Skip to comments.How Many Victims of Penn State Homosexual Predator Jerry Sandusky Will Think They are ‘Gay’?
Posted on 11/13/2011 6:04:45 AM PST by Diago
Americans For Truth About Homosexuality
November 10, 2011; Contact: Peter LaBarbera: firstname.lastname@example.org
CHICAGOThe discovery that former Penn State University defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky has been molesting boys as young as 10 years old and that university officials including head coach Joe Paterno did not do more to apprehend this predator has shocked America. Peter LaBarbera, president of Americans For Truth About Homosexuality (AFTAH), said the scandal exposes the continuing problem of homosexual predators in society. He offers the following observations related to the PSU scandal:
Thanks, Tax-chick! I have heard about this happening but I never knew there was a “word” for it. Makes you wonder about the women, doesn’t it? Were they the type who were “asexual” or the type of person not to question why their husband didn’t want them sexually? I know in my Mom’s day and age, an unmarried man was “looked at” as being possibly odd. If he wanted to move up in his career or be accepted, he would have to be married. Even in her small town, there were men who married (and had ongoing affairs with other men).
I learned it on FR ;-).
Makes you wonder about the women, doesnt it?
I wonder about a LOT of women's life-choices! Unless one is thinking about AIDS, there's not a lot of difference between marrying a homosexual philanderer and a heterosexual one. An agreement to have a couple of kids, perhaps ... a certain amount of discretion ... and then they live separate lives.
I would imagine this could happen more “secretly” in olden times. For one thing, the couple could remain chaste without today’s morality standards. So, the wife finds out on her wedding night that he isn’t interested. Then what? Does she file for divorce? Well, women of that time who divorced were seen in bad terms. Plus, many women didn’t openly discuss such situations even with family. Strange stuff!
True, a lot of weird stuff in life.
Yes. A marriage, or a dating, relationship.
She files for civil annulment. The old rule was that grounds for annulment were that they had never "consummated" the marriage. A civil annulment is different from a Church annulment.
“I think if you probed the backgrounds of most gay men, you would find similar stories of grooming and seduction by sodomite pederasts.”
I’ve never seen a case of same-sex attraction disorder that did not begin with a seduction or molestation in the pre-adult years.
I’ve seen some sodomites start out denying that, but if you stay with it, you can identify it.
“Ive heard surveillance tapes of pedophiles talking about how much they want to be exactly like the adult who molested them”
In psychobabble that’s called “identification with the oppressor.”
When I think of McCreaky(?) walking in on that 10 year old boy and Sandusky and the boy probably thinking that he was going to be rescued...... How could ANYONE walk away from that situation and not rescue the child and beat the crap out of Sandusky?!
“Ive worked with many gay people and the vast majority have had rather normal up-bringings without histories of molestation to hear them tell it.”
Which is to say, they lied.
Greek has several words for love
eros is sexual love - pederasty is derived from this word
philos is brotherly love - whence pedophilia but of course it is a euphemism.
agape is Godly love
butterdezillion - I have come across a 4th distinction - that the pederast acts on his desires while the pedophile has the desires but may not act? I wasn’t quite sure what you meant by “sexualizes/objectifies a non-sexual child.”
It’s a sick, sick repeating cycle, and that’s why it needs to be stamped up as soon as it appears. In the Sandusky case, there is no excuse for him not to have been “outed” after 1998. For him to continue to have a free office on campus is sick. For the coaches to see him bring boys to games adn practices is sick. It should have been stopped years before it was. That will be the eternal shame of PSU.
I know enough about them to wish them old fashioned remedies such as riding a rail, tarred and feathered, or worse.
Angela's first husband was Richard Cromwell (Roy Radabaugh), married on September 27, 1945 in Independence (California). It wasn't a "happy marriage": Angela realized her approach to marriage had been immature; then in August 1946, after 11 months, she obtained the divorce from Roy in Los Angeles.
That is a bunch of BS. In the first place, look at the length of the marriage! It takes (or did in those days) a year to get a divorce in CA. That's why Las Vegas was invented -- quickie divorces. The way I heard it is that the marriage was promoted by the studios and by her mother as a path to stability (money and parts). She found out on the wedding night that her husband was not the man he pretended to be. Poof! Marriage over.
I just cannot imagine what goes through a woman’s mind when something like that happened. I mean they would initially feel it had to do “with them” vs the fact that their new husband was more into the pool boy. In my neighborhood (when I was a kid), there was a doctor who cheated on his wife. Well, she found out and demanded to know who the other “woman” was... it was a man. They divorced but it completely devastated their two daughters. The girls were around 11 and 13 so understood what homosexuality basically meant. Here is what is interesting: all of the women in the neighborhood were shocked. I mean SHOCKED. However, most of the men in the neighborhood weren’t. They had picked up on something that the women didn’t. What for sure? No idea but I still find it interesting that the men weren’t shocked.
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Which means, in order for your mental breakdown of who and what homosexuals must be, you have to believe they did to make sense of things.
It may be your reality, but, it’s not the actual reality.
Now, how is developing a same-sex lifestyle somehow different for men and women? It’s about emotional and physical stimulation and response it seems.
IF a man can disgust a girl and she then finds features of the same sex more desirable, how is that any different than a boy who finds girls undesirable and then resorts to other males? That doesn’t make sense. It’s the same thing.
I’ve known the family now for 17 years. They are a “good” Southern Baptist family. Admittedly, I recognize the oxymoron contained within that statement.
This girl has been my best friend for many years. I fish with her father and her mother puts a stocking up for me at Christmas time. I’ve never been closer to anyone or another family in my life. There is not a hint of deception or secrets among them. She knows everything about me and I know enough after all of these years about her to pick up on clues of abuse. They aren’t there. I’d trust her and her family with my last $100 if it came down to it.
The dynamics are different for lesbians than for homosexual men. For women, from what I’ve read, the issue revolves more around the feeling of lacking a mother’s nurture. And that can happen even if things seem very close between the whole family or between the mom and daughter even.
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Excellent discussion on the thread. Even if you don't get to some other pings (I've had computer problems and pinging is not that easy right now), this is very good - discussion of how pederasts groom boys, what happens to the boys, how many - studies say the majority - of homosexuals were molested bey pederasts, etc.
A couple of years ago there was a prominent lesbian academia type who passed away.
When you read the news about her life, you could click on a link that took you to a list of prominent “womyn’s studies” types with short bios after each one.
I remember recurring themes that seemed to contradict the whole “born this way” meme...
- anger at daddy
- anger at a boyfriend or husband
- many described a life of being straight - and then retraining themselves to change. (out of a sense of anger)
- I remember one describing her former addiction “to the male gaze” - which she freed herself from.
anger, anger, anger.
To have sexual feelings for a person who is not sexual is a bit like having sexual feelings for a table. Whatever it is that they are attracted to in the child, it isn’t the child’s sexuality but they make it all about sex.
I actually suspect that what they are attracted to is the child’s innocence but I don’t know if they want to take part in the innocence and the only way they know to take part in anything is sexual, or if they want to somehow make sex innocent by involving somebody innocent, or whether they subconsciously want to destroy somebody else’s innocence the way theirs was destroyed...
I don’t know the pathology of it. But whereas it is understandable that a person could be turned on by a young person with sexual features and capabilities, erotic thoughts about a child with no sexual features seems about like having erotic thoughts about a pet bunny. To get sexual thoughts from a pet bunny you’d have to view that bunny as the means to the end of some kind of sexual pleasure. And anything can be the means for getting sexual pleasure, if you don’t worry about what it is.
That’s what I mean by sexualizing or objectifying - viewing the child as a sexual object rather than a real human being that happens to be sexually appealing.
Ive worked with many gay people and the vast majority have had rather normal up-bringings without histories of molestation to hear them tell it.
What you say is precisely the opposite of every study that’s been done, and the conclusion drawn by therapists who work with homosexuals helping them repair their lives. I don’t quite believe you...
BUMP a great thread title.
At least one third of all child molesting is same sex. Get it? SAME SEX.
One third. At least.
And homosexual perverts are at most 2% of the population.
Homosexuals have been known throughout history as pedophiles and pederasts.
Your support of homosexual agenda talking point lies is duly noted.
This pervert didn’t touch any rough and tumble all boy young men. He concentrated on the shy, subdued ones. The ones who couldn’t throw a baseball or catch a football. He had them to stay late and assist him in the upkeep of the facility.. . . then he’d groom them for rape!
Did you ever see “The Color Purple”? Lesbian sex was presented as a contrast to the dad’s rape which “always felt like he was pissing on me” (or words to that effect).
I remember times when it was so much more comfortable to commisserate with women when guys had acted like jerks, and I could see a woman wanting somebody who could understand her, rather than somebody so different from her. I think emotions sometimes have a bigger impact on women.
Joe here is pushing homosexual agenda talking point lies.
It’s that simple.
I wish I remembered who that woman was and what page those bios were on.
It was very revealing. And incredibly sad.
I’m very glad that you portrayed some homosexual villains in your books. Well done!
I had a flamboyantly gay professor for PSYCH 101, which I took as a blow off glass Senior Year of Under Grad.
The school I went to was on trimesters so the class lasted for 10 weeks. Each week he would constantly argue the "nature vs. nurture" and argue that gay is via nature.
Well the fact that I am religious makes me biased however, wouldn't anyone with a knowledge of science realize that argument is false due to the fact that it leads to the extinction of a species???
So for the 400th post I've made on this subject if you are a parent with a student in school, PLEASE make sure you know what they are being taught. This radical gay professor turned the class from Psychology 101 to Gay Psycho 101.
I’m not “pushing” anything.
I do not agree with homosexuals being allowed to marry. Marriage is a centuries long mechanism of recording heredity and blood lines. Faith and religion are separate things. I have faith but I don’t belong to any religion. I can’t understand why so many find peace and solace with their same sex. I simply can’t. Yet, I know they do while functioning perfectly normally in ever other aspect of life. Paying their taxes. Abiding by traffic laws. Getting to work on time. Even going to Church. They do them all just like you and I.
Where, just exactly, do I morally condemn and damn for doing the same things as I? I ask? They are God’s creation just as you and I going about life just as you and I would do so.
It’s clearly no secret that the Bible does not serve me. It’s also clear that the New Testament does not serve everyone. I believe in good people...not the devout. They are serious and different things. Good and deserving people are one thing. Hollow and professing people are quite another.
I trust in the actions of my fellow person, not their church. I can’t care less about their religion, I care about their morality.
“but, its not the actual reality”
Oh, yes, it’s the truth.
Yeah, I think I’d be ignorant not to recognize that these situations do exist. Has to be a challenging situation for the family. I wish you all well.
All of them, NAMBLAs motto is After eight is too late
While what you write above is easy enough to believe, that's not NAMBLA's motto. It's actually the motto or another group called the Rene Guyon Society. Of course both organizations have members who are mentally sick...
Personally I have no liberals who are coming to Sandusky's defense and few who are upbraiding PSU for firing Paterno
To answer the question: Children are only young once. Molesting a child is the most selfish act one can commit. One is literally stealing moments from a child's life that can never be replaced.
When one thinks of one's first sexual encounter the memories are invariably pleasant--perhaps awkward--but memories one will carry throughout life.
Sandusky has planted himself into the memories of all his victims for the rest of their lives. My heart goes out to his victims who will always have Sandusky to "thank" for turning them out into sex.
Who the hell does he think he is to bring the "gift of sex" if you will, to these boys? They will never experience the joy, the wonder, the mystery that goes with discovering "what adults do."
This is why what Sandusky did is wrong.
You are pushing the lie of the homosexual agenda that homosexuals are born that way. They are not born that way. Same sex attraction is not biological, it is not genetic, it is learned. In one study, 80% or so of homosexuals had experienced molesting, which includes seduction, by older homosexuals in their early years - as children or adolescents.
There is so much information on this thread posted by others that there’s no need for me to try to repeat it.
You ignore what people who are very knowledgeable have poasted, you insult others, and you are lying.
Why’re you’re still on FR I don’t know. I have no idea why you’re trotting religion and God into the discussion; I didn’t.
And you absolutely lie when you say “I can’t undestand why so many find peace and solace with their same sex”.
ROTFLMAO! It’s well known - common undeniable fact - that homosexuals are not peaceful! Not happy! Not “gay” at all! High rates of violence, crime in general, rapes, sex crimes, “domestic partner” violence, drug addiction, aloholism, fatal and chronic diseases, mental illness, promiscuity - you name it, they have it or do it - at much, much higher rates than the general popultiona - INCLUDING MUCH HIGHER RATES OF MOLESTING KIDS!
You are a lying homosexual agenda pushing troll.
My point is that liberals push for the age of consent to be lowered to 12. If sex is just a legal issue then eventually what Sandusky did won’t be wrong will it?
Imagine these same boys, now dealing with the issues you’ve bring up, getting involved in the same lifestyle with adult males, but when they’re adults. Is that wrong?
We have to break the cycle and part of that is recognizing sexual deviancy for what it is and not accepting it as normal.
I know there is a movement by some to lower the age of consent. We have to fight that.
There’s a gigantic public push to lower the age of consent, from universities, psychologists and other academics and professionals.
It’s insanely evil.
It’s also to be expected; Harry Hays, the initial architect of the “Gay Rights” movement in the US, was a card carrying Communist party member, and also thought pedophilia should be normalized; IIRC he was involved in NAMBLA as well.
The homosexual agenda’s first list of demands included:
The ELIMINATIONA OF ALL AGE OF CONSENT LAWS.
Wagglebee, just alerting you to this homosexual agenda pushing troll. He’s trotting out all the lies. Somebody is not doing their job of zotting him. I have to go out for a while but will be back. He’s also a Romney supporter, sort of stealth, from my cursory scan of some of his comemnts.
It is apparent that wags believes in what CS Lewis calls “THE pernicious lie”, that people are basically good instead of basically fallen (as the Bible tells us).
From this pernicious lie, all other faulty conclusions can and will be reached.
What is it that you think I believe?
What you are accusing me of couldn't be further from the truth.
You are trying to legitimize a mental illness that often leads to serious physical illness and an early death.
Where, just exactly, do I morally condemn and damn for doing the same things as I? I ask? They are Gods creation just as you and I going about life just as you and I would do so.
Take your Kumbaya-singing crap somewhere else troll.
This is like saying that murderers are "God's creation" and we should just leave them alone.
Its clearly no secret that the Bible does not serve me.
It's also no secret who you serve.
I trust in the actions of my fellow person, not their church. I cant care less about their religion, I care about their morality.
Yet you are condoning immorality.
Misread who the poster was - apologies.
It was little jeremiah that wrote post 184 to which I was commenting.
LJ also does not believe the pernicious lie.