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Witness: Cain Accuser Reported 'Inappropriate' Touching (Bialek's Ex-Boyfriend Speaks Publicly)
ABC News ^ | 11/14/2011 | RANDY KREIDER

Posted on 11/14/2011 12:44:32 PM PST by SeekAndFind

A doctor who once dated Herman Cain accuser Sharon Bialek came forward today to say that he remembered Bialek telling him in 1997 that Cain had "touched her in an inappropriate manner," and that he was the one who urged her to contact lawyer Gloria Allred and go public with her accusation.

Dr. Victor Zuckerman of Shreveport, Louisiana, who appeared at a Monday afternoon press conference with attorney Gloria Allred, said he had decided to go public himself in order to rebut Herman Cain's public statement that he had no idea who Sharon Bialek was and couldn't recall ever meeting her. "I'm here to shed light on whether or not Herman Cain knows Sharon Bialek."

Four different women have accused the Republican presidential frontrunner of sexually harassing them while they worked at the National Restaurant Association. Karen Kraushaar and a second woman filed internal complaints with the trade group and received financial settlements. A third woman told the Associated Press she had considered filing a complaint against Cain but decided against because a coworker had already filed.

Cain has categorically denied all allegations of sexual harassment.

Bialek became the fourth accuser, and the first to go public, with a New York press conference on Nov. 7. She alleges Cain put his hand up her skirt, reached for her genitals and pulled her head toward his crotch. Bialek claims that when she resisted, he said, "You want a job, don't you?"

At the press conference, Gloria Allred flourished signed statements from two different men to whom Bialek had allegedly reported Cain's "inappropriate behavior" at the time. One of the men was described as a longtime friend and Chicago businessman, the other as a pediatrician Bialek was dating.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cain; gloriaallred; hermancain; sharonbialek
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To: Raebie

“The only thing that is clear is that this guy only owns one sport coat.”

And Cain only owns one color of tie. that drives me nuts. :)


51 posted on 11/14/2011 1:07:53 PM PST by Solaia (Ladies and gentlemen take my advice: pull down your pants and slide on the ice.)
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To: Raebie

Good catch!!!


52 posted on 11/14/2011 1:09:35 PM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Yooper4Life

All the repetition in the world doesn’t make something true.

What’s missing are facts. Without them, there are just allegations by self-interested parties.

Whom, incidentally, I wouldn’t give to the time of day.


53 posted on 11/14/2011 1:10:11 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

And Buyalick no doubt has thousands of “ex boyfriends” to draw on!


54 posted on 11/14/2011 1:10:14 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Charles Martel
This story is so hosed up the National Enquirer probably won't touch it... below their standards.

This guy is not a factual witness, at best, he is a character witness but with a record so bad that no one but a kool-aid drinking, Obama knee pad wearing, progressive would pay any attention. This is a sleazy story coming from sleazy sources and doesn't deserve more than a yawn. Someone needs to ask James Carville who he believes in this little “play”.

55 posted on 11/14/2011 1:10:46 PM PST by RedEyeJack
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To: goldstategop

Exactly my point.


56 posted on 11/14/2011 1:11:22 PM PST by Yooper4Life (They all lie.)
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To: bigdirty

Do you work in the MSM? Suspect you’re right on target.

Mr. Cain should, in my opinion, say nothing in response. If asked, just say that he’s already addressed these baseless false accusations and that he has nothing to add.

Rise above it.

Remember, Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals #1 is:

1. “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.”

and also:

13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. In conflict tactics there are certain rules that [should be regarded] as universalities. One is that the opposition must be singled out as the target and ‘frozen.’...

“...any target can always say, ‘Why do you center on me when there are others to blame as well?’ When your ‘freeze the target,’ you disregard these [rational but distracting] arguments.... Then, as you zero in and freeze your target and carry out your attack, all the ‘others’ come out of the woodwork very soon. They become visible by their support of the target...’

“One acts decisively only in the conviction that all the angels are on one side and all the devils on the other.” (pps.127-134)


57 posted on 11/14/2011 1:13:38 PM PST by bigbob
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To: bigbob

Cain should remain quiet, while behind the scenes, his attorney plans for the “Mother of all Defamation of Character Lawsuits.”


58 posted on 11/14/2011 1:14:54 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: bigbob

The best thing Cain can do is stay on message and ignore/disregard these allegations as much as possible. The MSM will attack him but every time he addresses them it gives the MSM more reason to keep them in the headlines. Ignoring/keeping on message makes it hardest for them keep it up.

That said, the MSM’s agenda is clear to support Obama and get Romney the nomination. They won’t stop until the primaries are over.


59 posted on 11/14/2011 1:17:18 PM PST by bigdirty
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To: dfwgator; All

Repeating:

“During the convention,” said Zuckerman, “Sharon indeed met and spent time with Mr. Cain. Mr Cain was the keynote speaker. Her job required that she be present at all functions. I remember Sharon saying that she and Mr. Cain had been at many of the same events. I also recall that at these events she was seated next to him at a lunch and at a dinner. She also told me she had the opportunity to speak with him at length with him in both cases.”

Uh wait. She stated that her boyfriend was with her at these events. It would appear that wasn’t the case based on his statement.


60 posted on 11/14/2011 1:19:40 PM PST by Raebie (WS)
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To: Raebie

Ahhh who needs facts, when there’s an agenda to push.


61 posted on 11/14/2011 1:20:33 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: Raebie

According to this guy her and Cain were very close. But according to her it was the boyfriend who suggested she contact Cain for a job.

First of all, why would she need him to suggest that?

Second, if this guy was such a successful business man why didn’t he help her find a job. Or better yet, GIVE her a job!


62 posted on 11/14/2011 1:20:43 PM PST by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a second party)
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To: SeekAndFind
So boy friend from fourteen years ago, her kid is 13, so this worn out old hoe was doing whoever wanted it. The fool at cbs was the kids dad, maybe, maybe not, maybe it was the chicago football team.
63 posted on 11/14/2011 1:21:09 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: wideawake
But the hairdresser has since learned to speak English, so she's double super credible.
64 posted on 11/14/2011 1:21:12 PM PST by IMR 4350
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To: SeekAndFind

So, let’s see. Hypothetically, a woman who sees the potential of a shake down of the NRA, cause she’s desperate for money, as part of the scheme confides in a friend of what she will later allege as part of the shakedown. Hmmmm.

The guy may very well be telling the truth of what he was told. However, it doesn’t lend any more credence as to whether the act was actually committed. He COULD simply be repeating the ruse reported by Bialek at the time. How would he know?

Bialek’s demeanor & the way this is being handled by Alred make this whole episode stink to high heaven.

Don’t give in Cain.


65 posted on 11/14/2011 1:22:12 PM PST by Confab
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To: Solaia
And Cain only owns one color of tie. that drives me nuts. :)

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Red ties make him very serious.


66 posted on 11/14/2011 1:22:18 PM PST by OwenKellogg (Herman Cain: Because everybody needs toucan stubs!)
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To: bigdirty

If Cain wins the nomination, I expect the MSM to carry forward with these attacks in the general election.

He’ll just have to live with it. He can’t change a biased press.


67 posted on 11/14/2011 1:22:27 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

That’s why these people need to pay for these slanderous attacks.


68 posted on 11/14/2011 1:24:39 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: Solaia
His campaign has got to find a way to put this junk to rest once and for all or he’ll never get back on message.

You are being either dishonest or stupid.

The leftists smear conservatives constantly.

Anyone who blames conservatives for this is either retarded or a liar.

69 posted on 11/14/2011 1:28:14 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: dfwgator

The other thing is this. It’s not that this guy says, I saw this, or I saw that. It’s not that he corroborates her story.

What’s bad is that he says WE MET CAIN. Cain says, I have no idea who she is. That’s a big disconnect. If Cain backpedals now and says something like, I guess I didn’t remember meeting her....

It’s like the old saying: Is there anything I need to know vs. is there anything I should know. I wonder what sort of conversations Cain has had with his advisors.


70 posted on 11/14/2011 1:28:14 PM PST by Solaia (Ladies and gentlemen take my advice: pull down your pants and slide on the ice.)
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To: bigdirty

You’re correct. This has so many holes that Cain’s best strategy going forward is to simply stay on message & ignore this. Absent a stained dress, the media can only perpetuate this for so long before the public will lose interest.


71 posted on 11/14/2011 1:28:47 PM PST by Confab
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To: SeekAndFind

Yawn.


72 posted on 11/14/2011 1:29:07 PM PST by Paperdoll (II like Herman Cain)
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To: bigbob
RE :"He says in his statement that he’s never had a malpractice suit or any legal action against him, he -— yada yada -— says that he once had a thriving medical practice in Bloomingdale IL but due to the crashing stock market and all kinds of other jazz, that he’s had to file Chapter 11 bankruptcy."

Your thoughts?

73 posted on 11/14/2011 1:30:20 PM PST by sickoflibs (Cain :"My parents didn't raise me to beg the government for other peoples money")
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To: bigdirty

EXACTLY!


74 posted on 11/14/2011 1:31:24 PM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: Solaia
What’s bad is that he says WE MET CAIN. Cain says, I have no idea who she is. That’s a big disconnect.

That's a big disconnect only insofar as it is reasonable to expect Herman Cain to remember every single person he ever met.

75 posted on 11/14/2011 1:31:27 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

Cain has to stay on message and by-pass the MSM. The rise of social media and blogs means one no longer as to rely on a hostile media to get one’s side of the story out. Cain will focus on the things that matter to Americans while the media is obsessed with his sex life. Let them - people don’t care about this stuff.


76 posted on 11/14/2011 1:31:52 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: bigdirty

Here are the tings I like best about Herman Cain:

1. He is not a politician

2. He doesn’t use the political vernacular, he speaks just like the people speaks

3. He is a born fixer with a tremendous record of pulling companies on the brink of bankruptcy out and putting them back in the prosperous category, bar none

4. He is as honest as the day is long in mid summer

5. He loves America and the American dream and wants everyone to realize that dream

6. He is brilliant, really a U.S. Navy Rocket scientist with multi university degrees, a winner in everything he has taken on.

7. He has the right toolbox to bring the U.S. back to prosperity,

8. he is a great delegater

9. can restore our position in the world, and the wealthy Constitutional Republic we once were.

10. He is a well rounded individual, caring and responsible

The Left hates him, and is using all the dirty tricks at their disposal to bring him down. The true conservative loves him. He is the finest, most experienced man of character running for the presidency, and I pray to God in Heaven that he wins because there was never so much at stake as now.


77 posted on 11/14/2011 1:33:53 PM PST by Paperdoll (II like Herman Cain)
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To: rogue yam

Not really. How many people do you recall meeting fifteen years ago?

Its possible Cain may have met Bialek in passing and thought nothing of it. Its not like they were close friends.


78 posted on 11/14/2011 1:34:11 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: rogue yam

What’s bad is that he says WE MET CAIN. Cain says, I have no idea who she is. That’s a big disconnect.

“That’s a big disconnect only insofar as it is reasonable to expect Herman Cain to remember every single person he ever met.”

Of course! But then he shouldn’t say - I don’t know who she is! He should have said then, that I have no recollection of ever meeting her. These guys have got to be careful when they speak. Every word they utter is disected. They should know that by now.


79 posted on 11/14/2011 1:34:22 PM PST by Solaia (Ladies and gentlemen take my advice: pull down your pants and slide on the ice.)
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To: Paperdoll

Hear hear!


80 posted on 11/14/2011 1:36:16 PM PST by Solaia (Ladies and gentlemen take my advice: pull down your pants and slide on the ice.)
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To: Solaia

You can meet someone but know nothing about them.

That is still a truthful statement. Unless they were close acquaintances for a long period of time, I don’t think Cain’s saying he doesn’t remember her would strike me as being strange.

I would have the same reaction. Is there any particular reason you want me to recall about someone who wasn’t even a friend of mine?

That’s exactly the point.


81 posted on 11/14/2011 1:38:19 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: dfwgator

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0nRy8G0bNY&feature=related


82 posted on 11/14/2011 1:41:21 PM PST by al baby (Is that old windbag still on the air ?)
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To: Solaia

I’m not one to parse words.

I leave that up for the lawyers. In every day situations, we don’t take notes about what happened to us.

In this case, let the sleeping dogs lie.


83 posted on 11/14/2011 1:41:28 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind
I'll bet it really chaps Buy-a-lick’s ass that she now has to share the grift with her dirtbag ex.
84 posted on 11/14/2011 1:41:54 PM PST by liberalh8ter
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To: SeekAndFind

How bout a little heresay here and there? Seems legal, right? Hey, I heard Obama smoked the pickle from that writer guy who was killed ‘accidentally’ this weekend....that seems legal, right?


85 posted on 11/14/2011 1:43:22 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Solaia
Of course! But then he shouldn’t say - I don’t know who she is! He should have said then, that I have no recollection of ever meeting her.

He doesn't know who she is because he has no recollection of meeting her. You are saying crazy things in order to criticize Mr. Cain.

86 posted on 11/14/2011 1:47:17 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: Gaffer

Nothing we heard today could be admitted to a court of law.

That’s the long and short of it. Bialek’s ex boyfriend doesn’t corroborate her story. At best he’s a character witness.

But his motives for coming forward are obscure.


87 posted on 11/14/2011 1:47:41 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
But his motives for coming forward are obscure.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

88 posted on 11/14/2011 1:49:30 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Paperdoll

It breaks my heart that such a good man is having his entire life and reputation he spent decades building, completely destroyed. And they’ll get away with it. I have no doubt they’ll keep this up until they sink him. And then Newt. Then they can paint Romney with every stereotype they have about big business & republicans being the party of big business & whatever else they’ve been saving for that occasion. Then 4 more years of 0bama. I pray Cain will overcome this but I’m just so jaded at this point I don’t believe he will.

Cindie


89 posted on 11/14/2011 1:49:56 PM PST by gardencatz (I'm lucky enough to live, walk & breathe among heroes! I am the mother of a US Marine!)
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To: Gaffer

RE: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Just curious as to how one gets $$ from this and how much...


90 posted on 11/14/2011 1:50:20 PM PST by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: rogue yam

He’s parsing. Its funny because the liberals accepted Clinton’s parsing about his felonies.

But they won’t accept a categorical denial from Herman Cain.

They are the last people on earth to lecture to others about ethics and the truth.


91 posted on 11/14/2011 1:50:43 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cain probably put his hand on her shoulder. The boyfriend thought that he and Bialek could turn that gesture into some real cash. Of course calling Gloria Allred is the first thing they thought of.


92 posted on 11/14/2011 1:50:44 PM PST by driftless2
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To: gardencatz

Hope this isn’t true. If it does happen the next target with baggage is Newt and his waning days as Speaker/Adulterer. Romney will go untouched.


93 posted on 11/14/2011 1:51:18 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: dfwgator

I agree. If he is innocent, he needs to sue her for defamation of character. Let her prove in a court of law that this happened or pay up.

Until we get down and dirty with these criminals, they won’t stop.

I am not a Cain supporter but this is ridiculous. On the other hand, Cain’s joking about these things doesn’t exactly help.


94 posted on 11/14/2011 1:51:44 PM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama has lots of ‘stash’.......


95 posted on 11/14/2011 1:52:20 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

I think Newt will handle things better. He’s been around it for a long time and has dealt with it in the past. We’ll see.


96 posted on 11/14/2011 1:53:33 PM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: Reagan69
He’s been around it for a long time and has dealt with it in the past.

He didn't seem to handle it particularly well.

97 posted on 11/14/2011 1:55:28 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: Reagan69

Then there’s the bimbo fatigue that is already setting in. The LSM has shot their load with Cain.


98 posted on 11/14/2011 1:55:46 PM PST by Raebie (WS)
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To: SeekAndFind

Its amazing how hard the RinoCracy is trying to arrange a Soviet-Politburo Election....with only “approved” (meaning ones they control) candidates on the ballot. If they worked as hard to clean out the cesspool in DC as they apparently do to keep the Palins and Cains out of town, we’d be in nowhere near the mess we now enjoy.

there must be some real bad stuff up there goin’ down...and they’re scared of We the People in Flyover Country getting anywhere near.

As long as Herman Cain is out in front...the media version of the Chinese Water Torture will be all over the news ...24/7...


99 posted on 11/14/2011 1:56:35 PM PST by mo
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To: Reagan69

Oh you mean his joke about Anita Hill? Clinton made jokes about the women he raped and liberals though that was hilarious!

But no one is permitted to make fun of Hill.


100 posted on 11/14/2011 1:57:09 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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