you wrote, I thought of a "red flag" word picture.

...like a highway flagman frantically waving down a motorcade of cars
-- trying to halt them...
...but they move on...
...confident that the car in front (Paterno) won't lead them astray...
...yet the bridge is washed out ahead...

"The arm of flesh will fail you" (Jer. 17:5)...or as the NIV renders it: "5 This is what the LORD says:
“Cursed is the one who trusts in man,
who draws strength from mere flesh

A few verses later:

9 The heart is deceitful above all things
and beyond cure.
Who can understand it?
10 “I the LORD search the heart
and examine the mind,
to reward each person according to their conduct,
according to what their deeds deserve.”

65 posted on 11/11/2011 9:06:32 AM PST by Colofornian (The Perv State KNitKinsey Lionizers: The campus which most now love to loathe!)
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To: Campion
This article is an exercise in poor logic. You can't generalize from what was going on at Penn State and assume it applies to every college sports program

If you click on a few of the imbedded links in the article...for example, one of the links takes you to the Miami scandal...the author isn't only referencing Penn State.

Penn State and Miami aren't the only scandals of late...Ohio State, etc.

I think Jim Lampley has a point (post #4)...What has become distinctive about some of the sports programs of late...especially football...is that it's now beyond an adjunct to the educational institution. It's now it's own entity, commercialized as such to suck as much $ from the region and nation as possible.

As such, more is tolerated within it because who wants to rock a boat hauling diamonds from the island where they it struck it rich with a diamond field?

66 posted on 11/11/2011 9:13:06 AM PST by Colofornian (The Perv State KNitKinsey Lionizers: The campus which most now love to loathe!)
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To: Colofornian

Yhank you :)


67 posted on 11/11/2011 9:36:26 AM PST by CAluvdubya (I STAND WITH CAIN)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

Sandusky could’ve been the founder/high priest of NAMBLA,given his sick and twisted resume.Wonder what little gems his computer hard drive holds? And how could his wife have turned a blind eye to this? I find it hard to believe she didn’t know...she just didn’t WANT to know.According to the GJR,she did try to call the one victim before he was to give testimony...was she calling to find out why he was going to say,or to find out why he was testifying in the first place? This is all so sordid.


68 posted on 11/11/2011 11:13:04 AM PST by gimme1ibertee ("Criticism......brings attention to an unhealthy state of things"-Winston Churchill)
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To: xzins
If Paterno's insistence above is true, then what difference would it make?

Because both the GJ presentment and the GJ findings are very careful not to describe what McQueary said he told Paterno. And if McQueary is called to testify publicly in a criminal proceeding against Sandusky, or in any one of the countless possible criminal or civil suits, or state or federal investigations or hearings, McQueary may well say that he told Paterno that it was anal rape.

Second, if Paterno lives long enough, then he may have to testify publicly, or be deposed, in one of these criminal or civll suits or investigations or hearings.

Then there's the matter of the 1998 University Police investigation into incidents (plural) of Sandusky in the football showers with boys. Somebody may have to testify about whether Joe Paterno knew about that investigation, and whether he knew of the findings, and whether he saw a copy of any reports or memos.

And the 2002 incident when a janitor observed Sandusky committing oral sodomy on a boy in the football showers.

Not only may we hear from the other party to the 2002 conversation that Paterno 'insists" was only about fondling or "something of a sexual nature", but we may hear of many other things that Paterno knew . . . and not in the context of a trial or attack on Paterno. Simply in the context of the barrage of lawsuits and investigations and hearings that are going to follow this.

69 posted on 11/11/2011 11:23:38 AM PST by Scoutmaster (I stand for something; therefore, I can't stand Romney)
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To: Colofornian
The story is unfolding at the speed of sound, not just the worst sports scandal in modern history but also one of the worst scandals in modern history:

It's ugly, but let's hang onto some sense of proportion. Fast & Furious killed hundreds of people. Nobody died from the Penn State scandal, with the possible exception of that attorney.

70 posted on 11/11/2011 11:33:26 AM PST by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: gleeaikin

Lots of articles on the net, several on this website:
http://elle-kynzer.wrytestuff.com/swa788850-Sandusky-Was-Not-Prosecuted-In-1998-By-The-Da-Who-Disappeared-In-2005-Why-Not.htm


71 posted on 11/11/2011 11:42:13 AM PST by Kackikat
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To: wolficatZ

Who was that erased from that painting? Just curious....


72 posted on 11/11/2011 11:44:31 AM PST by wolf24
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To: RedwM

Paterno denies knowing anything about the 1998 incident which happened in his locker room’s showers. Even though the episode was investigated by campus police, State College city police, and the PA Child Welfare Bureau, Paterno and his attorney son claim JoePa never knew about it. Even though Sandusky suddenly decided to retire a few months later at the peak of his career and only age 55, never to coach a college team again, Paterno says he never knew.


73 posted on 11/11/2011 12:25:57 PM PST by GAgal
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To: alice_in_bubbaland
It is almost impossible for Paterno to have not known in 1998 and 1999 the reason why his #2 guy, at 55, was removed from his position and never went on to be the head coach for another program.

The reason, in 1998, was that Sandusky was caught on tape admitting to taking a shower with a young boy.

So the 2002 incident that McQueary witnessed was almost certainly the SECOND (at least) time that Paterno had heard of Sandusky in the shower at HIS facility with a young boy.

Fast forward 13 years after the first event and nine years after the second - and Paterno and McQueary are STILL seeing Sandusky around PennState facilities with young boys in tow?

74 posted on 11/11/2011 12:44:32 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Colofornian
To paraphrase him, he said when College Football began to become its own-purposed self-entity -- vs. being an adjunct of the educational institution -- is what has led to its downfall exposure.

What each and every one of the so-called adults in this did, the same sin they all committed was "protecting the brand". There was so much money involved that it was imperative that 'the PSU brand' be protected at all costs, no matter if some children suffered under Sandusky (and possibly others) as a result.

That this type of thinking is erroneous *should* have been obvious to 'college educated' people, but was not, is a sad commentary on our times. It is also indicative of something I personally have held to be largely true for quite some time now. That something is that the end product of college isn't so much an education, as it is a complete indoctrination.

Thus, they were either unwilling, or even more shocking, unable to see that the steps they took in 'protecting the brand' lead, in the final analysis, to 'the brand' becoming worthless, and an object of utter scorn. Let those who have been indoctrinated in the Gospel of Marx take heed. The end most emphatically does *NOT* justify the means...

the infowarrior

75 posted on 11/11/2011 2:12:23 PM PST by infowarrior
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To: infowarrior
What each and every one of the so-called adults in this did, the same sin they all committed was "protecting the brand". There was so much money involved that it was imperative that 'the PSU brand' be protected at all costs, no matter if some children suffered under Sandusky (and possibly others) as a result. That this type of thinking is erroneous *should* have been obvious to 'college educated' people, but was not, is a sad commentary on our times. It is also indicative of something I personally have held to be largely true for quite some time now. That something is that the end product of college isn't so much an education, as it is a complete indoctrination. Thus, they were either unwilling, or even more shocking, unable to see that the steps they took in 'protecting the brand' lead, in the final analysis, to 'the brand' becoming worthless, and an object of utter scorn.

Excellent analysis.

And, btw, even the local PR experts (CBS affiliate TV-21 out of Harrisburg, PA), agreed with that bled over once this story broke:

...the general consensus among local experts is that Penn State was not thinking of the kids when the news broke, they were thinking about their brand, and that was a terrible decision. “Penn State overruled everything,” stated Soni Dimond of Soni Dimond Media. “The image of Penn State, the brand was being protected and the children were not.”
Source: Penn State's handling of Sandusky sex scandal has been a PR nightmare, say experts

76 posted on 11/11/2011 4:54:56 PM PST by Colofornian (The Perv State KNitKinsey Lionizers: The campus which most now love to loathe!)
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To: wolf24; wolficatZ
Who was that erased from that painting? Just curious....

Sandusky the boy-rapist

77 posted on 11/11/2011 4:56:04 PM PST by Colofornian (The Perv State KNitKinsey Lionizers: The campus which most now love to loathe!)
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To: Matchett-PI
Is Michael Mann *single*?

(OTOH, Sandusky was married, right?)

Cheers!

78 posted on 11/12/2011 6:58:26 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: MacMattico
Just read that in addition to adopting 5 boys, (and 1 girl) the Sandusky’s had many foster children over the years...

I'd love to hear Michelle Bachmann on this.

Cheers!

79 posted on 11/12/2011 7:00:04 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: MacMattico
And you can't make this stuff up : his autobiography is titled TOUCHED: The Jerry Sandusky story.

From 'Heather has two Mommies' to 'Billy has two Coaches'...

NO Cheers, unfortunately.

80 posted on 11/12/2011 7:00:51 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: olezip
What does Penn State have in the way of training to recognize signs of sexual abuse,

How about a "rhythmic slapping sound" of flesh on flesh coming from the showers?

81 posted on 11/12/2011 7:04:47 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: olezip
What does Penn State have in the way of training to recognize signs of sexual abuse,

How about a "rhythmic, slapping sound" of flesh on flesh coming from the showers?

82 posted on 11/12/2011 7:05:12 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Colofornian

The law (mandated reporters) in PA doesn’t say you have to report to your boss. It says you have to report to DHS. The whole pack of Penn State administrators and coaches are guilty of a crime, legal and moral.


83 posted on 11/12/2011 7:33:50 AM PST by bobzeetwin
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To: grey_whiskers
"Is Michael Mann *single*? (OTOH, Sandusky was married, right?)"

Sandusky is married to an "enabler" of his "activities", from everything I've read.

Michael Mann appears to be "single", as I can find no reference to a "wife" in his bio or anywhere else. It appears as if he has a 4 year-old daughter based on this article I found:

This puff piece in 2010 only mentions a picture of his 4-year-old daughter on his desk. (No picture of a "wife")

Climate expert in the eye of an integrity storm (Michael Mann) ".....Behind his desk were a picture of his 4-year-old daughter..."

Wikipedia doesn't mention any "wife":
Michael E. Mann (born December 28, 1965

) Per Zaba search, I found this:

This could be him as this town is about 2 miles from the State College campus:

MICHAEL E & LORRAINE C SANT MANN Born DEC 1965
240 S CHURCH ST
BOALSBURG, PA 16827 (434) 244-9955

If this is him, Lorraine may be the mother of his daughter mentioned in the article above.

SPOKEO shows him as "single":

Michael E Mann
Male | Mid 40's
Phone: (814) 466-****
Address: ****** S Church St
Location: Boalsburg, PA 16827

bttt

84 posted on 11/12/2011 12:06:30 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("A Republican Larry Flynt should wave around $50,000 for proof of sexual harassment at Politico" -RL)
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To: Matchett-PI

Best article on this subject.


85 posted on 11/12/2011 7:20:40 PM PST by CitizenReporter
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To: Colofornian

Thank you for posting this. It needs to be said.


86 posted on 11/12/2011 7:21:33 PM PST by CitizenReporter
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To: dfwgator

Thought you might want to read this one. No sugar coating here.


87 posted on 11/12/2011 7:58:13 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: samtheman
Did the police ever arrest the person who was witnessed having sex with a 10 year old boy?

Sandusky was arrested a week ago today. He was released without having to post any bail.

88 posted on 11/12/2011 8:47:24 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Colofornian

I agree with you posting this. Yes it is graphic...but with some of those involved using words like “horseplay” I think the actual description of what was witnessed needs to be out there. The University not taking immediate action after hearing this described just floors me. All involved should have made sure this was really dealt with, and didn’t. I am not any part of a football fan, but cannot imagine what all these adults were thinking while children were being molested- and they knew it.


89 posted on 11/12/2011 8:57:17 PM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: theyalllie

Great post, thanks for sharing.


90 posted on 11/12/2011 8:57:42 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Interesting Times

Sense of proportion? Do you have any idea the impact that being raped has on a child?


91 posted on 11/12/2011 11:27:23 PM PST by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: FourPeas
Sense of proportion? Do you have any idea the impact that being raped has on a child?

Are you arguing that murder is a lesser crime than rape?

92 posted on 11/12/2011 11:29:53 PM PST by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Interesting Times

I’m asserting that attempting to find some “sense of proportion” between hundreds of people being killed and a man who starts a charitable organization to provide himself with boys to rape is beyond bizarre. It’s like saying that what Jeffrey Dahmer (sp?) did wasn’t all that bad because the Holocaust killed millions of Jews.


93 posted on 11/12/2011 11:37:52 PM PST by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: FourPeas

The bizarre Holocaust / cannibalism comparison is yours, not mine, and you are welcome to it.

I do suggest that murder is worse than rape. That isn’t an unusual position - consider the relative legal penalties for the two crimes.

And I consider the hundreds of killings by US-government-armed cartels more important than the events at Penn State.

Careful readers will note that my remarks do not constitute a defense of rapists or those who enable them.


94 posted on 11/13/2011 12:06:27 AM PST by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Interesting Times
I do suggest that murder is worse than rape.

When it comes to raping a child, I couldn't disagree more.

95 posted on 11/13/2011 12:33:04 AM PST by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: olezip

“What does Penn State have in the way of training to recognize signs of sexual abuse, responsibilities....”

A man has responsabilities exclusive of training and operating procedure.


96 posted on 11/13/2011 4:45:29 AM PST by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: CitizenReporter

I agree. Thanks. bttt


97 posted on 11/13/2011 7:27:01 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("A Republican Larry Flynt should wave around $50,000 for proof of sexual harassment at Politico" -RL)
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To: Colofornian

BUMP to the top


98 posted on 11/13/2011 7:32:08 AM PST by keeper53 (PENN STATE - SHAME ON YOU)
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To: Colofornian

Look at all the stories about adult female teachers with minor males...do you EVER see them referred to as ‘pedophiles’ or ‘pederasts’? Guess we need categories for all this crap...


99 posted on 11/13/2011 7:42:22 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: olezip

“What does Penn State have in the way of training to recognize signs of sexual abuse, responsibilities....”

Recognizing what is going on when you see a middle-aged man buggering a 10-year-old boy doesn’t require special training.


100 posted on 11/13/2011 8:15:04 AM PST by CitizenReporter
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