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Cain Supports Collective Bargaining for Public Unions?
Townhall ^ | 11-14-2011 | Kate Pavlich

Posted on 11/14/2011 6:58:25 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright

In an interview with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Herman Cain said he supports the "right" for public employees to bargain collectively. In other words, he is in favor of unions on the taxpayer dime. Cain also said federal workers have unions, meaning the right to collectively bargain, but they do not.

On the issue of collective bargaining, Cain said he supported the right of public employees to bargain collectively.

"But not collective hijacking. What I mean by that, if they have gotten so much for so many years and it's going to bankrupt the state, I don't think that's good. It appears that in some instances, they really don't care."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bargaincollectively; cain; cain4unions; collective; collectivebargaining; hermaincain; unions
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When I moderated The Florida Tea Party Convention debate 8 days ago, Newt, Santorum and Bachmann all came out explicitly against public sector unions - but Cain did not. I was disappointed then and remain so on this issue.
1 posted on 11/14/2011 6:58:28 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright

As we all know, the SEIU, et al, represent a big piece of the Fifth Column in this country. I am very surprised that Cain supports these Marxist extortionists if that is the reality here. His past business ties probably play a big role in this...(?)


2 posted on 11/14/2011 7:04:29 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Cain sounds a little waffly on this. Not good.


3 posted on 11/14/2011 7:05:56 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
The Townhall folks keep coming up with this thing that federal workers don't have the right to bargain through unions.

The Postal Reorganization Act gave collective bargaining rights to Postal Employee Unions.

Time for Townhall to get up to speed on the law.

4 posted on 11/14/2011 7:07:59 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I’m a Cain supporter, but this is seriously disturbing. This could be enough to make me switch my support to Newt, although I’m not that comfortable with Newt either.


5 posted on 11/14/2011 7:08:50 PM PST by Maceman (Obama: As American as nasei goreng)
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To: muawiyah

>> The Townhall folks keep coming up with this thing that federal workers don’t have the right to bargain through unions. >>

That may be true, but Townhall folks aren’t running for President. I don’t really care if they get it right or not. I am very concerned that the candidates on “our side” get it right however. And the right answer, as even FDR and George Meany would admit, is that public sector workers SHOULD NOT have the right to unionize.


6 posted on 11/14/2011 7:10:09 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

did he really say that?

Can we believe any of the media outlets?


7 posted on 11/14/2011 7:10:23 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Actually, I have to support the unions in this as well. My grandfather and his cohorts made a deal with FDR. They'd clean the Communist Party organizers out of the federal employee organizations and he'd recognize their unions.

They cleaned them out. He recognized them.

You must want theCommies back eh?!

You tricky devils never give up.

8 posted on 11/14/2011 7:10:31 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: GeronL

Watch the video...


9 posted on 11/14/2011 7:12:12 PM PST by TBBT
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To: muawiyah

With all due respect, WTH are you talking about? If you support public unions, you are on the wrong website.

Read and learn:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/02/end_public_sector_unionsperiod.html


10 posted on 11/14/2011 7:12:58 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Cain on unions:

He is against the Employee Free Choice act (forced unionization) - (www.hermancain.com/ “Issues” , May 21, 2011)

He is against Card Check - (Political column, THE New Voice, “Card Check Lies” , Feb 9, 2009)

He supported Scott Walker and spoke at the rally this year - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijx6ryJtvII

His empowerment zones are right to work only - http://www.redstate.com/laborunionreport/2011/10/20/union-bosses-unleash-on-herman-cain-for-targeting-unions-sacred-cows/


11 posted on 11/14/2011 7:13:33 PM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

He is also pro-Muslim


12 posted on 11/14/2011 7:13:40 PM PST by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: WriteOn

no he’s not.


13 posted on 11/14/2011 7:14:47 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: justsaynomore

I am aware of those positions. Very aware. But this is a strange position IMO.


14 posted on 11/14/2011 7:15:43 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

His empowerment zones bug me.
And his reliance on the “Super Committee”


15 posted on 11/14/2011 7:17:58 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
If you fail to distinguish between "right to strike" and "collective bargaining" you are not only on the wrong site, you are in the wrong country.

Roosevelt made a deal. You cited FDR as being against organization within public employee groups.

It's not that you lied about it ~ it's that times changed and real live Communists became a very real threat. The FBI couldn't get them out of the government agencies. Neither could the War Department or the Navy Department.

Non Communist federal employee union leaders came forward and did the job with fists, guns, harassment, intimidation, abuse ~ it was a regular war ~ and you want to turn your back on the deal?

You're nuts ~ you'll get Commies back in the government ~ they'll make the goons and thugs at SEIU look like pussy cats.

Anti-Communism is still an FR option the last time I looked.

16 posted on 11/14/2011 7:18:13 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: C. Edmund Wright
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17 posted on 11/14/2011 7:18:29 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: mylife

I don’t like the empowerment zones particularly, but I like 999 overall. And I think you’re mistaken on his stance on the super committee..


18 posted on 11/14/2011 7:19:23 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: muawiyah

I find your analysis insane and your connection of dots fanciful at best and absurd at worst.

FDR was philosophically against public sector unions for the same reason any sane person would be - that it puts the public servants in a position of negotiating AGAINST the tax payer which is simply an unsustainable and ludicrous position.

The idea that getting rid of public sector unions would strengthen communist influence on our government is one of the most ridiculous positions I’ve ever seen on FR.


19 posted on 11/14/2011 7:22:19 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
You don't know your Commies. The fact you are against worrying about that aspect of our history is highly disturbing. Maybe you do know your Commies.

You had probably best straighten out your thinking here. Joe McCarthy was not wrong.

20 posted on 11/14/2011 7:24:38 PM PST by muawiyah
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