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How Many Victims of Penn State Homosexual Predator Jerry Sandusky Will Think They are ‘Gay’?
Americans For Truth About Homosexuality ^ | November 10, 2011 | Peter LaBarbera

Posted on 11/13/2011 6:04:45 AM PST by Diago

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To: SaraJohnson

Yes, and that is part of the sodomite agenda, now masking itself in “anti-bullying.”

It’s all about repressing the normal male behavior of fighting off sodomite overtures.

Even McQueary, 28 at the time, fell victim to this brainwashing, and failed to save a ten year old boy from anal rape.


101 posted on 11/13/2011 9:21:29 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: JoenTX

S/B “Evidence of same” at the end of my last.
I have a bad habit on threads like this of touch typing very fast and hitting “post.”


102 posted on 11/13/2011 9:22:47 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SaraJohnson

And I’m not shutting up about it. Even in my novels, I have some homosexual predators, and I’ve been slammed for it.

Homos are a protected sub-species, doncha know. They may only be heroes, and never villains, in fiction.


103 posted on 11/13/2011 9:24:44 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

I’m not familiar with that terminology. What is the difference between a pederast and a pedophile? Thanks for any information you have.


104 posted on 11/13/2011 9:38:17 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Travis McGee

“... part of the sodomite agenda, now masking itself in anti-bullying”.

I have never really thought about it that way but it does make sense. What we define as “bullying” now usually involves Gay/Bi/Lesbian/Transgendered youths. A kid can still technically laugh at someone who wears glasses, tall/short, skinny/fat... but laugh at some boy wearing heels and purple eyeshadow and they are expelled from school. There are tons of ads called, “It gets better”... essentially telling the children to accept their homosexuality and in time... life gets better for them.


105 posted on 11/13/2011 9:39:18 AM PST by momtothree
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To: Travis McGee
The effect of adult female sexual predators on boys depends upon the experience.

Would you agree that adult women who prey upon boys sexually are not the most mentally balanced people to be introducing boys to sex with females? There is a huge power difference in these relationships that put boys at the mercy of the adult female. If the experience is dark, would this effect a boy's sexual imprinting and result in him not being comfortable or real with normal women sexually? But we agree that being molested by a female adult versus a male adult are totally different animals in consequence for the psychology boys.

One of the major problems I see for boys and girls today is that they are not socialized to understand that sex exists within a larger inspiration called love and caring. Sex can be a mechanical process of sexual expression but that kind of sex (I call it head sex - masturbation with or without another person involved) is different from real sex that involves, touches and entwines the spirit or soul of a male and a female. One produces physical satisfaction and the other produces physical satisfaction combined with an explosion of love known only to humans. It's a blessed thing that is really hard to put in secular terms but all young people should know that it exists. It is like trying to explain to people what it is like when the Holy Spirit embraces you.

106 posted on 11/13/2011 9:39:51 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Travis McGee

The grand jury report described how Sandusky selected his victims. It had nothing to do with being girly. It has everything to do with the self confidence and instinct necessary to reject his assertive grooming advances.


107 posted on 11/13/2011 9:42:23 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Travis McGee

Powerful post.


108 posted on 11/13/2011 9:45:17 AM PST by Mr. Fabtastic (Cain is rapidly gaining on Fred Gwynne as my favorite Herman.)
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To: momtothree

I agree with you. Just to be clear, you put a quote on your post to me that I did not make.


109 posted on 11/13/2011 9:55:09 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Travis McGee

Male.....the nic goes back to my gaming days.


110 posted on 11/13/2011 9:59:58 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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To: JoenTX

In the anecdote that you give, how do you know that abuse of some kind, at some age, by some family friend or relative, was not present? Please don’t simply blast me for pointing this out.. Many things go on in families behind closed doors that no one but the actual participants know about.


111 posted on 11/13/2011 10:01:47 AM PST by Mr. Fabtastic (Cain is rapidly gaining on Fred Gwynne as my favorite Herman.)
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To: SaraJohnson

My bad. I think I pulled something from post #75 and simply elaborated on the thought.


112 posted on 11/13/2011 10:09:15 AM PST by momtothree
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To: momtothree

It’s okay.


113 posted on 11/13/2011 10:14:35 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Travis McGee
Yes, and that is part of the sodomite agenda, now masking itself in “anti-bullying.”

Major League Baseball is buying into that 'It Gets Better' campaign...I know the Boston Ped...er, Red Sox are sponsors, and there are several other teams involved.

114 posted on 11/13/2011 10:14:59 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: JoenTX

A lot of what we learn emotionally is learned before we are able to process it mentally so it feels to us as if it is just a natural emotion/feeling. This is true for lots of things besides feelings of emotional or sexual attraction.

For instance, my dad was emotionally abused by his mother and it has affected his life ever since. He has a violent temper as well, and my emotions “learned” from before I was able to even process it that if Dad blew up it was somebody else’s fault. I “learned” that if somebody else is mad at you it’s your fault. My husband grew up in a home that was the same way. When we got married I had lots of problems because our relationship had that same basic emotional foundation. I went to a counselor who told me that if just concentrated on pleasing my husband everything would be fine. I kept struggling with a strong desire to drive off the road on the way home from those counseling sessions, for some reason.

It was only when I began to deal with a recurring nightmare (that I had been having ever since I was a teen) that I began to realize the “automatic thoughts” that my mind had accepted. (The idea of “automatic thoughts” was the one valuable thing I got from the counseling sessions). I had “learned” that my dad’s anger was my fault, and as a result I “learned” to automatically think (when somebody was angry) that it must have been something I did. That thought/belief led me to FEEL guilty, even when I intellectually knew it was not my fault. I could reason with myself all day but still had the FEELING. That’s because my first, automatic thoughts opposed reason. They weren’t based on reason. They were based on a little 2-year-old girl trying to make emotional sense out of her world in a Pavlov’s-dog type of way. What should have been dealt with on an intellectual level was handled on an EMOTIONAL level, so I learned an EMOTIONAL response that I couldn’t overcome through reasoning.

All I could observe as an adult was my feelings. Those feelings “came natural” to me. But they were problematic. For me to accept that those feelings are just the way I had to live the rest of my life would have been a death sentence. We are not at the mercy of our feelings. Our feelings are there for a reason.

When I was trying to figure out and correct the problem so that my feelings would make sense, I tried a lot of other things that I thought would get my feelings where they needed to be. One of those things I tried was getting married. Having a guy think I was wonderful would fix everything, right? It didn’t. In 4th grade I decided to try being useful. That got more people to like me but it didn’t fix my feelings. I tried being a missionary to atheists as a reason to justify my existence; that didn’t work either. Nothing I tried worked. My feelings were only fixed when I finally emotionally came to terms with the fact that good people can still have others be mad at them. Having somebody be mad at you isn’t a “guilty” verdict.

Since I am not looking to my husband to validate my existence and his anger doesn’t threaten my emotional stability, our relationship is totally different than it was. Since I am not looking to my “missionary work” to validate my existence I don’t have to clutch desperately to it and have it run my life, which frees me up to go whatever direction the Lord truly does lead. I’m much healthier now than I’ve ever been, even though I still sometimes have to fight my feelings all over again.

The point of this long missive is that we think of our feelings as being who we are, but emotional feelings have causes just as much as toothaches have causes. When we adjust our chewing to accommodate a toothache it causes other problems in our life - displaces the pain so maybe the tooth doesn’t hurt but the jaw does. Or maybe there is no obvious pain but there is tension that eats away silently and causes chronic ulcerative colitis (which is how my husband dealt with the dysfunction rising from his dad’s emotional and physical abuse as a kid).

So a person may well say that they have these “natural” feelings and have had them their entire life, and yet those feelings may be the only clue the person has that will point them to a source of deep problems in their life.

I am a normal, rational, capable person who would not be classified as mentally imbalanced. And yet I spent a large part of my life suffering because of irrational feelings that I thought were normal because I had always had them. There was a rational reason for me to have those feelings, and they were not my fault. But they were hurtful to me and caused me to behave in sometimes-desperate ways. A person in similar circumstances could well have sexualized their response and had catastrophic results.


115 posted on 11/13/2011 10:28:56 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: ETL

The United States has evidently adopted a duplicitous policy with regard to pederasty by assigning it to ¨cultural norms¨ in Afghanistan and other Islamic societies and that our military forces therein should just ¨look the other way¨.

What do our ¨leaders¨ - at every level - have to say about that? Not much it seems. Thus we freely evidently accept this role, and become the same accomplices to this monstrous crime as those at Penn State.


116 posted on 11/13/2011 10:35:45 AM PST by onedoug (lf)
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To: JoenTX; Travis McGee

I think where you may feel a conflict in your personal experience with the lesbian versus what Travis is saying in is thread, is that this thread is about homosexuals who prey on boys and the effect it has on those boys.

Grooming is when homosexual child predators approach boys sexually to see if they would make good victims. They violate the taboo against homosexual adults interacting mentally and physically in a sexual way with boys. Sandusky’s grand jury report explains his methodology very well and it is the pattern commonly used by homo predators on boys. He did not pick on “girly” boys. He approached boys sexually and the boys who had the instinct to get away from him and the inner strenght to resist his efforts to dominate them were left alone. Those who acted like deer caught in the headlights, were dominated and raped.

After a boy is raped there is a continous process of manipulating and traumatizing him by the predator. Men who are abused as boys often suffer depression, sexual idenity issues, anger issues, shame and guilt issues... There is a high rate of homosexuals who were abused as boys and there is a high rate of suicide among young homoseuxal males. These tragedies are related.

Ask yourself why the “activists” are going after the children to exceed the taboos against interacting with boys sexually - groom them for homosexuality and dictate how they must interact with homo aggression so that they are not evil haters, bullies and homophobes. They are socializing boys to be deer caught in the headlights when they are confronted by homo aggression.

You are entering into a on-going conversation about homosexual boy rape and telling Travis, a man who is paying attention, to shut up because you know two homos so you are the expert on boy child abuse. Take this chance to find out about this problem and HELP!!!! One in six boys are molested - twice the rate of girls. Consider this in light of the fact that many more boys and girls never tell the truth about what happened to them.


117 posted on 11/13/2011 10:37:24 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Travis McGee

OK, what’s the difference? I’ve seen several suggested.

1. one was pre-pubescent (no pubic hair - I think this was pedophilia) vs. post-pubescent (pubic hair - I think this was pederasty).

2. pederasty = boys only; pedophilia = boys or girls

3. pederasty = statutory rape
pedophilia = anything up to that point.
(linguistically this is the most defensible)


118 posted on 11/13/2011 10:41:43 AM PST by scrabblehack
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To: momtothree

I thought it was interesting that Ron Brown’s prayer before the Penn State-Nebraska game was, in part, that they would all play with all their strength and integrity, knowing that young boys all over the country would be looking to them as a way to learn what manliness means.

I was so glad that Bo Pelini made the comments he did - that football is nothing compared to the lives of young people, and protecting them. Again, that’s a public figure displaying manliness - the manly desire to protect the vulnerable rather than exploit them. It flies in the face of a whole society that is built on exploiting the vulnerable - either by lying to them, taking from them, or whatever.

We have in the White House today a man who believes that children born alive after a failed abortion should legally be allowed to be killed either through neglect or an outright act of violence. All because he claims that simply allowing that child to live would be “too much of a burden” on a woman. IOW, this politician is exploiting tiny infants in order to get the votes of the women who want to abuse those tiny infants. Politician exploits woman by offering her the opportunity to exploit the very most vulnerable among us.

Sick, sick, sick. What can a creep like that, or anybody who supports that exploitation, have to say about real manliness? They are grown-up bullies in male bodies, that’s all. And it’s no wonder our young people are confused. The whole society is exploiting every vulnerability they can find.


119 posted on 11/13/2011 10:49:14 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: texas_mrs

The first media reports about AIDS were about the beginning of 1981 I think (although I think it was a bit later before the name was adopted). The Red Cross when screening blood donations uses the year 1977 as a cut-off (they won’t accept blood from a male who has had sex with another male since 1977). I once read about a mysterious case in St. Louis from the 1960s—a teenage boy was dying and the doctors couldn’t figure out what the matter was. They saved a blood sample and after the AIDS epidemic became known they tested it and discovered that the boy had had AIDS.


120 posted on 11/13/2011 11:03:44 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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