Posted on 11/11/2011 6:47:52 PM PST by Hoodat
How does a survivor of sexual abuse respond to students rioting at Penn State?
"You're not getting it. You just don't get it," said Dave Lorenz who was abused by a priest as a teen.
"It's just stupid youthfulness."
Earlier this week, legendary head football coach Joe Paterno was removed in the midst of a scandal involving sexual abuse allegations against a former defensive coordinator, Jerry Sandusky.
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Watching footage of Penn State students rioting in the streets Wednesday night, Lorenzo shuddered, then hung his head.
What bothered Lorenz is that students "rallied around (Paterno's) house, cheering him up."
"The kids up there just don't understand what this does," he said.
"Stop thinking of the adult and start thinking of what happens to a child that goes through this. You love the adult, you may not know the kid. Start thinking of the kid and the horror they go through, because it's hell."
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Kayla Garriott, a 22-year-old college student who was sexually abused as a child, said the open support for Paterno was disrespectful to survivors.
"That's the first thing people look at -- that their football team is without their head coach that's been there so many years. Nobody looks at the eight children."
The rioters are "never going to be in those children's shoes. It's not about football. It's about eight children who are never going to get back their lives back. They're going to live with this the rest of their lives. They might not get over that."
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...
One word: “Google.” :;
Seriously though. It is not hard to find.
“If you haven’t looked at FREEPER NewinTexsas’ list of who had prior knowledge of what Sandusky was up to...please review...I’m sure he might repost it on this thread.”
Thanks for the ping:
People we know that knew Sandusky raped little boys.
President Spanier
AD Curley
VP Schultz
PSU Attorney Wendell Courtney
Second Mile Attorney Wendell Courtney
University Police (Detective Ronald Schreffler)
State College Police (Detective Ralph Ralston)
Department of Welfare (Investigator Jerry Lauro)
Child Services
County DA Gricar
County Prosecutors
Coach McQueary
Dr. McQueary (Chief Operating Officer/Administrative Director Centre Medical)
Coach Paterno
Various elementary and high school officials
John DiNunzio (Keystone Central School District Interim Superintendent)
Second Mile officials
Second Mile President Jack Raykovitz
Joe Paterno’s staff including down to the janitors
Still to be determined:
Media
NCAA Coaches (Nobody wanted him when he retired)
Board of Trustees
School Teachers
READ the GD Grand Jury report. It's been out a week!
Since you do not 'follow' it would be a good idea for you to 'gather a few facts' before coming here and claiming no one has any facts.
I have friends in academia and college coaching. Buddy yesterday spoke with Bobby Bowden who told him that everyone thought Sandusky was gay.
I’m in Dallas. Welcome, NewinTexas.
I think she at least needs to be investigated...considering the alleged call she made to one of the victim's prior to his GJ testimony.
If that is proven to be the case, then yes, absolutely, she should also be investigated and charged with covering up for the crime.
The point I was trying to make, and perhaps didn’t make all so well, was that we shouldn’t go on a witch hunt and presume that everyone and anyone even remotely involved is automatically guilty without knowing all the evidence. If Sandusky’s wife knew of his child abuse and was active in trying to cover up his crimes, then yes, she should be held accountable. And I'd have no problem with that.
I'm NW of Houston. Barry Switzer said no way everyone didn't know. You just don't keep that sort of thing secret in the locker room for that long.
If somebody you deeply trusted, respected and admired told you to avoid making a business deal with "Person A" telling you little more than "he's bad news," you would probably heed their advice, even in the absence of any hard evidence. There's nothing wrong with that, and in fact, most of life's decisions are made absent, "all the facts." Unsurprisingly, it seems to me, people with a strong moral compass still tend to make better decisions in the absence of all the information than those who don't have a strongly internalized sense of values to guide them.
For example, I (and all of us) only have a few facts about McQueary's inaction at the time he says he saw Sandusky raping the boy. At this point, no charges have been brought against him, much less adjudicated in a court of law, and in those regards he's fully entitled to the presumption of innocence. That does not in any way preclude me from forming an opinion (a 'judgment') about his role in this based on what I know. I don't have the power to try, convict or sentence him in a legal sense, so I do not have to observe the legal rules of evidence in forming my opinions and actions about him. If he were a member of my community I most certainly would base my actions and interactions with him on my opinions and avoid anything to do with him.
Hypothetically, it may come out that he had a perfectly legitimate, wholesome reason for dithering and walking away from a naked 50-something ass-raping a young boy in the shower, and if that would ever come to light, I'd re-evaluate my opinion of him. As it stands, I can't possibly imagine any possible explanation other than sheer cowardice, and I'll speak of him and his inaction in that regard until I'm persuaded otherwise.
I would imagine if it were McQueary himself, or his little brother being sodomized, he'd have either physically tried to end it immediately, or at the minimum, not hesitated to call 911 at the earliest opportunity. If by his own testimony, he was able to look into the eyes of that boy and simply turn his back to him...that's all I really need to know.
LOL, so now Barry Switzer is the new authority.
Keep adding people to your list. Soon we’ll have over a thousand people who knew. Because that’s the logical conclusion - everybody knew Sandusky was a child rapist and they protected him. Makes perfect sense, but why stop there? If you’re accusing dozens or hundreds of people of being complicit, why not accuse the townspeople as well?
Thank you, Joe 6-pack.
It's not called College State and University City for nuttin'
Wonder if Fidel will be pulling for the Nittany Lions today?
Paterno is a control freak; he knew. His assistant and the assistant’s dad told him in a face-to-face conversation. He was forced to retire for this very reason. Are you trying to say that Paterno would essentially fire a 30-year assistant for no reason?
Paterno made the decision that the facade of integrity and morality at Peen State was more important than the boys who were sexually brutalized. It really is that simple.
Paterno didn’t deserve an in-person firing.
Thanks for pinging me on this thread. I live in the east and it was way past my time to be up. This subject cannot be defended or excused. I had no desire to argue with those that are angry yet loyal. Soon that will become a realization that enablers allowed this to go on, their beloved coach included.
I merely said that I hadn't SEEN any.
LOt's of people stating things, but with no LINKS to the ACTUAL police reports.
I guess Joe Paterno’s choice of a high-profile, high-pressure attorney was a good one.
Wick Sollers is on the job now, doing damage control, as we can see by this thread with many “new” FReepers rushing to defend Paterno.
PUHLEEZE! It’s so transparent.
NY Daily News:
Joe Paterno hired a high-powered Washington lawyer to represent him Friday because, his son said, he wants to find the truth in the sex-abuse scandal enveloping Penn State University.
“My father’s desire is for the truth to be uncovered and he will work with his lawyers to that end,” said Scott Paterno, who confirmed that his father had hired J. Sedgwick “Wick” Sollers, who has represented former president George H.W. Bush in the past.
But legal experts wondered if he had begun to fear federal action in the case as well as Pennsylvania’s ongoing criminal investigation.
Paterno
Here, that took 5 seconds.
http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Press/Sandusky-Grand-Jury-Presentment.pdf
Kudos to Lancey for his post, and thanks for repeating it for those of us who missed it.
When are you going to quit spreading that lie?
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