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Posted on 11/11/2011 3:19:44 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
PERRY: Yes. You know, I said something at the Orlando debate that was arrogant. May have been because I thought I knew it all because I'd been the governor. As a matter of fact, my wife said, What you said was insulting.
.......And one thing I will promise the American people and -- is that within 12 months, within 12 months of my inaugural, that border will be secure and it will be shut down because we'll put the strategic fencing in place. We'll put the boots on the ground. We'll put the aviation assets in place. And that border will be shut down and secure within 12 months.
.........And to have a conversation about any of these issues until that border is secure is nothing more than an intellectual discussion. I'm not going to engage in those. I'm going to stay focused on the most important things the president of the United States is going to do, dealing with that border, is to secure it.
I know how to do it. I've been dealing with this for 10 years.....
VAN SUSTEREN: Do you do it simultaneously with developing some sort of immigration policy, whatever that may be, for the people who are here illegally in the United States, or do you this in one step, first secure the border, then we'll figure out what to do with that, or do you do it simultaneously?
PERRY: You do the border first. If you do not first secure the border, you're wasting your time. And that is my commitment to the American people. Within 12 months, that border will be shut down, the illegal activities will be stopped, and that border will be secure.....
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
Even if, heaven forbid, Governor Perry loses his very first election, at least he’s taught Newt Gingrich and Herman Cain how to talk about securing the border. They are now using Perry’s plan in their points.
Does he remember which border is the one with the problem?
The Rio Grande serves to slow invaders at least as much as the fence in Arizona - where there is no river (Herman Cain’s “moat”).
i’m not one for debates- the end results are you get unqualified morons like obama voted in...that said perry’s done- a huge disappointment in my eyes...
Perry is the only candidate running who has actually used state taxpayers money to secure the US international border with Mexico.
Why do you not even require a detailed border security plan from the other candidates?
They all have the same plan! Perry has the understanding and the will to implement it because he has seen the effects first hand.
Once the border is secure let's have Congress pass whatever they want but Perry is right, you have to secure the border.
i personally know of two guys who were illegal, deported and were back within a week or so. I saw one driving a delivery truck stopped at a light. He waved to me and told me he was back.
What most people see as illegals in other states more like what a hispanic buddy of mine calls "Mexicoans". I know a guy who was once hired by my buddy, he had all the paperwork and my friend didn't find out till later when the guy was deported for shooting deer on someone elses property. The illegal has kids born in Texas (and therefore citizens I guess) and the hospital named them. His son's name is Josh. He speaks fluent English, works hard, goes to school.
I'm not trying to appeal to your emotions I am trying to get you too see what we're up against here.
So you have an illegal who can get back in whenever he wants, his son is a citizen named Josh, named by the hospital who lives with his dad and goes to school and works here.
It's crazy what has happened since the 80's.
You have to secure the border from illegals riding in on a couple pounds of pot or packed into a truck.
Once that is done a plan can be passed by Congress to deal with them and force whomever is President to sign it.
The guys hanging around the 7-11 will be back in days and if you want e-verify understand this that that will include you too. I don't like this "we have a problem so let's put all American citizens under the same burden as non citizens"
If E-Verify could be used where you and I don't have to mess with it great, otherwise it's just another tool of government to track you.
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You do know Herman Cain on Face the Nation already pretty much nixed the electric fence and is pretty much touting Perry's plan as his own, almost word for word.
Once you see their all the same yo have to ask "who has even put forth the most effort to seal our border?" and than man is Rick Perry, with money, guard, LEO's and pressure on the Federal government.
You have to look at the entire field on this not just smash Perry. I am sure Cain, Mitt and Newt are sitting back laughing at not having to face the same scrutiny as Perry on border security.
The usual hecklers show up spewing their vile hate and misinformation. But look at it this way. At least now, most of the electorate expects Perry to do poorly in a debate. So out of curiosity, perhaps like those who flock around vehicle accidents, they tune in to interviews like FOX, Letterman and Gretta. Then, they find that Perry is very good at speaking and presenting his thoughts.
They are also finding out that his ideas are not as bad as all the rhetoric they have been hearing second hand has claimed. It also shows most good people who vote, that Perry is not only in touch with his humanity, he is very honest about it.
This could still play into Perry’s favor before it is all over. Time will tell.
The most important part of any southern border security plan is double fencing in all areas of the border where illegals are known to cross. Perry rejects that and his notion that the border will ever be secured by "boots on the ground" and aerial surveillance is nonsense. No president will ever put enough personnel on the border - 24/7/365 - because that is the most expensive method of all.
And W already wasted a billion dollars on the idiotic "virtual fence" that was abandoned as a failure a year or two ago. He did that as a ruse to avoid complying with the Secure Fence Act which required 700 miles of double fencing (until Kay Bailey gutted that requirement). See what we get from border state politicians.
Sorry, this "secure the border first" babble is nothing but a second-hand ruse from one more politician who has no intention of enforcing immigration law And, as I said before, this is and hand-me-down from Juan McCain's 2008 and 2010 campaigns. That should really give folks confidence, Lol.
Why won't Perry give us a detailed plan of what he plans for the fifteen or more million illegals already in the US? Oh, yeah, he wants to give them all a work permit, amnesty by any other name.
I strongly disagree, and Perry is in good company asserting that a "Fence Only" solution is doomed to failure. It sounds like a simple fix but it just won't work; there is no way to effectively and secure the entire border with a manned, static fence. Such an enormous expenditure to build a viable fence along the entire border would be a monumental waste, only to be defeated by cheap ladders where no one is present to watch and respond to intruders.
Governor Perry, like most other border state leaders with first-hand experience with the problem, favors "strategic fencing" with elaborate barriers in populated, high-threat areas. But in unpopulated wilderness areas with little illegal activity, active and mobile deterrence is the only viable means of securing that vast and desolate remainder of the border. Aided by technology -- included ground sensors and both manned and unmanned aviation -- mobile forces can be brought to bear where needed to block infiltration or other illegal activity.
A simple fence is not the solution. The only viable to solution is a federal administration that WANTS to seal the border. That is what has been missing.
My eyes are wide open. This article wasn't about all the candidates. It was about Perry and his interview. The first debate I watched, I believe it was Perry's first, they asked the question to several of the candidates about what they would do with the illegals here. NONE of the ones who were asked had the right answer. In fact, none of them had an answer at all. They all talked about how they needed to secure the border. I remember Bachmann particularly repeating the answer about securing the border, and I fussed at the TV that that didn't answer the question. Fact is, though, none of the other candidates have the same issues with the perception of hispandering that Perry does. You can argue whether it is deserved or not, but it's there. From the in-state tuition to the 'heartless' comment from disagreement with Arizona's law when it was first passed, he has a problem. But, he continues to make it worse with these weaselly non-answers.
Just like his brain-fart in the debate. If he had great, or even medicore, performances in the previous debates, one could write it off to just one of those things. But, he has a reputation of being horrible in debates. When you have that reputation, you can't do what he did the other night. He has to come out tougher on illegals than anyone else to change the perception of his being weak on the issue. But, just like at the debates, he can't pull it off.
When Perry first announced, I predicted he would be the next President. He was the more conservative answer to Romney. But, I was embarrassed for him at the first debate, then insulted by him, then fed up with him, and now ready for him to exit stage left.
I don’t see how Perry can overcome his “heartless” thumb in the eye of conservatives and his lousy record of protecting the border (which, I realize the lion’s share of this failure is the federal government’s).
YOU...and millions of taxpayer funded tuition assistance freebies to hand out. La Raza Rick’s a generous man to foreign lawbreakers with our money.
First, they pay their tuition. Yes some get financial aid but the NET after financial aid is deducted from what they pay in tuitions = over $11 million dollars profit. (profit for the universities and community colleges)
Second: The kids getting the in-state (reduced) tuition did not break the law.
Third: It was the Texas Legislature that enacted the law with 99+% Yes votes and Perry could not have changed that under any circumstances. NONE They voted on it again in 2005 and it passed with a unanimous vote. They brought it up recently and only 2 legislatures wanted to eliminate it.
Perry is correct, until the border is secured by the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT then the education problem will not go away thanks to the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. OBAMA is the one you need to blame but you refuse to do so.
Fourth: It is a Texas law. He is sworn to uphold Texas State Laws.
Fifth: If Perry were President, he will swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America.
And that includes securing the border, which he will do since at that time he will have all the resources and funds to do so.
Wow, a voice of reason and intelligence.
Thank You Sir
Thank You for your service to our Country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am Proud of YOU!
PERRY: You do the border first. If you do not first secure the border, you’re wasting your time. And that is my commitment to the American people. Within 12 months, that border will be shut down, the illegal activities will be stopped, and that border will be secure.....
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I do hope Perry can turn things around because I believe he is the only one who will get this done as fast as possible.
The people who want a full fence...that wouldn’t happen in their candidates first term, it would take until well into a second term to happen, if it did happen at all.
Rick Perry: On the Rebound and Ready to Put America Back to Work (and secure the Mexican border)
If he doesn’t forget!
Now if border security is really such a hot issue with everyone, Perry is the only candidate with a proven record of actually attempting to secure the border. The rest is just rhetoric.
I like Bachman but I never once heard of her border fence idea until she ran for President yet she has been sitting in Congress. Where is her border fence bill she wrote?
You’re full of Perry bovine excrement, lady. La Raza Perry hands the in state tuition door keys and taxpayer aid money to foreign illegals and then has the audacity to claim he’s for securing the border, then chides conservatives for being heartless as a cynical attempt at hispandering. To hell with two faced Perry. He should go run for Governor of Chihuahua, if he can survive the storm of bullets.
What has he done as Governor of Texas about the problem?
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