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Cain leads GOP field in Battleground poll (New Politico Poll Shows Cain 27-25 Over Romney)
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Posted on 11/13/2011 10:38:16 PM PST by icwhatudo

(Buried deep down in the 6th paragraph were the actual polling results)

"In the full sample, based on four days of national polling, Romney finished second with 25 percent (behind Cain’s 27 percent). Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Texas Gov. Rick Perry tied for third at 14 percent."

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The POLITICO/George Washington University Battleground Poll of 1,000 likely voters, including 436 Republicans, was conducted Nov. 6-9 by The Tarrance Group and Lake Research Partners. The nationwide telephone survey had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; cain; frontrunner; hermancain; politico
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To: icwhatudo

Thanks for going over this poll. Was there even weighting by man / woman ?


51 posted on 11/14/2011 12:58:04 AM PST by Fred (no job no house no gas no food no problem Obama 2012)
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To: Cobra64

I have been watching this on ole Newt

First Amend, NOT!!!
Newt Gingrich Co-Sponsored the 1987 Pro-Fairness Doctrine Bill
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2011/04/29/newt-gingrich-co-sponsored-the-1987-pro-fairness-doctrine-bill/

Howard Dean Endorses Newt
http://articles.cnn.com/2010-07-25/politics/gingrich.dean_1_newt-gingrich-gingrich-candidacy-howard-dean?_s=PM:POLITICS

Stop the Insanity say no to Newt
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-11-10/politics/30381368_1_newt-gingrich-conservatives-herman-cain

Newt with his BFFS Princess Pelosi, Kerry and Al Sharpton
http://www.mofopolitics.com/2011/11/09/friendly-reminder-newt-gingrich-is-a-rino-wimp-and-a-scumbag/

Newt loves HC mandates always has
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2011/05/13/newt-gingrich-long-time-supporter-of-health-insurance-mandates/3/


52 posted on 11/14/2011 1:02:43 AM PST by Fred (no job no house no gas no food no problem Obama 2012)
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To: newzjunkey

It is not ignoring, it is that conservatives DO NOT AGREE with your assessment of how Cain is performing.

So go ahead and use the liberal talking point of ignoring, it is old and tired and it will be ignored.

Cain is the best out of all the candidates on positions and his background.


53 posted on 11/14/2011 1:09:50 AM PST by Fred (no job no house no gas no food no problem Obama 2012)
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To: icwhatudo
The surging motor mouth newt had a short run. LOL
54 posted on 11/14/2011 1:38:42 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Graybeard58
"Seems not too long ago, it was, “Rove, you magnificent bastard”.

Yup the same bunch that gave us Bush are now trying to feed us Cain. Must be some kind of an empty suit thing, personally I don't understand it.

55 posted on 11/14/2011 1:51:21 AM PST by jpsb
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To: org.whodat

I see the surging motor mount that is org.whodat is still going strong.


56 posted on 11/14/2011 2:01:57 AM PST by jpsb
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To: icwhatudo
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57 posted on 11/14/2011 3:21:58 AM PST by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: jpsb
A motor mount is the device that holds your motor in your car, in drag racing we used to replace them with elephant ears. Just another little something you know nothing about.
58 posted on 11/14/2011 4:16:36 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: PhilDragoo

Ed Rollins on CNN said Cain was in 3rd place... Are the RINOs just making up things as they go along? Like saying a lie enough times and hoping its true?


59 posted on 11/14/2011 4:48:59 AM PST by bigdirty
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To: Jim Robinson

I agree with you 100% Jim.


60 posted on 11/14/2011 5:41:28 AM PST by ohioman
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To: PhilDragoo

Ah....Rove......the traitor with 3 chins : )


61 posted on 11/14/2011 5:50:06 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: icwhatudo

..inching toward Iowa and Cain is still standing—the man, the message, and the money...


62 posted on 11/14/2011 5:55:16 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: bigdirty

There’s lies, d@mn lies, and polls. Aka “selective reinforcement.” When your guy is really ahead, brag about it as much as possible. When he’s behind, find a bad poll with a poor sampling and amplify the misinformation. Bottom line, its good to see Cain doing well after the propaganda dump, but this game will be won or lost on the ground, where the real “voting” has already begun.


63 posted on 11/14/2011 5:57:00 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: CainConservative; mylife; wmfights; P-Marlowe

I wouldn’t expect a newbie who signed up a week ago to be calling out a freeper who has been around for nearly a decade.

If you don’t recognize that Cain has real weaknesses, and that he is not necessarily electable versus Obama, then I think advice from your corner is ignorable.

There are conservatives in this race. From most to least conservative, I would rank them: Santorum/Bachmann, Gingrich/Perry/Cain, and Paul. Romney and Huntsman are not conservatives and should really be running in the democratic primary.

I appears that all the attacks on Cain’s personal behavior have been out of the democratic attack machine based in Chicago.

Just as a hypothetical, what would be the advantage to the democrats in revealing right now a deadly absolute-proof-of-sexual-harassment “2012 October surprise” against Cain, now variously leading the republican polls, that would take him down right now?


64 posted on 11/14/2011 5:57:56 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: Graybeard58

Bob Dole, John McCain, ...Mitt Romney? Not this time.


65 posted on 11/14/2011 5:58:23 AM PST by Eddie01
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To: BenKenobi

“Why don’t we just do “Random acts of Cainness”.

Do something nice for someone totally out of the blue, but leave a 9-9-9 behind. :)”

AH! That reminds me of something! A suggestion was put out by someone (team Cain?) recently... I have switched computers and don’t have the email anymore. There was a drive to donate to food banks and to attach a flyer (which they had attached to an email). Does anyone have that?


66 posted on 11/14/2011 5:58:33 AM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: icwhatudo; 2ndDivisionVet; American Constitutionalist; AmericanInTokyo; Amos McCoy; babygene; ...

With Battleground poll included


Much like what the government does with unemployment statistics, the following chart represents a 4-poll "rolling average" for the latest 20+ polls listed at RealClearPolitics.com (plus recent weekly national polls from YouGov).

I also weighted the polls by their size. For example, a poll with a survey size of 1000 was weighted proportionately heavier than an 324 survey size.


Weighted 4-Poll Rolling Averages of the latest 20+ Polls listed at RCP [as of Nov 12th]
plus "YouGov" 11/8, 11/1, 10/25, 10/18 and 10/11 polls,
and Poll Position 11/8, and 11/1 polls inserted chronologically



(Example methodology for this chart is on my profile page)
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BTW: Real Clear Politics (of Chicago) cheated today, in order to keep ROMNEY in the lead!

When they added Battleground today, they eliminated Rasmussen from their averages, even though it clearly was taken within the last 14 days (their standard). If they had kept Rasmussen, Cain would have led their averages again (Cain +0.2).
RCP has violated their standards before, in the other direction, keeping Romney-favored polls up to 3 weeks at times in order to keep their blessed boy in the lead.

67 posted on 11/14/2011 6:06:24 AM PST by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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To: Future Useless Eater; All
OMG!! And the LSM, Fox included, were telling us how Cain was losing. In fact he's just proved what a great president and presidential candidate he would be by courageously surviving the most horrific, mendacious, scurrilous, groundless attack the LSM have ever aimed at any presidential candidate I know of in the last 50 years. Through it all he's shown tremendous courage and humor. Just try to find any other candidate in either party who could take that abuse and come out on top the way Herman has.
68 posted on 11/14/2011 6:17:05 AM PST by libstripper
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To: Future Useless Eater
"BTW: Real Clear Politics (of Chicago) cheated today, in order to keep ROMNEY in the lead!

When they added Battleground today, they eliminated Rasmussen from their averages, even though it clearly was taken within the last 14 days (their standard). If they had kept Rasmussen, Cain would have led their averages again (Cain +0.2).

RCP has violated their standards before, in the other direction, keeping Romney-favored polls up to 3 weeks at times in order to keep their blessed boy in the lead. "

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Nice find!

Did you also notice they list Romeny at the top of the polls even when he is behind?

Busted


Look how Romney is always listed at the top even when he is not getting the highest percentage.

Along with that BS national poll of 347 and the other of 102 (LOL) that show Romney in the lead...you should start a thread on all the tricks the MSM is using to prop up Romney.

69 posted on 11/14/2011 6:22:07 AM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: icwhatudo
you should start a thread on all the tricks the MSM is using to prop up Romney.

The press is made up of Kennedy loving wonks and Romney is just following the family tradition of wonkishness and kissing up to the Kennedys.

You should look into what George Romney did at HUD.

And I'm still mad at him for killing the Javelin.

70 posted on 11/14/2011 6:27:38 AM PST by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: icwhatudo; Admin Moderator
The title that you posted is misleading. The real title is:

Post-allegations, the Cain drain

71 posted on 11/14/2011 6:36:43 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Graybeard58; Chunga

Typo? Probably MR as in Mitt Romney


72 posted on 11/14/2011 6:41:09 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: icwhatudo
Politico changes headline of poll story from

"Cain leads GOP field in Battleground poll"

To:

"Post-allegations, the Cain drain"

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Here is the proof:

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Now the headline reads:


73 posted on 11/14/2011 6:45:43 AM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: Kaslin; Admin Moderator

Politico changed the headline! See my above post for proof.

(BUSTED! LOL)


74 posted on 11/14/2011 6:47:19 AM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: xzins; CainConservative; mylife; wmfights; P-Marlowe
There are conservatives in this race. From most to least conservative, I would rank them: Santorum/Bachmann, Gingrich/Perry/Cain, and Paul. Romney and Huntsman are not conservatives and should really be running in the democratic primary.

If we are going to rank them I believe the ranking should be as follows:

Small govt conservative Bachmann/Perry/Paul/Santorum.

Big govt conservative Gingrich.

Unknown Cain. His positions change so much and always need clarification it's really a gamble to believe he believes anything. Also, as recently as 2008 his wife voted in the Rat primaries.

Rats in Pub clothing Romney/Huntsman.

FWIW, I could vote for any of them except Romney/Huntsman & Cain I'm unsure. I'm sticking with Perry.

75 posted on 11/14/2011 6:57:43 AM PST by wmfights (PERRY 2012)
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To: wmfights

I have no problem with Perry.

Based on current data, he will not do well in debates with Obama.


76 posted on 11/14/2011 7:05:25 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: Kaslin

Nope. Karl Rove.


77 posted on 11/14/2011 9:50:59 AM PST by Chunga (What a load of codswallop!)
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To: Chunga

Yeah, I noticed later, when I read the other replies


78 posted on 11/14/2011 11:24:58 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: icwhatudo

The evening SeeBS news just announced Cain is done. Stick a fork in him. Bottoming out in the polls. Sex scandal! Sex scandal!

Sadly, most voters won’t look further than the alphabets and believe every lying word.


79 posted on 11/14/2011 4:12:05 PM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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